Aug 09, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: UK
Guild: WIMP
Profession: Mo/
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Pci-e
Hi guys I have seen a few threads here about similar things and thought I would throw this open to you guys as some of you seem to know your stuff.
I have a mate who is new to GW his PC wasnt up to scratch to play so I advised him to get a new MOBO PSU RAM and PCI-E card to do the job so his FPS would be up to scratch.
He now has the MOBO PSU and RAM but I am strugling to know what to advise him to do about a PCI-E card.
He got a 775Dual-VSTA added and E6700 and 2GB of DDR2 667 but it seems the board has limited support of PCI-E (should have really written his shopping list for him but all he has messed up is the MOBO I think)
Anyway heres a LINK to supported cards I was hoping someone knows what his best bet is or something about the board that isnt published on he main site, I am at a loss now he cant use the card I had earmarked.
Idealy the card would be <£100 or he may as well drop the MOBO and use the PCI-E x16 card I can get him for £70 and will probs do better than whats on offer on the list enclosed.
Thanks in advance for any help this has had me scratching my head for the last week.
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Aug 09, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada
Guild: Kiss of Anguish [KISS]
Profession: P/W
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Uh.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASRock Products
775Dual-VSTA
LGA 775 for Intel® Core™ 2 Duo/ Pentium® XE / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D processors
VIA® PT880 Pro/Ultra Chipset
Supports FSB1066/800/533MHz processor, EM64T CPU and H-T Technology
Supports Dual Channel DDRII667 (DDRII x 2 DIMMs) and DDR400 (DDR x 2 DIMMs)
Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed AGP/PCIE/ PCI Buses
1 x PCI Express Graphics slot
1 x AGP 8X slot
Hybrid Booster - Safe Overclocking Technology
2 ports of SerialATA 1.5Gb/s, support RAID 0, 1, JBOD, 2 ATA133 IDE ports
HDMI_SPDIF header, providing SPDIF audio output to HDMI VGA card, allows the system to connect HDMI Digital TV/projector/LCD devices.
7.1 channel with High Definition Audio, 10/100 Ethernet LAN
Supports all features in Vista™ Premium
HD 8CH I/O: 4 ready-to-use USB2.0 ports, HD 7.1 channel audio jacks
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Aslong as he has 1 dedicated PCI-Express Graphic Slot... he can preatty much stick anything he wants in there. Aslong as his Power Supply is powerful enough.
That is something your friend will have to be very careful about.
- Check to see if the Video card requires external power, most do now.
- Check to see what type of PCI-E power connectors the video card uses, these can vary alot
- Check the power consumption of the video card on idle and on a full load
If your Video Card DOES require PCI-E power connectors, make sure your motherboard has them and the right kind for your video card, Power connectors vary in amount of pins depending on how much external power is needed.
As video cards become more powerful and consume more power, they also tend to generate alot more heat, so thats also something to consider.
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Aug 11, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: UK
Guild: WIMP
Profession: Mo/
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Thanks the responses.
I think I am going to advise him to exchange the board as it only supports PCI-E at 4x so if he puts in an 16x card it will be a waste.
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Aug 11, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada
Guild: Kiss of Anguish [KISS]
Profession: P/W
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There is no PCI-Express 4x for Video Cards, the Video PCI-Slot IS 16x.
PCI-Express was made to replace the old PCI-Ports on your motherboard for things like, Sound Cards, Video Tuners, Old PCI Video cards, etc.
There are currently two types of PCI-Express slots found on your motherboard at the same time. Smaller slots (usually white) for Add-in cards, and One ore More LONGER PCI-E 16x slots, these have a clip at the end.
You CANNOT insert a PCI-Express video card into a Non PCI-Express video slot, it just wont fit and it woudnt work.
I also find it odd that he would have PCI-Express slots on his motherboard but then having an AGP slot. It's like Cutting edge technology beside a Dinosaur, I would read the Motherboard's Manual to make sure first, it just doesnt make sense unless it was made for some reason for people that SPECIFICALLY want AGP with PCI-E, which to me is beyond belief.
If your not used to hardware, an AGP slot and a PCI-Express slot can look very much the same.
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Aug 12, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Communistwealth of Virginia
Guild: Uninstalled
Profession: W/Mo
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Asrock (offspin of ASUS) did/does make some motherboards with both types of slots. They were designed to be upgrade-friendly.
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