Curse

Mesmer in Need · Jun 28, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Allright. First of all, my computer has gotten its motherboard fried twice, and sent into hp for repaires. My dad is convinced it is from a vrius from guild wars. My antivirus was up-to-date, and i have heard you cant get a virus from mmo's. To put my dad to rest, i want knowlegable people to say that you are sure you cant. when i have enough responses i want to show this thread to my dad and put him to rest. Please just say one thing- you cant get a virus from guild wars. please no idiots, profanity, or other random stuff.

Malice Black · Jun 28, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

GW is server based..to get a virus from GW means anets servers are infected..wont happen..they would detect anything in that nature and deal with it swiftly

remember anti-virus programs are good but not bullet proof...i run 2

sweep with 1 then sweep again with 2 then run spybot search and destroy

Hockster · Jun 28, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

You can not get a virus, or anything else, by playing Guild Wars.

You can get infected by any number of things if you ever download any sort or hack/cheat/item duper from cheat/hack sites, or often from sites that claim to sell gold. Most of the programs they have you install are nothing more than keyloggers used to steal your GW accounts, and possibly any online banking information you use.

If your mobo was fried, I suspect you have a power issue in the house. Make sure you're using a decent surge protector. Preferable one not from the dollar store.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

remember anti-virus programs are good but not bullet proof...i run 2

Running two AV apps is a very bad idea. Generally they conflict with each other causing numerous false flags or worse, missing something completely. If anything is suspect use an online scanner as well.

Alias_X · Jun 28, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Guild Wars isn't the cause of a virus that "fried" your motherboard, but if Guild Wars overheating your comp or your PSU got stressed, it could fry your motherboard.

Guild Wars cannot give you a virus.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 28, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

well im not really sure if my mobo was fried but i think my computer had problems from the start.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 28, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

come on people more posts!

Loviatar · Jun 28, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

a virus cant fry a mobo period.

GW is a closed system and is kept virus free so look elsewhere

Vahn Roi · Jun 28, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Sounds like your father doesn't like you hogging up the computer playing GW ;]

A virus cannot fry your Mobo or any other part of your computer (yet)

MelechRic · Jun 28, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

If your system is experiencing issues then you should do the following:

1. Run a reputable virus checker and verify you're not infected.
2. Run a reputable spy-ware/ad-ware remover and follow it's recommendations.
3. Clean the inside of your system. Get some dust-off and blow out all the fans, heatsinks, ports etc. (Do this outside of course.) Remove any fan filters and wash them thoroughly.
4. Remove all cheats/hacks for games like GW. You realize they are full of malware right?
5. Remove all "free" screensavers, download accelerators and other utilities. Most are harmless, some are malware and others just clog your registry.
6. If your motherboard supports it then download and install a temperature monitor software. (Usually modern motherboards ship with their own version of this.) When you play a high CPU demand game like GW check and see if your CPU's core and case temperatures climb dramatically. If so then you need better internal cooling for your case and probably a heatsink upgrade.
7. Check your memory with a utility like Memtest86. Bad memory can cause system instability and hard crashes. What appears to be a mobo problem can often be a bad memory module that prevents booting.

If you don't find any of these problems then you may want to do a clean install of Windows.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 28, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

for the above two, me and my dad have seperate computers. i do know of a virus that can overload your computer, but oi dont think that counts as fying.
i do not have or ever did have any gw moding, duping, or calculating devices installed, and i have done yahoo antivirus and spyware scans. I will try cleaning out my sytem. thanks.

Please keep posting

MelechRic · Jun 28, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Sounds like your father doesn't like you hogging up the computer playing GW ;]

A virus cannot fry your Mobo or any other part of your computer (yet)

There have been virii (Chernobyl) that will write directly to the BIOS and basically flash it blank. At that point your Mobo is hosed (not really fried). If your mobo doesn't have a backup image of the BIOS or the BIOS chip isn't socketed then you might as well put your mobo in the trash.

Fortunately most modern mobo have read only backup images of the BIOS on the board and also are socketed.

MelechRic · Jun 28, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

for the above two, me and my dad have seperate computers. i do know of a virus that can overload your computer, but oi dont think that counts as fying.
i do not have or ever did have any gw moding, duping, or calculating devices installed, and i have done yahoo antivirus and spyware scans. I will try cleaning out my sytem. thanks.

Please keep posting

I recommend these utilities:

1. AVG Anti Virus
2. Ad-Aware SE
3. Spybot Search and Destroy
4. Kerio Personal Firewall (free version)

If you don't know much about firewalls then don't bother with Kerio. Just make sure you have the windows XP firewall enabled.

EDIT: Lastly I want to emphasize that computer health is a lot like your personal health. If you have bad hygiene then you will have bad health. The same goes for a computer. It needs regular cleaning (physical and operating system).

The other thing I forgot to mention was that you should stop using Internet Explorer. It's just too big a security hole. I'd recommend Firefox until Microsoft delivers its first non-beta version of IE7. (Personally, I'll never use IE as long as Firefox is around.)

king hidalgo · Jun 28, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

lol first i dont no ote about virouses however all you tech guys helping this person i need help to everytime i play guildwars my comp crashes is it guildwars related or just my pc also guildwars alwasy has erorrs that life im sure that guildwars isnt giving u virouses unless you have to turn of your protection while you use it !! theres actualy a proper thread for this isnt there like a guildwars TECH guy i remmber reading it he was rather obbsesive talking about doing more computer clases in a week than other people do in a life time it made me chuckle ask that guy, he seemed to be the bees knees as it was,

also does anyone no the price of a rotwing recurver i no this is the wrong post place but u no when in rome!! so if you no how much a rotwing recurver is please messsage me on factions the name is shadow ranger nick

also mesmer i hope you get your comp fixed and put your dads mind at rest goodluck with it!!

quanzong · Jun 28, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I believe you can get a virus by a SERIOUS hacker, because if someone hacks some item, and gives it to you and its in your inventory it might infect your computer. However a virus only hurts your software and not your hardware, a virus cannot make a motherboard get fried, that can only be done by electricity. Also a virus cannot make your hardrive explode or do any nature with hardware.

So the virus is not the problem with your motherboard being fried, however there are ways to get viruses in Guild Wars, theres a way to do ANYTHING you can think of on computers, also ways to protect them too. I have a strong belief that some firewall companies, also make viruses, and only have protect agaisnt those viruses with there firewall, so you use theres and not nortan or bull guard.

Only way to make sure you have no viruses and keep it like that is to wipe drive your machine, and then install everything, then dont go online. However going online is what a computer is mainly used for lol.

Loviatar · Jun 28, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

I believe you can get a virus by a SERIOUS hacker, because if someone hacks some item, and gives it to you and its in your inventory it might infect your computer. .

WRONG

everything is SERVER SIDE not CLIENT SIDE they cant get anything into the game to give you that isnt there already

sheeeshh

king hidalgo · Jun 28, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

a virus cannot make a motherboard get fried, that can only be done by electricity. Also a virus cannot make your hardrive explode or do any nature with hardware.

yeah i was thinking that nothing you receive onto your computer via the internet or some removable storage device inputed on your computer can damage conponents in your pc this is psyicaly imposible unless you ment something else by its fired 2 mother boards virouses infect files and fuger up your software saved files etc however ive neva heard of a self destructing virous that harms the pc itself

again goodluck with your problems

chessyang · Jun 28, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

I believe you can get a virus by a SERIOUS hacker, because if someone hacks some item,

good thing you said "believe" because that's impossible.

To the OP's Dad No GW does not give virus or get infected by playing GW As for your mobo getting fired. I think most of the people here had comment about it. and Snap if you live in Pennsylvania (well central PA that is) i'll take a look at your computer for free and consult you and your dad if needed.

EternalTempest · Jun 28, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

The GuildWars Server checks the GW client (installed on your computer) constantly for any signs of tampering.. otherwise you would not be able to connect.

Not only that GW is one of the most robust anti-hack sever/client I've seen in games.

Games by nature are more depmanding on computer resources, memory, disk space, power (video card kicking in to high gear to render 3d), etc. If there is a hardware or software problem, it was already there.. just when any application starts using the pc to it's fullest (such as games) it's more likely to show up or show up more frequently.

Windows being "unstable" can be be caused via bad hardware drivers, ad-ware, software glitches (any), or if you start having hardware failure such has hard drive failing, bad memory adderss (Ram), or power supply starting to go out.

Software does NOT affect hardware (to cause failure).

awesome sauce · Jun 28, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

What about TS or Ventrilo... if he's using those along with GW isn't it possible that his computer could get infected through them?

MelechRic · Jun 29, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Bleh... I recant.