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Roderick Bravehart · Jan 30, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Really, to tell the truth, I use a graphics design 16 button 2 wheel trackball mouse with all the main commands hotkeyed to the various buttons. I use the Ideazon Zboard too, but that's just for movement. Personally, I think that combo works best for gaming. It might just be me, but it's pretty killer for FPS's too. (Since I don't need to move as much)

jjdefan · Jan 30, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

if you got the cash: Razer Lachesis Muta Muta: "Bringer of Silent Death" THE Gaming Mouse! No other compares to it. Logitech is childsplay compared to this.

I've been looking at the Lachesis. Do you like it and think it is worth the price tag?

noneedforclevernames · Jan 30, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Well it's not like this is Starcraft where you need 200 APM {Actions Per Minute} in order to compete even at the average stage. Guild Wars is a very easy game when compared to RTS so I do not agree that it is your equipment.
My 13 year old brother holds halls weekly and he is only like 20 APM max. Guild Wars is more about the skills you bring and very basic use of them, not really how well you move your mouse {Expecially since you can activate your skills with the 1-8 keys and hit "T" for target and move with the keyboard} but i'd say just about and mouse would do.

I Dont Do Coke · Jan 31, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

No need for a gaming grade mouse for Guild Wars but there's the Razer DeathAdder Guild Wars Edition.

Nanood · Jan 31, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Lol i thought i was the only trackball gamer.. I could never go back to a regular mouse.

lord_shar · Jan 31, 2008, 07:49 AM // 07:49

I've purchased quite a few gaming mice... here is my take on them:

Wireless mice: forget about them... too much mouse lag lol.

Razer Diamondback - narrow design allows for quick, agile response. Despite its older design age, it would have been perfect had the two side thumb buttons been given two separate plastic plastic covers (pressing any side button too hard activated the other button contact). No hardware DPI adjustment buttons. However, the Diamondback is still one of the best mice I've used shape-wise.

Razer Copperhead - narrow design allows for quick, agile response. However, the mouse's platform base is so narrow compared to the top of the mouse that sqeezing the mouse's sides tends to lift the mouse off the table. Not good for aim stability purposes. No hardware DPI adjustment buttons.

Razer Death Adder - clean, crisp ergonomic design makes this another solid choice. However, for Hellgate London players, the optical sensor seems to have threshold issues (if you don't move the mouse fast enough, cursor movement does not register correctly on the screen). If you won't ever play HGL, then this mouse should be fine. No hardware DPI adjustment buttons.

Razer Habu - very similar look/feel to the Death Adder. Unlike the Death Adder, the Habu features hardware DPI switching and no optical sensor stall issues. It also has adjustable side buttons, but unfortunately these side buttons flex and creak like crazy. If you want a solid feeling mouse, stay away from this one.

Razer Lachesis - narrow design allows for quick, agile response like the Diamondback. 4000 DPI optical sensor is currently the best on the market. The biggest problem I found was that the mouse button5 (the side forward button) was positioned on the widened front wedge of the mouse. This made pressing that side button tend to push or "squirt the mouse forward out of the user's hands. I really wish Razer would take more time designing their mouse ergonomics properly instead for going for good looks alone. This mouse had such promise, but each time I use it, my hand ends up hurting after half an hour of UT3 game time.

Microsoft Sidewinder - pretty good design for large-hand users. Its high rear arch did lead to some ergo/comfort issues, but otherwise it was pretty good. Hardware DPI switching and adjustable weights make this mouse a pretty safe bet.

Logitech G5 - Venerable penut shaped ergo design. Very popular, supports hardware DPI switching. Unfortunately it gave me comfort problems due to its raised edges along the front of the mouse.

Logitech G9 - My current favorite mouse, though it has a number of odd-ball issues. 3200 dpi with hardware DPI switching and mouse wheel side-scroll is nice. It supports macros and has adjustable weights + grip shells. Unfortunately these shells hold the inner mouse a bit loose, leading to a squishy/flexy feel when gripped hard. I had to install adhesive felt pads on the inside of the shells to remove this excess play. The gray matte finish starts showing wear-marks after several days of use, so I covered the buttons with clear contact paper. Also, the satin wide grip started to peel unexpectedly after a few weeks, so now I'm using the narrow, hard plastic grip. Logitech is supposedly planning on selling aftermarket G9 grip shells, but I still see no signs of their actual release. UPDATE: I just visited Logitech's site and found replacement grips now being sold at $5.00 USD each. I ordered two just to be safe.

Sorry for being so wordy, but you wanted mouse reviews, so there they are...

TPike · Jan 31, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Toxage

I am looking to be more competitive in my gaming and I think I am losing often because of my poor equipment. I am using a dell computer with all the original equipment and the mouse sucks horribly, there are certain times when the mouse ball thingy gets stuck and stops moving completely which results in me losing! I looking around and found some interesting mice (G5, Some Razor ones) but they were wired mice. Anyone know a mouse that is wireless, uses a laser, and has programmable buttons? I don't give a crap about cost.

I got a Razer Diamondback a few months back and it was worth every penny.

May I ask why you want wireless?

Batteries are expensive & I hear swappable batteries can be a PITA plus wired have afaster response time.

I'd reccommend a Razer, I don't have model #s handy.

bathazard · Jan 31, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Guild wars mouse

should get this

gremlin · Jan 31, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by Nanood

Lol i thought i was the only trackball gamer.. I could never go back to a regular mouse.

I was put onto trackballs about 6 years ago and this is my third one, I seem to wear the buttons out with my excessive use.

New computer came with a mouse so I put my tracball on the new one and the mouse on the old but its a miserable experience when I am working on it.

When gaming gets intense its easy imo to lose the mousemat or even the desk, I always know where my thumb is in relation to the ball.

Thanks Hissy
I will be getting either a fang or the merc keyboard when money is available.

Malice Black · Jan 31, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

I have the Razor Copperhead. The Razer is pretty good, but my palm is about the size of the whole mouse. Need to find something bigger really.

Snograt · Jan 31, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by gremlin

I will be getting either a fang or the merc keyboard when money is available.

I find the idea of Ideazon's keyboards good, but in practice I find the build quality pretty poor and the keys themselves feel very flimsy and "clicky".

I'd heartily recommend the G15 though - if you can justify the wonga.

The Way Out · Jan 31, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Best mouse I have ever owned.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...5210&CatId=539

Mister Me · Jan 31, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

I use a Logitech G5, it's not wireless, but after my last mouse I didn't want a wireless version anymore, Logitech G5 does everything what you need in games like GW, dunno if it's fast enough for shooters.

Riot Narita · Jan 31, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Snograt

I find the idea of Ideazon's keyboards good, but in practice I find the build quality pretty poor and the keys themselves feel very flimsy and "clicky".

I wouldn't call it "poor", but I know what you mean. I haven't had my Fang long enough to say how reliable/durable it really is. It is made of plastic, it could be better, and I certainly wouldn't describe it as "professional" quality. But luckily, I'm not a professional. (It would be great if they made a "Pro" version though - precision-engineered and made out of metal).

And the price of the Fang is in line with what you get. It works for me, and I don't find the Fang any more flimsy than a regular keyboard. It's the design that wins for me. If it breaks, I'll be disappointed - but I'll probably buy another!

"Clicky" is good! I still have one of those indestructible clicky IBM keyboards from the eighties. Best keyboard EVAR. "Clicky" = "Positive feedback", you know for sure when you pressed a key. The Fang is nowhere near as good as that IBM keyboard, of course.

The Way Out · Jan 31, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Hissy

I wouldn't call it "poor", however I haven't had my Fang long enough to say how reliable/durable it really is. It is made of plastic, it could be better, and I certainly wouldn't describe it as "professional" quality. But luckily, I'm not a professional. (It would be great if they made a "Pro" version though - precision-engineered and made out of metal).

And the price of the Fang is in line with what you get. I don't find the Fang any more flimsy than a regular keyboard.

"Clicky" is good! I still have one of those indestructible clicky IBM keyboards from the eighties. "Clicky" = "Positive feedback", you know for sure when you pressed a key.

ROFLMAO... I hate keyboards or mice that sound like you are snapping trees in two when you type.

The Fang is a budget board at best and for a weekend gamer. Someone who just "plays" whatever it is they play. Those boards are not inherently bad, but yes they are cheap, and yes they are not precision gaming boards.

Luckily, the OP is hopefully getting the idea that you go Razer... or Logitech for precision... and lean towards Razer if you are into FP shooters. Razer is really geared towards games... Logitech caters to a graphics design and architectural fanbase... (with gamers as an afterthought). Go Razer or go home, IMHO.

bpphantom · Jan 31, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

For a mouse, I'm seriously looking at the Ideazon Reaper Edge.

I'd love to do a side by side comparison between the Deathadder and the Reaper Edge, but money being what it is....

pkodyssey · Jan 31, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

The Logitech G5 is the only mouse allowed to be attached to my computer.

Be careful of ANYTHING from Razer. It will work wonderfully for awhile then just crap out. EVERYTHING I have bought from those noobs has done that. Keyboard, mice, and headphones. I might just be unlucky but they will never receive another dime from me.

The Way Out · Jan 31, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by pkodyssey

The Logitech G5 is the only mouse allowed to be attached to my computer.

Be careful of ANYTHING from Razer. It will work wonderfully for awhile then just crap out. EVERYTHING I have bought from those noobs has done that. Keyboard, mice, and headphones. I might just be unlucky but they will never receive another dime from me.

I have been gaming since Pong... hehe... so I know a little bit about things (not to mention I work in IT... and know more than I want to about hardware).

I have owned the Razer Copperhead since it debuted... two years ago. The only problem I have had with it was during an upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. I lost the function of its programmable keys. I just uninstalled the software, unplugged the mouse, installed the software, replugged the mouse in, and the mouse works fine. On the other hand, I have had this same problem with the G5. I seriously suggest you roll with either a Razer or a Logitech. They are both good peripheral makers... however... I am a hardcore gamer... I go Razer... call it preference.

isamu kurosawa · Jan 31, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Being left handed using a trackball is kinda tricky for myslef.
I use the razer diamondback 3G mouse. It was the perfect balance for me, not too big like some mice and not too small like the krait. The side buttons i now use to activate skill 1 and 2 (handy for monking or interrupting).

I was thinking of getting a zboard with the factions keyset but the buttons look clunky so i'll be aiming for a g15. that way i can just macro emotes to keys and get the same effect XD.

For a mouse though i'd definatly reccomend a razer product. A warning to all left-handed gamers though, Research gaming keyboards and especially mice thoroughly. I was set to get the razer gw edition mouse at first till i saw a top-view of it.

gremlin · Jan 31, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Snograt

I find the idea of Ideazon's keyboards good, but in practice I find the build quality pretty poor and the keys themselves feel very flimsy and "clicky".

I'd heartily recommend the G15 though - if you can justify the wonga.

That's a shame, the thrustmaster is still working fine and its very old now prob 5 years plus.
Its been used pretty much every day for a whole range of games and hasnt failed yet.
Only reason for a change is lack of vista drivers.

The G15 looks to me to have a standard key setup, the great thing about the tacboard was the key positions.
You had 7 keys set up for your thumb to operate and a bank of 9 keys in a football shape surrounding the movement keys.
Brilliant design its almost worth dumping vista to be able to use it again.

I only hope the fang is as easy to get used too.