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Old Nov 06, 2011, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #1
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Exclamation Building a PC -Need advice!

Hello everyone! I'm interesting in trying out building a computer - this would be my first time. I'm scared that I'll pick parts that aren't compatible in some way or I'll pick parts that aren't good. I've done a little research - but I still do not understand a lot about processors, motherboards etc.

This is where YOU come in - I've picked some parts off of newegg and I'd like to know if these are: Good parts, good value, and most importantly compatible.

I also make YouTube videos for fun so I'm hoping these parts will allow me to render videos a lot faster!

Any advice/help is appreciated - here are links to all the parts I'm interested in buying.

(I'm also concerned that the power supply isn't good enough to support all these parts - let me know if I'm correct.)

video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121429
Windows 7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986
Harddrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136776
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131767
PROCESSOR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103961
Case w/ power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156062
4gb memory ram (can i get more than one of these?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231307
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #2
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That is a powerful GFX card, and where a 500Watt PSU might be powerful enough i think by the time you finish plugging everything else into the PSU, its going to be struggling with that GFX card, i personally would look more towards the 750-800Watt's.

The CPU is AMD's new line, im not sure what these are like, AMD for me fell along way behind Intel in this last couple of years, hopefully someone here maybe has one who can give unbias advice on AMD's new line,

The Memory will work fine with that Motherboard, and you shouldnt need more than 4Gb, if you read the reviews on that memory, there are a quite a few people reporting that it came DoA or had massive of faults from a memtest, keep this in mind espically if its your first build and for whatever reason it doesnt boot.

Incase you dont realize that GFX card is also MASSIVE i mean its huge, make sure it will fit into that case, as i see it has a support bar running across it, which actually ( more than likely will ) get in the way of that GFX card.
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Old Nov 06, 2011, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #3
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definately youll need a better psu and from experience get a quality power supply. the cheap ones you get with cases don't hold up like they should especially with that sli video card. youll need the power. go with a corsair or antec at least 600 w or better personally higher wattage the better down the line. i had an sli video card blow up three cheap power supplies before i learned my lesson. bought my 600w 5 years ago and havent had a single problem i upgraded everything but didnt need to upgrade it yet
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #4
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Seconding what others are saying about the PSU. The GPU you are buying there is insane, and top GPU's need a top PSU to power them otherwise you risk damage to both ( Usually the PSU gives out and thus your computer becomes a brick until you replace it. Replacing PSU's is not fun. )

I believe that particular card actually Requires a 600W to run safely. I would go with AT LEAST a 700W. And from a good company. No Logisys crap. Corsair and Antec make good PSU's.

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #5
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I concur with the PSU suggestions.

Also, the FX processors run in a dual channel mode with up to DDR3-1866 RAM, so you should at least get a pair of DDR3-1333 RAMs such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231311
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #6
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600W will be enough worst case the system will be about 400W but go with a good and known brand the will provide clean power to your system.

Also look at reviews for the AMD FX series they are unfortunately not so good
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 05:34 PM // 17:34   #7
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Just one thing you need to be aware of, at the moment hard drive prices have skyrocketed due to the floodings in Thailand, where some of the parts are made. Here in the UK a 1 TB has gone up by as much as £150. It might be 2 or 3 months before prices come back down.
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Old Nov 08, 2011, 01:55 AM // 01:55   #8
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Check out the forum page you can find on Google search "NOTICE - PC builders, when asking for input on YOUR projects Please Tell"

In a nutshell:
What will you use the computer for? [you cited encoding / creation of video]
- if gaming, what games and on what kind of monitor / resolution?
What is your budget?
Where are you buying from?
Do you have any parts you will recycle?
Will you overclock the computer?

As noted by suggestions already (which I concur with), you have chosen a "flagship" graphics card. My guess is a GTX 580 would laugh at Guild Wars 3 on a 30" monitor, so what is your motivation for such a GPU?
Additionally, if you are encoding or transcoding videos, you'll want to go with Intel's "Sandy Bridge" line. Their CPUs are core-for-core and clock-for-clock faster than AMD for both gaming and and multimedia work, and at the moment they take up a lot less power. I'm running a Core i5 2500k and nVidia GTX 550 Ti and my computer's max power consumption measured at the wall is 240W.
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Old Nov 09, 2011, 12:20 AM // 00:20   #9
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*Rule of thumb- Stay away from combo deals involving a PSU. Average consumers believe the "savings" to be from buying pieces together, therefore getting a break from the retailer. Similar to how insurance companies offer savings on combining policies. The reality is the "savings" here are from them pawning off crap PSU units that will fry within the 1st year, and worse, could possibly take another hardware piece down with it.

CPU: Intel > Amd (i5 2500k is all you'll need if gaming)
Mobo: Given what I gather your budget is from what you've posted, go with a P67 chipset Asus board.
PSU: As people have already mentioned, I would suggest 700w minimum. I would suggest a modular or semi-modular PSU, which will keep clutter down and benefit air flow. 80 plus certified I would say a must, but as you go up the chain (bronze < silver < gold) you'll be paying for it. But as the saying goes, "you pay for what you get". PSU is not a place to cut corners if you ask me.
RAM: You can typically find decent 8gb kits (2 sticks of 4gb) for $30 if you keep an eye on sales. (Do you have a CompUSA/TigerDirect or Fry's near you?)
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130587 , same price, by a better company imo. Better customer support and warranties, something which can make the difference in what hardware you choose to buy.
Case: Just make sure the size fits your parts (mobo, PSU, GPU, etc) and provides decent air flow. Beyond that, its more or less personal preference. Easily accessible, easy to hide cables, and so on.

I'd wait on picking up a hard drive unless you're really needing to get this tower up and running ASAP. Prices are a bit high currently and you'll start seeing the SATA III drives drop in price after christmas and into the year, both HDD and SSD's. Can you just recycle a hard drive in your current system and wait it out? Cause if you can, I would.
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #10
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Go to this website NOW:

http://www.build-gaming-computers.com/index.html

With just a bit of reading, you will be buying components with ease and confidence in less than a half hour. They have recommendations for budget, mid and high end computers and what components work well together. They also have component suggestions if you want to build a cross between budget and mid-range, which is what I plan on doing.

They also give you super easy step-by-step instructions on how to actually put together your computer. I'm an ex-UNIX engineer, but it's been awhile since I put together a system so the guide is comforting to have.

I've been wanting a new gaming computer, but the costs were discouraging until I found this website. Now I'm really excited about the process of making my own.

I'm buying my components from tigerdirect.com. Not only do my techie friends use them, but the website recommends them as well.

Have fun!

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Old Nov 20, 2011, 07:21 PM // 19:21   #11
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Black friday is coming so if you can wait a week...

I usually just send folks to sd or fatwallet, but here's a link. It will change your life if you learn to use it. Save on everything, but don't buy shit you don't need if you can help it. Free info. It's not a club. You don't pay. Helps if you sign up for questions and stuff same as here.

This is their ongoing thread on computer builds. You can find better prices and info on builds/advice. Everything from basic builds to overclocking on water has been discussed in the thread or one of the guides.

http://100.slickdeals.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=553826

Micro center has a nice deal on mobo/cpu right now I think still going..

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...3483814&page=5

"Anyways i picked the 2500K deal up with the gigabyte mobo for $229 +tax - $10 rebate= $235

wahoo got my Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 and 2500K up to 4.8Ghz overclocked using cheap ass RAM from Dell, i cant wait till my good RAM gets here in the mail."

Frys had Antec 900 for $22! But I was too late.

Or you could look for a dell deal. $560 for a i7, 8 gigs RAM, 1 Gig gaming card, and 1.5 tb hd w win7 Pro is pretty amazing. Can't build it for that price.
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