Aug 07, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Profession: W/
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I actually had something like this happen to me only once when I was in the wurms the animation got all screwy but not as bad as yours
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Aug 07, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31
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#22
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boise Idaho
Guild: Druids Of Old (DOO)
Profession: R/Mo
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Considering the 8800 series of card is available only for PCI-Express, I do not think it will work. The 5700 series of card is AGP 4/8X only. The highest end he could do is an over-priced 8600 series. That said, I would advise a 7900 or 7950.
As for the issue it self, I had the same thing happen myself. It turned out that the cooling fan had locked up. I would check the fan, if it is locked up, you may be able to save the card by replacing the fan. If it spins freely, do a power test, if the fan fails replace it. If it rotates, replace the card.
As for what card to get, anything with 12 or more pixel pipelines will work fine. In this case, the more the better.
As you are using Vista, the DX10 capabilities of the 8600 may be worth checking into even if the performance is just below the 7900 series.
Edit: Spelling errors.
Last edited by KZaske; Aug 07, 2007 at 05:36 AM // 05:36..
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Aug 07, 2007, 07:02 AM // 07:02
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#23
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: The Allegiance Of The Lost
Profession: E/
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video card = overheating.
if your overclocked, return to normal.
if your at normal, underclock it a bit (lets face it GW isnt exactailly vid card intesive)
also, if your having a heat wave where u are it just might be that
also, try cleaning inside ur case. dust prevents heat dissapation.
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Aug 08, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33
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#24
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2007
Profession: R/Me
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Just get a 7600 GS AGP for a little under 100$. I have a 7600GT and it runs GW fine.
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Aug 08, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41
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#25
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Guild: Black Belt Jones
Profession: R/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squalus the Ipno
from my experience photoshop ftw or lcd cracked not problems of video card... The video card does not burn the monitor/lcd. It seems no a deformed image due to video card overheating
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First of all, that's exactly what heat and overvoltage damage to a GPU looks like. Second, a cracked monitor doesn't show up in a screenshot.
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Aug 08, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Profession: R/
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Yup, either your video card is overheating badly or it's already damaged. If you can't RMA it get a new one.
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Aug 08, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiak
Technically, the 8800 Ultra Superclocked is the fastest, faster then the Ultra. Now I believe you can get the 8800 Ultra black pearl edition from EVGA thats clocked faster then the 8800 Ultra Superclocked, but it comes with a VGA water block, not a fan, so you need a water cooling system as it was ment to be used.
I love EVGA products, you pay a bit more for them, but they are the fastest
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or get a regular 8800gtx and download rivatuner for free, and superclock it yourself ;D
but i digress, from the sounds of it your computer wont handle anything above the high end AGP geforce 7 cards, I recommend one of those.
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Aug 08, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59
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#28
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: The Allegiance Of The Lost
Profession: E/
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with everyone here talking about Geforce i have only 3 letters to say.
A. T. I.
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Aug 08, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30
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#29
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Guild: Black Belt Jones
Profession: R/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silph
with everyone here talking about Geforce i have only 3 letters to say.
A. T. I.
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Well, I like ATI too, but in this case I have to agree with the previous posters. The 8800GTX and Ultra are the fastest (best in speed, not necessarily features) GPUs on the market. nVidia's DX9 AGP products are generally better than ATI's as well, although the x1600 and even the x800/x850 are good alternatives.
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Aug 09, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Garden City, Idaho
Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR)
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Second, a cracked monitor doesn't show up in a screenshot.
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Your logic is undeniable, but exceedingly necessary.
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Aug 09, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57
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#31
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: The Allegiance Of The Lost
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Well, I like ATI too, but in this case I have to agree with the previous posters. The 8800GTX and Ultra are the fastest (best in speed, not necessarily features) GPUs on the market. nVidia's DX9 AGP products are generally better than ATI's as well, although the x1600 and even the x800/x850 are good alternatives.
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ok, explain this then.
the origional Xbox used a modified Nvidea chipset for video, because it was the best on the market at the time.
the Xbox 360 uses a modified ATi board for graphics.... for lower cost? i dont thinkz so.
also, you have to keep in mind a few things. first ATi held back a bit to release a D3d10 card, because they wanted to do it RIGHT. whereas nvidea just tossed it out immedieatly. i bet once we get solid d3d10 apps, a test of the ATi HD2600 vs the geforce 8800 will show the ATi card to be more solid.
also, the x1950 is supposed to be a competitor for the 8400 series (i think i dont know nvidea series codes well) and most people forget that... and compare the 8800 and the x1950... leading to very skew'd results.
Last edited by Silph; Aug 10, 2007 at 12:01 AM // 00:01..
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Aug 09, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57
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#32
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: The Allegiance Of The Lost
Profession: E/
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D'OH Double Post!
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Aug 10, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26
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#33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Guild: Black Belt Jones
Profession: R/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silph
ok, explain this then.
the origional Xbox used a modified Nvidea chipset for video, because it was the best on the market at the time.
the Xbox 360 uses a modified ATi board for graphics.... for lower cost? i dont thinkz so.
also, you have to keep in mind a few things. first ATi held back a bit to release a D3d10 card, because they wanted to do it RIGHT. whereas nvidea just tossed it out immedieatly. i bet once we get solid d3d10 apps, a test of the ATi HD2600 vs the geforce 8800 will show the ATi card to be more solid.
also, the x1950 is supposed to be a competitor for the 8400 series (i think i dont know nvidea series codes well) and most people forget that... and compare the 8800 and the x1950... leading to very skew'd results.
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Well, the xbox vs xbox 360 comparison is irrelevent. Microsoft's decision to use one graphics chip or another has to do with a lot more than what is the best tech on the market at the time. In fact, it probably has very little to do with that. You're talking about design decisions involving hardware compatibility, GPU features, etc. You're also talking about business decisions that have to do with availability and the two companies' abilities to come to an agreement about cost and volume. The xbox 360's GPU performs just a little under a x1900. It's less complex than an x1900, but it gets a bit of a boost because of its unified memory architecture. Now I do believe that the x1900/x1950 was the best GPU design of that generation of GPUs, but that was LAST generation, and the 8800's are THIS generation. A lot can happen in a generation. ATI's x2X00 parts aren't measuring up nearly as well to nVidia's 8X00 parts in general, although the x2900xt is a darn nice GPU for the price.
If you actually do some reading about ATI's DX10 offerings, they were not delayed because they were trying to "do it right". ATI even admits that they flat-out had major problems getting their design to final silicon. Overall, the x2900 isn't a huge success for them. In fact, the price/performance ratio for the x2900xtx part was so bad that they couldn't get any oem partners to pick it up for card manufacturing. That's why you only see x2900xt parts and no x2900xtx parts. They were a design/fab failure.
The x1950 is not positioned to be a competitor to the 8800. I should know -- I own one. It's positioned against the 7950 parts (which it beats handily in many areas). The x1950 is just re-processed version of the x1900, allowing it to attain higher core clockspeeds. It's pretty much the same core that was designed WAAAAAAY before the 8X00 series existed. The x1950 is faster than any of the 8400 or 8600 parts, but the 8800GTS and 8800GTX beat it in most games. There are a few games that the x1950 beats the 8800GTS in framerates at very high resolutions, though. Still, they're just not evenly matched.
All I can tell you is to take a look around at some benchmarks around the web. In no way is the x2900xt up to snuff with the 8800GTX or 8800Ultra. This may improve with better drivers from ATI, but at the moment it simply cannot take the performance crown from the 8800GTX/Ultra.
Now, if I were buying a video card right now I would probably buy a x2900xt because it performs a bit better than a 8800GTS, is much cheaper than a 8800GTX, produces better image quality, and has better shader feature support than the 8800's. However, if you're buying based on pure framerate numbers the 8800GTX and 8800Ultra are tops. If you look at the numbers you can't really question that. However, for some people (like me) framerate isn't always king. I like my FP16 blends with MSAA, and ATI still produces the only consumer gaming parts that have displayed that capability.
Last edited by Dex; Aug 10, 2007 at 12:32 AM // 00:32..
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