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Dec 04, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#21
Haskell Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2007	I could have spared all the words. First hit for 'mac-filtering+useless' in google: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 :-) All this stuff just causes many problems & trouble and does not add even a tiny bit of 'security'. Just imagine a normal user that uses Mac-whitelisting with 1 PC and from 1 day to the next his WLAN-network-card isn't working anymore... selfpwned? My statement to your general, wrong statement was also general and had nothing to do with MAC-filtering or ESSID-'hiding'. Those are not security-methods at all. If you want to discuss what I wrote, you should do it with my example. (I think it's not necessary). cu

Dec 05, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Chthon

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Originally Posted by Haskell

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

This article does NOTHING to back up your (false) claim that what I suggests were steps backwards. It merely shows that a moderately sophisticated attacker can easily defeat two them and bring you back to even with not adopting them. (It did not address limiting the IP pool at all.) Those two methods are still highly effective against unsophisticated attackers -- the mostly likely kind if you want to stop a home network leech. And you still have no produced one shred of evidence to back up your claims that they cause more "problems & trouble" than they are worth.

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My statement... had nothing to do with [what you were talking about].

Yeah, your statement had nothing to do with mine, except for the part where you framed it as a response to mine and where you falsely generalized from things which are steps backwards to the things I was talking about, which are NOT steps backwards. I have no desire to become the defender of "personal firewalls"; I just want you to stop making this false generalization from my three specific suggestions to "personal firewalls" and address my specific suggestions in the specific, or shut the hell up.

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