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Mesmer in Need · Jun 29, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by king hidalgo

a virus cannot make a motherboard get fried, that can only be done by electricity. Also a virus cannot make your hardrive explode or do any nature with hardware.

ok, but cant your motherboard be overloaded so much that it just stops working?

about ventrillo, i used it several times, but i dont have the server information anymore and i havent been on it for a while. i dont know if it can still load me with viuses and such, but i probably will uninstall it. p.s. i got the free version off the internet.

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

have you considered that your motherboard was faulty/cheap crap..

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Mesmer in Need · Jun 29, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

well i got a manufactured computer form best buy, and i only installed a new graphics card inside the case, but i think my mobo was faulty from the beginning.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 29, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

by the way, this thread is not about whether a virus can do anything to your mobo, but wherther you can get a virus from gw

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

nah..like all the other posts stated its not possible

the mobo frying is due to human error/faulty or w/e

u could just email GW support...or ask gaile to look into it, bet they both coe back negative

lord_shar · Jun 29, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by awesome sauce

What about TS or Ventrilo... if he's using those along with GW isn't it possible that his computer could get infected through them?

From what I've heard, it is possible to get infected from any peer to peer VoiP software, especially if the host server is privately maintained as opposed to a centrallized set-up like Skype. Hackers hosting such boxes can easily upload spyware if you don't restrict port traffic through a hardware firewall. Older software firewalls were vunerable to buffer overrun attacks, but I don't know how more current versions addressed this vunerability.

If you want to play it safe, Skype is a good bet (assuming you download the client from www.skype.com and no where else).

quanzong · Jun 29, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06

So then, if you were using TS/vent you could get a virus, which I highly doubt you were using because if you played GW for a long time, I'm sure your dad wont think its the problem.

But still, motherboard being fried has nothing to do with viruses, just electricity, water, rust, and other harmful realtime things.

I never tried this before, but if you spill water on your hardrive while its on, the water could probably soak in and somehow effect your hardware.

I love coffee · Jun 29, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

just reformat ur comp, so u don't have to worry aobut virus that can't b detect by ur AV.

also maybe your motherboard is not compatiable with your power supply

Stockholm · Jun 29, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Overheating due to the graphics in GW is the only thing I can see happen, but it would fry the CPU not the motherboard.

kvndoom · Jun 29, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

You guys missed 2 very important letters in his first post:

HP

So how much quality can we really expect from a Hewlett Packard power supply? I groan in pain... I wouldn't be surprised if the power supply is faulty and putting your system under full load by playing Guild Wars is causing voltage irregularities which are zapping the motherboard. Face it, most brand name store-bought computers are built with bottom-of-the-barrel parts whenever possible, and power supplies are one of the key areas where they skimp. Putting a solid PSU in a computer can raise its price by 50-100$, which eats heavily into the fairly slim profit margins retail shops have.

So more than likely HP replaced the motherboard, but faulty power will continue to cause problems if it's a bad power supply. If it's possible for you to replace the PSU yourself (depending on if it's proprietary or not), I would suggest that, otherwise your real problem may never get fixed.

And no, Guild Wars did not upload a virus that fried your computer. Puh-leeeeez.

Poison Ivy · Jun 29, 2006, 10:07 AM // 10:07

It's a virus pops, stop your son from playing if you won't want your mother fried again.

Aera · Jun 29, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

You cannot get a virus from playing Guild Wars.
As stated many times, it's all serverside, so it has to be Anet giving everyone virusses...and I don't think they'd like to lose their 2 mil players

erick5876 · Jun 29, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

You guys missed 2 very important letters in his first post:

HP

There's your answer.

There is no way to get a virus from guild wars. Your problem most likely has absolutely nothing to do with a virus. Simply put: you bought a POS from a crappy company that puts out; shall we say, less than quality equipment.

Yes, the printers suck too. I fix them on a daily basis at work.

Vecte · Jun 29, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

i think i am almost 100% sure i know what your problem is.

you said you installed a new video card in a manufactured comps. well, i found out recently that manufactured comps have extremely crappy power supplies, most likely its a 300watt. chances are, when you run guild wars, the video card you put it kicks in, and starts running. now, there are 2 ways a video card gets power, one; through your motherboard, or two; directly from the power supply. chances are, you are not running number two. the only type of cards that run directly from the power supply are extremely expensive, and have very high bench marks. So, unless you bought like an ATi Radeon X1800 or higher, you arn't running directly from the power supply. I am thinking that your video card is getting its power through the mobo(if all you did is plugged the video card into the mobo and shut the case, you are running through mobo. if you had to hook some cables up to the video card after plugging it in, you are running from the power supply). Now, having a crappy motherboard, which about 99% of all manufactured mobos are, is going to give you problems. when you video card is kicking in, it may need a good bit of power, which is probably overloading the mobo because of the low watts from the power supply. (none of this probably makes since, lol.)

ok, you say you sent in the motherboard to get it repaired? if you sent it in to get repaired, then it is not fried. if it were fried, it would be in the dumpster. chances are you have a crappy mobo. if i were you, i would just replace the mobo and power supply, if you plan to continue to use the machine. you already voided any warranty you had on it by putting the video card in there, so you have no worries changing anything else out. for the power supply, i would look at some nice 500 watt power supplies, and don't skimp on a power supply, pay some money for it, i learned this form these forums.

as for viruses, even if you do have a virus on your system, there is no way that it can effect any piece of hardware. any and everything a virus can effect is system side only.

i laugh at any and every person who thinks that online games give you viruses. THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY A SERVER SIDE GAME CAN GIVE YOU A VIRUS!!!!!!!!!! Guild Wars is ran by arenanet, which they run from their own servers. in order for you to get a virus from guild wars, you would have to receive it from a file that was sent by the server directly to your machine, and it would have to be something that you initiated. There is no way a virus can infect on of the arena net servers, unless they themselves put one on there, which we all know would never happen. As for people hacking a duping items with third party programs, that is impossible. In order for them to legitamitly duplicate an item with a third party program, they would need specific server info, because all items within guild wars are managed in, you guessed it, the anet servers. Now, there may have been bugs or certain parameters that can cause a glitch that would make a person be able to duplicate an item, but other than that there is no other way. The only time that the arena net servers receive information is the information that you enter in when you register your game and when you log in. other than that, there is no other way the arena net servers can receive information from the user. so the possibility of getting a virus from guild wars is, impossible. like i said before, even if you did have a virus, it would not be effecting the hardware of your computer, only the system. a simple reformat of your harddrive would elminate any virus you may have.

May knowledge of hardware is fairly high, but I have never directly dealt with it until recently. Of course, there are still a lot of things I may not know. I work with computers constantly, Monday-Thursday 12 hours + eachday. I also work in a computer data center on Saturdays and Sundays, 12 hour shifts each day. I constantly handle similer situations were people think that viruses are the cause of their problems, and not once has it been.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 29, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

ok i didnt even bother to read that entire last post. Anyways, i sent in my whole computer to hp. I dont know what they did to my computer all i care that it works. on the paper they reterned it with they said they replaced a
A8AE-LE(AMBERINEM-GL6E)/HP
wtf does that mean? I know hp has crappy stuff (now not when i bought it) but it works fine now. Either i had a bad mnobo from the start, or it was my power supply overloading. My video card does run off the mobo, nothing else. I am runnign about a 10$ (or something like that) serge protector/ power strip.
Remember though. we are discussing whether or not you can get a virus from gw. not my computer problems

Vecte · Jun 29, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vecte

i laugh at any and every person who thinks that online games give you viruses. THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY A SERVER SIDE GAME CAN GIVE YOU A VIRUS!!!!!!!!!! Guild Wars is ran by arenanet, which they run from their own servers. in order for you to get a virus from guild wars, you would have to receive it from a file that was sent by the server directly to your machine, and it would have to be something that you initiated. There is no way a virus can infect on of the arena net servers, unless they themselves put one on there, which we all know would never happen. As for people hacking a duping items with third party programs, that is impossible. In order for them to legitamitly duplicate an item with a third party program, they would need specific server info, because all items within guild wars are managed in, you guessed it, the anet servers. Now, there may have been bugs or certain parameters that can cause a glitch that would make a person be able to duplicate an item, but other than that there is no other way. The only time that the arena net servers receive information is the information that you enter in when you register your game and when you log in. other than that, there is no other way the arena net servers can receive information from the user. so the possibility of getting a virus from guild wars is, impossible. like i said before, even if you did have a virus, it would not be effecting the hardware of your computer, only the system. a simple reformat of your harddrive would elminate any virus you may have.

^read pls.

That is a socket 939 mobo made by asus for manufacturers that they replaced. it is a cheaply made one as well, i have had experience with one, very disappointing coming from asus.

as for surge protectors, don't go above and beyond spending on one. make sure it protects with 2500 joules or higher(it will say on package). they still don't garuntee protection either. my sister used a 3000 joule monster surge protector, during a storm she lost her router, modem, and digital phone. just be safe and stilll go with 2500 joules or higher.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 30, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

about the surge protector. my router keeps losing connectivity and i have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it connected again. it di completely wired, and the software is correctly installed. but it isnt on a surger protector. could a mini surge be able to make it lose connectivity, but not fry it?
also, couldent a group of dedicated, experienced hackers who know about the anet servers hack into one and send out a virus out if they tried?

Stockholm · Jun 30, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

First
If you keep losing connectivety, yes a surge protector can be the solution.

Second
There is Viruses that do effect the hardwere, they can infeect the boot sector or FLASH the Bios.

Third
Make sure you have a 450 Watt powersupply if you are installing new graphics card on a namebrand computer

Yobz · Jun 30, 2006, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Infecting the boot sector is not infecting the HARDWARE, it is infecting the boot code (eg MBR at sector 0, and Boot Sect at 63 on your HDD).

The CIH or Chernobyl virus was able to write to your programmable flash bios if :
1. It was NOT set to write protect
2. You were running windows 9x based system (win NT based were not affected).

quanzong · Jun 30, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Whoever said that a SERIOUS HACKER can hack some item in GW is impossible, I think your wrong, because you can do anything you can think of in the PC world, if you want to hack ANET and make all there tribal blades have trojan horse on it, you can, but you have to be really good at hacking, if you dont want to be fined for 5 BILLION US DOLLARS that is. For ruining everyones machine who came across a tribal blade. I wonder if ANET has counterhackers. But ANET could easily fix the problem if it occured by running nortan antivirus. However I highly doubt any hacker would hack ANET just to do that, because you dont get anything out of that, you could only loose something.

yep what everyone says could be true, your power supply might have very bad watts. If you dont know how to fix computers, or no one you know, knows how to fix them, I would hire a computer technician to do it so they can put a new power supply it, because adding power supplies in the wrong way can be VERY EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.