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darksiege · Jan 13, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51

I think Guild Wars was designed to favor ATi cards, thus Nvidia ones have lower performance. Nvidia drivers are also to blame.

Sentao Nugra · Jan 13, 2007, 05:38 AM // 05:38

AF: Anisotropic Filtering

If you are using the NVidia display utility, switch the view to classic and reload the utility. Then on the side panel, go to 'Performance & Quality Settings.' From there, click 'Add Profile' and point it the GW.exe in your explore window. Then on the bottom where you see it start with 'Global Driver Settings,' go to Advanced Settings on the drop down. Then click all options, and then tick the box that says 'Application controlled.' Make sure you do this with all options!!! Apply your new settings, click OK, and restart your computer. Then fire up GW and hopefully enjoy your enhanced framerates.

darksiege · Jan 14, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27

BTW, how do you turn on AF in GW? Force it using Nvidia utility?

Sentao Nugra · Jan 14, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksiege

BTW, how do you turn on AF in GW? Force it using Nvidia utility?

Yes, but for some reason whenever I made a forced change to the graphics in GW my frames cut in half...

darksiege · Jan 14, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra

Yes, but for some reason whenever I made a forced change to the graphics in GW my frames cut in half...

I turned on 16x AF using the utility and my FPS is the same..

Sentao Nugra · Jan 14, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Apply settings and restart computer makes the settings click in, if you did that there might be something funky on my end (which I wouldn't doubt seeing as people can read frames at 100+ O.o)

darksiege · Jan 14, 2007, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Now I have used the Nvidia panel to run GW at 16Q AA and the graphics look even better. My FPS dropped by about 5 or so. Still >30 FPS in town

Sentao Nugra · Jan 14, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Heres what I am running and my customs on the NVidia panel:

1.83Ghz C2D
1GB DDR2 800Mhz
eVGA 7900GT KO
19' Viewsonic 1440x900

Forced options:
8xS AA
16x AF
V-Sync: Off

FPS: 69 at attached location

darksiege · Jan 14, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

If you have the "Enhance application settings" for AA instead of "Override application settings", try that instead. I think it makes the image better.

EDIT:
Sentao Nugra, I checked my FPS at the same location as your screenshot and i get about 108 FPS at 1680x1050 resolution.

trollfan · Jan 15, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

i have read about these problems quite much, as i am having the same.
based on my experience; a soundcard could be part of the problem. My fps increased some when i bought a soundcard (and stopped using onboard sound) though, this didnt do much, and probably not a solution to your problem.

i have also noticed that Guildwars runs better after i have restarted the computer (epsecially if i have been using torrent-downloading software (azureus), plus whats more, it seems winamp (some say even firefox running in the background!) can really have an negative impact on Gw's performance.

try closing _every other application_, if you havent already

Chilly Ress · Jan 15, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Ok, I got it. My monitor has a refresh rate of 60 MHz and thus topping out at 60 FPS. I disabled that in Guild Wars, didnt do anything. I forced it off on graphics control panel and FPS boosted up to 150. Thanks for all the help. Really enlightened me on how smart some of y'all are with computers.

Sentao Nugra · Jan 15, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksiege

If you have the "Enhance application settings" for AA instead of "Override application settings", try that instead. I think it makes the image better.

EDIT:
Sentao Nugra, I checked my FPS at the same location as your screenshot and i get about 108 FPS at 1680x1050 resolution.

Mind telling me where you found this in the control panel? I haven't been able to find it.

darksiege · Jan 16, 2007, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra

Mind telling me where you found this in the control panel? I haven't been able to find it.

For me, this option was just above Override Application Settings on the scrolldown list.

Sentao Nugra · Jan 16, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Is what we are talking about in the same place (pic attached?)

If not, can you post what tab you are under where you found this option?

darksiege · Jan 16, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I think my nvidia control panel is a new one, yours appears to be the older version.

Sentao Nugra · Jan 16, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

I switched to the new view,, like yours, and went to the same spot. I don't even have that option... hmm.... time to figure out what is going on.

Rakeris · Jan 16, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Strange, I just looked for kicks, and I have the option in both the new and the old control panel.

darksiege · Jan 17, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

Sentao Nugra, maybe you need a newer Forceware driver.
Rakeris, do you notice better graphics when using Enhanced instead of Override?

Sentao Nugra · Jan 17, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksiege

Sentao Nugra, maybe you need a newer Forceware driver.

Shouldn't be that, unless you are using unreleased drivers. I just reformatted and installed the 93.71 drivers and nTune utility this week (my card install cd came with older drivers.) :S Any other ideas?

Krispy · Jan 29, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

ok...I posted this in another topic, but it's worth getting more input.

Here's my setup

WinXP Pro
P4 3.2g
1 gb ram
120gb hd
BFG 7800GS OC Video Card
Audigy 2 sound card

My old card (bfg 5950fx OC) burned up and the comp is still under warranty, so they replaced it with the 7800. when I first installed it, I was getting 70-80 fps @ 1600x1200 with highest settings. Now, I only get 10-15. changing resolutions does nothing significant. the highest I get with the lowest settings is 20-25fps. Occasionally, I'll be playing and my frame rate will suddenly jump up to 70-80fps and stay there for the rest of the time i'm on.

some things to note:

-latest Forceware drivers, set to "app controlled" for the aa & af
-No spyware, checked daily.
-defrag at least once per week
-no other programs running, except teamspeak, occasionally.
-core temp on the video card is 35-45^C while playing, slowdown's set to 115, so no chance I'm hitting that.
-tried running without sound
-don't use EAX
any ideas?