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moriz · Sep 27, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

they'll be here next week.

Just.nl · Sep 27, 2009, 08:52 AM // 08:52

The 5870 is a nice Graphic Card, I will get a new PC soon, but i wont take the 5870 because of my budget. I will grab the 5850 instead, is a great card either.

riktw · Sep 27, 2009, 02:23 PM // 14:23

HD5870 is a nice card.
the thing i really like is that you can connect 6 sceens max

only 6 screens are expensive, and i dont have space for that.
and my HD4870*2 is fast enough for a while.
i would like to see the temperatures of the HD5870*2 hmm 100 degrees celc anyone XD

i hope that nvidea can shop the gt300 chip in 2009, even if its a lot faster than the HD5870, ati got directX11 and nvidia got nothing.
and when the GT300 gets launched, prices of ATI will go down, and thats always nice

Lord Sojar · Sep 28, 2009, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by riktw

ati got directX11 and nvidia got nothing.

nVidia has DX11 on the GT300.

riktw · Sep 28, 2009, 05:54 PM // 17:54

let me say that better
ati got directx11 working, and selling VGA cards with it.
nvidia is not shipping any directx11 cards.
so all people who want to have directx11 when it launches are going to get an ati card becouse nvidia havent launced there directx11 card.
and nvidia launcing that thing before 22 october, yeah, dont think they make it.

Elder III · Sep 28, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

well, it's not like there's a slew of DX11 games coming out right away, in fact there's hardly any. As long as NVIDIA doesn't take too long to get their DX11 cards on the market they shouldn't lose that much, but if it's spring of 2010 as some rumours have it I expect they will indeed take abit of a hit. IMO it depends more on the DX11 games and how fast they can be /are developed.

moriz · Sep 30, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19

the 5850 is also here:
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/17652

... and as expected, it soundly beats the geforce GTX285, all the while having better power consumption than a 4850. runs cooler too... and not to mention, cheaper.

can't wait to see the crossfire numbers on these things.

malevolence · Sep 30, 2009, 12:23 PM // 12:23

It seems that 2 5850 (crossfire) is a very good option , cheap and a very good performance. check this out;

Radeon HD 5850: Knocking Down GTX 295 In CrossFire
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon...iew-31692.html

Quaker · Sep 30, 2009, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by riktw

so all people who want to have directx11 when it launches are going to get an ati card because nvidia haven't launched their directx11 card.

That may be true, but people who want to have Dx11 when any programs/games actually uses it, will have lots of choice.

Elder III · Sep 30, 2009, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by malevolence

It seems that 2 5850 (crossfire) is a very good option , cheap and a very good performance. check this out;

Radeon HD 5850: Knocking Down GTX 295 In CrossFire
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon...iew-31692.html

looks good, really good indeed

personally though I'm sticking with my 4850's CrossfireX until I need more GPU muscle, other than Crysis (which is years ahead of it's time) they can handle anything I've thrown at them so far... of course I can always dream about dual 5850s or 5870s and 6 30" LCDs..... that would take up the entire wall here lol

Lord Sojar · Sep 30, 2009, 07:25 PM // 19:25

TBH, you guys are going to shit bricks when you see the GT300 performance numbers vs price... but alas, I cannot show them to you!

Though, the HD5850 is a great card for the money, hands down. An excellent buy, especially if you plan to run 2 in Crossfire! Big kudos to AMD for the 5850, and a golf clap for the 5870.

Snograt · Sep 30, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Damn you and your NDAs, Rahja - damn your eyes.

moriz · Oct 01, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

he can't tell us, because nvidia does not have working silicon.

even if the new geforce turn out to be awesome, there isn't much point in upgrading to it. for instance, dual 5850 have shown to turn an overclocked core i7 965EE system into a CPU BOUND platform, at 2560x1600! just think about it: the fastest desktop processor in the world, a CPU bottleneck... at 2560x1600.

we're at the point where GPU performance have gone beyond the extreme and into the realm of ridiculousness. even if the GTX380 turns out to be better, it still wouldn't matter. it's just going to create CPU bottlenecks in practically every game at practically every resolution.

Lord Sojar · Oct 01, 2009, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

he can't tell us, because nvidia does not have working silicon.

even if the new geforce turn out to be awesome, there isn't much point in upgrading to it. for instance, dual 5850 have shown to turn an overclocked core i7 965EE system into a CPU BOUND platform, at 2560x1600! just think about it: the fastest desktop processor in the world, a CPU bottleneck... at 2560x1600.

we're at the point where GPU performance have gone beyond the extreme and into the realm of ridiculousness. even if the GTX380 turns out to be better, it still wouldn't matter. it's just going to create CPU bottlenecks in practically every game at practically every resolution.

We have working silicon... trust me. Yield issues are starting to fade too, which is good. Though, I only have 22 days left with the company until I move on to my new job.

Snograt · Oct 01, 2009, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Exciting times for real.

With a wonderful technology race like this, it doesn't matter which company you support - they take it in turns for the lead. I'm quite happy to stick with nVidia, mind you I'm totally skint so it's academic ^_^

KZaske · Oct 01, 2009, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

We have working silicon... trust me. Yield issues are starting to fade too, which is good. Though, I only have 22 days left with the company until I move on to my new job.

Congrats on the new job! I really hope it is by your choice and with more pay!

Elder III · Oct 01, 2009, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

We have working silicon... trust me. Yield issues are starting to fade too, which is good. Though, I only have 22 days left with the company until I move on to my new job.

I thought that you were going to be moving on sometime soon..... you are at least staying in the same field, right?

It's nice to get info from the "horses' mouth" so to speak. hehe

Ec]-[oMaN · Oct 01, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

All I want to know is will Nvidia have a dx11 part in the 250-299$ price point before Xmas

moriz · Oct 01, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

nvidia will be lucky to even have a sample board before christmas.

there's also the rumor that nvidia will rely on DX10.1 parts for their mainstream/budget segment. why? i have no clue. however, given that they are spinning the "DX11 doesn't matter" line, this is not particularly surprising.

Lord Sojar · Oct 01, 2009, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

nvidia will be lucky to even have a sample board before christmas.

there's also the rumor that nvidia will rely on DX10.1 parts for their mainstream/budget segment. why? i have no clue. however, given that they are spinning the "DX11 doesn't matter" line, this is not particularly surprising.

We have many, many fully functional in house cards. You can expect a launch late this year or early 2010. GT300 will be quite a show stopper, I assure you.

And what is this DX11 doesn't matter business? GT300 and all mainstream plans for the chip are DX11 capable, and you will find that prices will be far better than the GT200 launch.

Case in point, say hello to GT300...