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el eugi · Jul 19, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Hey guys,
I'm just wondering if my system is good enough to run Gwen and Gw2?
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2 processors running - AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

2.00 GHz Performance Rated at 5.70 GHz

958.5 MB of RAM

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE (GeForce 6150 LE)
Video Card Features:
-256.0 MB Video RAM
-3D Acceleration
-Vertex/Pixel shader

Direct X 9
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Maybe you didn't need all that information...
Also, when I play GW Nightfall, my FPS is an embarrassing 10 or 11. I'm currently defragmenting my computer, but I don't know how good that will do.

If I could get suggestions on what I need and what I shouldn't worry about, that will definitely be great.

Thank you : )

Brother Andicus · Jul 19, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

In the short term(GW:EN) you'll see a vast improvement from a new graphics card. A good budget card right now is the Nvidia 7600GT.

As far as GW2 goes, we don't know the specs yet, but if those specs meet the minimum it will be only just. Also, GW2 is likely to have support for some of the pretty new features in dx10 and unless you want to miss out on those you are probably going to need a complete new machine before then.

el eugi · Jul 20, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

I hear ya...
I can play GW:EN and 2 in pretty minimal requirements as long as I don't lag terribly...

Kyuuba · Jul 20, 2007, 02:23 AM // 02:23

everything you have except for the video card is enough to play GW:EN and GW2.
look into getting a budget video card like as suggested.
Geforce 7600GT(~$100) or 8600GT (~$130), the latter supporting DX10.

scrinner · Jul 20, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

That card is laughable. Sorry to say. I am 99.99% Sure that wont work for Gw2. It'll barely work for anything these days anyways. Get a 7600. With that you should be able to meet the minimum of GW2. 8600 Is even better.

Note... From your Ram it seems your Graphic Card is integrated. You have 1 gig of ram but your card is feeding off your ram

el eugi · Jul 20, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Haha, no worries, I know my video card isn't very good.
By integrated do you mean that I can't replace it with another card?

eggrolls · Jul 20, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

you can replace it. since you have a 6150, the motherboard most likely has a pci-e slot, which will work with any of the video cards mentioned.

hellyea526 · Jul 20, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

you can replace it with another card, integrated just means the card itself doesn't have memory so it takes memory from your ram

just rude · Jul 20, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by el eugi

Haha, no worries, I know my video card isn't very good.
By integrated do you mean that I can't replace it with another card?

NO,
By integrated he means it is PART of your motherboard, also you may have to disable it thru your BIOS the press f* button, the message that comes up as soon as your pc boots. You should see a splash screen with the name of who put together your PC, i.e., HP or Dell.

Your comp looks fine. Look at the min specs for GW its like a 10yrs old machine, which is nice.

edit: Hell makes the most half right statement ever period

yes it will suck your ram, the card being INTEGRATED, although I'm sure they can make an integrated card with its own memory, but why all integrated stuff sux, except NICs.

el eugi · Jul 20, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Neat : ) Thanks guys.
So, how will I know that I have to disable the video card before I install, say, the Nvidia 7600GT one? I'm guessing instructions will be brought with the video card package but since you mentioned it...

Also, I asked one of the sales associate at Future Shop how I can find out what kind of video card my computer has, say, PCI or otherwise. He said that I have to actually look inside my computer, beside the motherboard or something? And that if there's a brown logo then it's PCI?

Is that really the only way to check or is there maybe another method?

Thanks again : D

Malice Black · Jul 20, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by el eugi

Neat : ) Thanks guys.
So, how will I know that I have to disable the video card before I install, say, the Nvidia 7600GT one? I'm guessing instructions will be brought with the video card package but since you mentioned it...

Also, I asked one of the sales associate at Future Shop how I can find out what kind of video card my computer has, say, PCI or otherwise. He said that I have to actually look inside my computer, beside the motherboard or something? And that if there's a brown logo then it's PCI?

Is that really the only way to check or is there maybe another method?

Thanks again : D

Your card is PCI-E

see here: http://www.nvidia.com/page/gpu_mobo_features.html

SigurdTheBalmung · Jul 20, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

It would be easier for people to suggest an upgrade if you could give the motherboard info from your DXDiag file. Like others have said, your GPU is integrated onto the motherboard. You can't remove it, but you can disable it and use another card. The 7600GT is a great little budget card, but note that it is a budget card. By the time GW2 is released you may need an upgrade. For GWEN it will be fine. The important part to note is specifically what slots you have available to you, AGP or PCI-E.

deathy · Jul 20, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

That's a lot better than my system, and mine run perfectly well, doubt it would cope with gw2 though...

el eugi · Jul 21, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigurdTheBalmung

It would be easier for people to suggest an upgrade if you could give the motherboard info from your DXDiag file. Like others have said, your GPU is integrated onto the motherboard. You can't remove it, but you can disable it and use another card. The 7600GT is a great little budget card, but note that it is a budget card. By the time GW2 is released you may need an upgrade. For GWEN it will be fine. The important part to note is specifically what slots you have available to you, AGP or PCI-E.

Great advice, but how do I check my DXDiag file so that it may be easier to suggest an upgrade? Sorry guys for all the questions...

Brother Andicus · Jul 21, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Go to the windows start menu and select the Run option.
In the box that appears type dxdiag.

Josh · Jul 21, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Are you telling me your not upgrading that rig at all for the next 3 or so years? Remember, Guild Wars 2 is released in 2010...

Your rig really deserves a good upgrade, seriously!

el eugi · Jul 22, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Are you telling me your not upgrading that rig at all for the next 3 or so years? Remember, Guild Wars 2 is released in 2010...

Your rig really deserves a good upgrade, seriously!

No kidding, I'm thinking I'm better off just buying a new system, but who has money for that? If GW is really not coming out for years, no point even worrying about a new system at this point.

Thanks to Brother Andicus' help, I was able to find the DXDiag page. There are plenty of tabs, but I have no knowledge of what to do with them. It's sad I know so little of computers - _ -

Brother Andicus · Jul 22, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25

To get your dxdiag information in a format for others to look at press the save all information button. This will then save a .txt file to your chosen location. Then simply copy and paste into the forum.

As far as upgrading goes, i'd go for a 7600gt to tide you over for now. It'll set you back around £70. You've then got at least a year to save for a complete new machine for GW2.

el eugi · Jul 22, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Andicus

To get your dxdiag information in a format for others to look at press the save all information button. This will then save a .txt file to your chosen location. Then simply copy and paste into the forum.

As far as upgrading goes, i'd go for a 7600gt to tide you over for now. It'll set you back around £70. You've then got at least a year to save for a complete new machine for GW2.

Excellent, guess that's the plan then.
DXDiag Stuff (but not everything)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 958MB RAM
Page File: 313MB used, 2000MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6150 LE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0241&SUBSYS_2A34103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 16:22:00, 4527488 bytes

JAK3US · Jul 22, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Do you know the name of your motherboard? That would help a lot. If possible, try to find the name of your power supply unit. Just open the side of your computer and take a look at the box with all of the wires coming out. If you have a weak PSU, you might have to upgrade that too.