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Beomagi · Sep 26, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Ghozer

as for that, why is everyone comparing to the FX-62?? thats not what I was comparing too :\

people compare the e6600 to the fx 62, because the e6600 is the base level conroe - the midlevel cpu for intel. The fx-62 is amd's current fastest, and far more expensive.

B Ephekt · Sep 26, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Using any level of RAID on a home system is a stupid idea, as you only exponentially increase your chances of data loss. If you're going for speed just opt for a 10k drive, if you're going for data protection just go with a backup solution (external drive, network drive, etc).

And lol at X-Fi Fatality111 crap. If you want a true Audiophile quality card, without all the overpriced gaming-nerd-hype bullshit, go for an M-Audio 5.1 or 7.1 card.

Yanman.be · Sep 26, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

You people are speaking chinese to me. I need money to buy a new pc, that's all I know!

Ikari · Sep 26, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

To be quite frank, I'm in serious need of a new computer, within a $1000 - $2000 price range. I'm far too lazy to make it myelf, but I'd like it to be able to run Vista + DX10. Do you guys have any recommandations as far as companies go, or should I save myself the trouble and just get it built by a local computer store?

Sentao Nugra · Sep 26, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Ikari

but I'd like it to be able to run Vista + DX10.

a) Any mainstream (even Dell) machine will be able to "run" Vista.
b) NOTHING, as of now (on the retail market) will be able to run Dx10

Aman · Sep 26, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

what's up with directx10?

what the hell will it do that nothing can run it?

moriz · Sep 26, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

i hope it's just a driver issue. but i'm really not sure.

my geforce fx5500 pci's architecture might simply be too old to fully use dx10 no matter what driver i feed it.

Bane of Worlds · Sep 27, 2006, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by Aman

what's up with directx10?

what the hell will it do that nothing can run it?

I believe it's how the new directx10 uses it's shaders which might explain why all computers currently except the ones in Microsoft's HQ can't run directx10.

it's somewhere around here so go for it

Ghozer · Sep 27, 2006, 12:58 PM // 12:58

its the new technology known as the Geometry Shader, it can apply a shader or light effect to a group of polygons or triangles (any that are linked) as apposed to pixel per pixel, or poly per poly, Another part of the Geometry Shader is the Stream Out functionality that allows the GPU to recycle graphics data without needing the CPU which should greatly increse the speed of games...

its all API based, so even a DirectX 9 Card should beable to do it as they are making a D3D9Ex which is DirectX10 compliant...

it will also be possible to install new gfx drivers without rebooting, and perform 'video card-only' reboots by isolating the display driver from the rest of the system

Aman · Sep 28, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

how much will the new graphic cards cost( the ones that will run directx10)?

TreeDude · Sep 28, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

There will be DX10 cards in all price ranges. It's the power of the card that will be the difference.

EternalTempest · Sep 28, 2006, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Notice how since Creative Labs has a strangle hold on the gamming market where not talking about "Next Gen" audio...

Creative hasn't been that innovative other then "expanding" the current EAX since Aureal's A3D (R.I.P) which sounded way better then EAX

use to compete with them.

Example when audio was going through a revolution you had: Sensaura, EAX, DirectSound, and A3D. All different new next gen audio api's.

Now look at it:

Sensaura - (Now a division of Creative Labs)
A3D - (Technology bought out and owned by Creative Labs)
MS DirectSound - Old and EAX out did it

There are much better audio cards out there but there not targeted at gammers or pushing gamming any. The only time creative wants to keep there software and drivers up to date is when there being yelled at or they have some sort of competion or 6-9 months go by

Aman · Sep 29, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

say i have a dual 510 mb graphic card- sli for 500

how much the dirext10 would be?

Omega X · Sep 30, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by B Ephekt

Using any level of RAID on a home system is a stupid idea, as you only exponentially increase your chances of data loss.

A lot of people would tend to disagree with that one.

TreeDude · Sep 30, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Aman, no DX10 cards have been released. We only know that ATI and Nvidia are working on them. No models or specs have surfaced. So your guess is as good as anyone elses. Also, the RAM on a card is not the most important thing. They have 7200s with 512mb of RAM and 7800s with it. Which do you thing is better? No point in 512mb of video RAM if the card isn't even fast enough to use it.

Aman · Sep 30, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

i hope they new cards come out by next year.

B Ephekt · Sep 30, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Omega X

A lot of people would tend to disagree with that one.

RAID is wonderful in a business environment, when it's set up with the proper hardware and maintained by people who know what they're doing. Your average self proclaimed computer guy is going to set it up with regular drives, on an on-board or software-based controller, after reading a guide off the internet, then cry when his array dies and he loses everything. I've run RAID at home before, it's more of a hassle than it's really worth when you consider the costs of setting it up correctly and maintaining it.

awesome sauce · Oct 01, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09

When are physx cards gonna be cheap?

cookiemonkie · Oct 01, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by B Ephekt

RAID is wonderful in a business environment, when it's set up with the proper hardware and maintained by people who know what they're doing. Your average self proclaimed computer guy is going to set it up with regular drives, on an on-board or software-based controller, after reading a guide off the internet, then cry when his array dies and he loses everything. I've run RAID at home before, it's more of a hassle than it's really worth when you consider the costs of setting it up correctly and maintaining it.

Maintain what exactly? You have your HD / Raid controller, OS drivers and thats it. All you need is for home is two identical high capacity HD's. Create a raid array, assign the two hard drives and set the RAID level to disc mirroring and install your operating system. When it fails all you have to do is replace the faulty drive go into the controller bios and have it replicate the working drive. Again, what the heck do you need to maintain and why would you run anything beyond disc mirroring on a home system?

B Ephekt · Oct 01, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by cookiemonkie

Maintain what exactly? You have your HD / Raid controller, OS drivers and thats it. All you need is for home is two identical high capacity HD's. Create a raid array, assign the two hard drives and set the RAID level to disc mirroring and install your operating system. When it fails all you have to do is replace the faulty drive go into the controller bios and have it replicate the working drive. Again, what the heck do you need to maintain and

You do know that arrays die due to software issues, right? 9 out of 10 times when an array dies it's due to the software, not a physical drive failure, and the crappy software on-board controllers most people use are notorious for failing during a power loss, etc. Unless you're spending a few hundred on proper controller cards, you will have maintenence, because software RAID is largely shit.

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why would you run anything beyond disc mirroring on a home system?

In case you haven't read the thread, RAID 5 was suggested. RAID 1 is still a waste, since most people use it as a form of backup which it's not, and the speeds are pretty bad compared to 10kRPM or Perpendicular Recording drives.