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Admael · Mar 11, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

When overclocking a GPU, there three main components you can overclock. First, there is the core clock, second is the memory clock, and finally, the shader clock.

When you do attempt to overclock, make sure you setup fan profiles to accommodate your newly clocked card. Doing so will ensure your card has adequate cooling.

You may ask "what's the maximum, safest, speed for my card?" well, there is no short answer because all cards are unique, especially to their environment. The results of two cards can be duplicated, but there is no maximum-safe for a series of cards. If you want to know the answer, it's trial and error.

Suffice to say, when overclocking your card, if you experience heavy artifacts, freezing, driver/memory errors, restarts, etc, it means to back down, lower the core/memory/shader clock a bit, and try again. It doesn't hurt your card unless you try to raise your card over 80% of it's default clock and turn the fan to 1%.

Brianna · Mar 11, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Okay, and if I want, It's safe to uninstall it?

I'm in the GPU Fan tab now, it says 3 things;

*Standard 2D

*Low Power 3D

*Performance 3D

What does that mean? Which do I do to increase the cards fan?

And also I realize this is kind of going off topic, but It's answering one of my other questions at the same time, so It's ok really.

illmatic89 · Mar 11, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

If you select direct control you can only adjust the performance 3d setting. When you adjust it will raise the other settings as well. If you raise it too high the fan will make more noise. 50% should be enuff to keep your card at good temps.

Gwmaster · Mar 11, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

well since i dont want to ask the question in a new thread, ill ask it in this one.
Is it normal that my fps is freaking high? i mean i got above 400fps when i look the sky sometimes. although in my eyes i dont really see a difference.

Admael · Mar 11, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

It's probably cuz you have vsync off. Mine fluctuates between 4 and 5 hundred (in town) when I have it off. What's important is your average FPS, as long as its consistent, it's fine.

BogusDude · Mar 11, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

I recently bought a new PC with a 768mb 8800GTX in it. When i first got it up and running i was only getting 75fps which was a damn sight more than my old system but i expected more as its supported with quad chips and 4 gig of ram. After a little tweaking with the software its now running at about 100-120fps with room to spare. I'm not familiar with the technical jargon above but are you sure its not something as simple as your settings?
I would have thought that if it was a PSU issue you'd be getting the dreaded blue screen. My old system originally had a 350W PSU and while it was fine when i first got it as it aged and GW grew i suffered the blue screen, upgraded to a good quality 450W and it run fine, had a Radeon 9950 in that on a single core AMD.
If you want a cool option for a relatively cheap upgrade consider a new tower with additional fans. I have the Antec900 which has 4 extra fans in it, probably a similar price to a good PSU.

Oh and i'm told the average human is only capable of seeing 30-50fps so anymore isn't needed.

Brianna · Mar 11, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

My case is fine, it's pretty quality and has 2 120MM fans and an 80MM in the top.

And yeah basically I'm just concerned about me getting 20 FPS in congestion, If it was at least 30 FPS in congestion then I'd be fine, but 20.. way too little, didn't pay 200$ for performance that my old 6600 produced.

gone · Mar 11, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

I don't know, but I'll tell you this, my evga 8800gts 320mb screams out the FPS while running GW.

v-sync on like 75 fps with eye candy
off/w eye candy - upwards of 400-500 (depending on area)

and yes, i'm running vista ultimate.
630w PSU (junker from another build)

and here is the treat, I swap out with a BFG 8800gts oc 512mb (g92). with no problems.

my guess is it's your power or your processor.

Brianna · Mar 11, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Hmm.. well that's good news to hear that the 320MB 8800GTS does get good performance, but I honestly am not convinced that it's my power supply, my computer is getting full power as it seems and I can play Call of Duty 4 for Hours on end and never have problems.

My Processor seems perfectly fine too.. hmm.. with V-sync off I get like 150 FPS, 8600 only managed about 100 with V-sync off.. wonder if something really is throttling me back, I just can't think of what it could be since all my hardware seems to be running fast, perhaps its my mobo? (this was in window mode)

EDIT: Just got Guild Wars up to 562FPS with Vertical Sync off in Full Screen mode, just as a note.

Though I wish not to play with Vertical Sync off, I want it on, I don't care for anything over 60 FPS as it's rendered useless after 60 anyways.

Got this after setting everything on low settings; All I can say is lol.

I guess I should say that I mostly play in Window mode, and find that my performance is very horrible in it, opposed to the 8600 having good performance in it.

Now I know that Window Mode is harder to maintain, and doesn't get as good performance of course, but I think my video card should honestly handle it, Full Screen gets very good performance though, very congested areas with tons of things gets like 30 FPS minimum for a moment, but bounces back up to 40 or so.

Also in Full Screen sometimes my card(s) get stutters and it jacks the fps down about 10 prior to what it was at before, kinda hurts my eyes too. Maybe it's my drivers?

Admael · Mar 11, 2008, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Do yourself a favor, futureproof! Trade in that G80 GTS for a GT 512.

You can double check to make sure your PSU is giving off the power your system needs! Enter BIOS to view the system monitor, then check if your +3.3v, +5v, +12v rails give off sufficient voltages!

When in doubt, upgrade to this baby. 72 amps on the 12v rail

Brianna · Mar 11, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Yeah, I think I'll trade it in for the 512, seems a better bang for the buck.

Also I installed new Antec 3 Speed fans into my case (120mm) and they dropped the temperatures 5C on the 8800 and my CPU, amazing! It's an unrelated note, just thought I'd share.

Why_Me · Mar 12, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasha the Mighty

I can't overclock either (yet), mainly cuz my system will still be crap even after I spend hours on that. When I upgrade my sys though, I will, but there are probably millions of guides out there which explain how it works. And dont use nTune, it sucks, or so i've read...

I installed ntune awhile ago, did a fan speed adjustment using 3 different speed profiles according to temperature. I ran warcraft 3 with vsync on later that day. I got my first BSOD with my new computer, after several weeks of use. Don't use ntune.

Yay video card and rivatuner guide.

Brianna · Mar 22, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Thread rez, cause I have a new question that is relevant to this.

Okay so I have SpeedFan, HWmonitor (from the makers of CPU-Z) and GPU-Z.

Speedfan and HWmonitor both report my GPU Temperature to be 70C or so, while GPU-Z reports it to be way less, like 63C.

So the question is, which do I trust? I think it's kind of vital that I know the real temperatures, perhaps anyone else has some other trustable/accurate programs for testing temps?

EDIT: Now I bumped up the cards fan speed via RivaTuner to 75% and now all the monitors seem to be saying its at 62C, except GPU-Z which says its like 51C. Also I told it to apply 75% to the fan speed on system startup, that's fine right?

Admael · Mar 22, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

You have to make sure they're reading the same node first. The graphics card itself has 3 sensors. The GPU, GPU memory, and ambient sensors.