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Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Post anything interesting, cool etc. about next gen products here. I know i made a this same thread yesterday, but it was closed down. I guess i didn't really say it was for discussion too. Anyhow, post any updates and all the stuff here.

To start the thread..

Post what you think is the coolest feature in any of the next gen products.

awesome sauce · Sep 24, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Anyone know how much memory vista will use up?

Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

* A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
* 512 MB of system memory.
* A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 24, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

A little more detail: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win.../vistarpc.mspx

I personally suggest something above that minimum however; Vista is coolest if you have all the neat visuals and effects.

I guess that's my vote - new Vista visuals. It's definately not *the* best and coolest thing about Vista, but it's the first thing that a person sees that makes you think, "Toto, we're not in XP anymore."

If you're curious about your current machine, you can run the upgrade advisior (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...r/default.mspx) and get an idea of what will work and what won't.

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 24, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Oh, and coolest feature in other things... I went looking last night at 64-bit dual-core procs the other night, and all I can say is :: grabby ::. The new procs out look like they are going to kick serious butt.

Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

i heard intel's new core duo extreme 2.9 ghx processors.

What eaxctly is it?

like 2 procesors or something?

and are there any better ones coming out anytime soon?

Ghozer · Sep 24, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

im already running an AMD 64, X2 (dual core) on Windows Vista x64 - RC1 - and i must say, its quick

Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

i heard intel's got the best processor, at the moment.

Wrath Of Dragons · Sep 24, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aman

i heard intel's new core duo extreme 2.9 ghx processors.

What eaxctly is it?

like 2 procesors or something?

and are there any better ones coming out anytime soon?

those just came out like a month ago, so if anyone does anything "new", it will be AMD but nothing soon im fairly sure

Ghozer · Sep 24, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aman

i heard intel's got the best processor, at the moment.

seems you need to get a new source of information

bizarresk · Sep 24, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Intel DOES have the fastest processors at the moment. Core 2 Duo, no chance for AMD

Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Yeah you should check your source. :\

Bane of Worlds · Sep 24, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55

the fastest processor speed in terms of Ghz doesn't matter if the structure of the processor is inefficient which is why AMD processors performs better in most critical operations despite the lower processor speed compared to Intel's chips.

I would say for the gamers, they should go for the premium edition of Vista or the Ultimate if you want the best.

iliketoeat · Sep 24, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

um, u guys do realize that the $400 core 2 duo kicks the shit out of the FX-62, right?

Ghozer · Sep 24, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

the FX-62 isnt the best CPU, no, but you also have to take into account the memory bandwidth and various things,
get an AMD X2 4800+ on an M2 Chipset with DDR2 633Mhz or whatever it is...
and get an Intel Core Duo with the same ram, the AMD will give better performance over the majority of applications and games...

Omega X · Sep 24, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by iliketoeat

um, u guys do realize that the $400 core 2 duo kicks the shit out of the FX-62, right?

Yes, at the moment Core 2 Duo has the edge. But its not much of an edge. Right now it all boils down to price for performance.

And watch your language.

Serafita Kayin · Sep 24, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Ghozer, I wish that were still true.

An E6300 will tear hell on an FX-62 now. They dropped the NetBurst architecture, raised IPC, and threw a huge monkey wrench in the works by tacking on 4MB of L2 cache, shared between the cores dynamically with no performance hit. It's a gamer's wet dream, and an overclocker's as well, as these will often hit 4 GHz with little extra cooling. The trick AMD has now is pricing, but the K8L will be hitting soon, and it's got some fun features as well...

BTW, if that's not enough for you, Intel's Core 2 Quadro is out in November. 4 cores. Yah.

Gimme a sec to get the house clean and settled, and I'll tell you all I can that's not under NDA...

Aman · Sep 24, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Sweet with my new comp im getting a 4gb l2 cache ram

and this one kid next door says his sony will be better than my alienware

He has 256mb graphic card to run guild wars and that's all

and i have dual 500 something mb graphic card with SLI

all he is saying is i got free upgrades ohh i got free upgrades..

He says that they got a thing that gives them free upgrades for 3 years which id no't believe..

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 24, 2006, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghozer

im already running an AMD 64, X2 (dual core) on Windows Vista x64 - RC1 - and i must say, its quick

We're thinking of running Ultimate with a setup along these lines; what we're aiming for is a killer media center system that can have a healthy dose of gaming on the big TV.

Ghozer · Sep 24, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serafita Kayin

Ghozer, I wish that were still true.

An E6300 will tear hell on an FX-62 now. They dropped the NetBurst architecture, raised IPC, and threw a huge monkey wrench in the works by tacking on 4MB of L2 cache, shared between the cores dynamically with no performance hit. It's a gamer's wet dream, and an overclocker's as well, as these will often hit 4 GHz with little extra cooling. The trick AMD has now is pricing, but the K8L will be hitting soon, and it's got some fun features as well...

BTW, if that's not enough for you, Intel's Core 2 Quadro is out in November. 4 cores. Yah.

Gimme a sec to get the house clean and settled, and I'll tell you all I can that's not under NDA...

i wasnt comparing an FX-62, I was comparing the latest AM2 architecture AMD to the latest Core Duo, AMD are also bringing out a Quad Core, and on-board GPU towards mid 2007 any ways cause of thier partnership with ATI