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IrishCB · May 08, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

If you know how to run Server, I suggest the x64 version of Server 2003. Yeah I know its almost 6 years old now, but it has everything and more. I use Sx64 and Xpx64 Pro, and I would say I get about a 25-30% performance increase from Server. This is due to its stripped down nature and the fact that its a Server platform and is made to handle excessive loads.

Thizzle · May 09, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

1. Get home
2. 32bit = 3gb, 64= 4gb+
3. No

Not a whole lot of DX10 games to begin playing.

Admael · May 09, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Is it worth it? No, but now is a good time as ever, those who were with Vista when it first was released know what I'm talking about.

Microsoft Home Premium is all you need, Ultimate is just for fan of Microsoft, stuff that should come with basic version of Windows, but doesn't because they want to see how many idiots would actually pay money for it (including me~).

I use Vista Ultimate 64, not because I need the 4GB support, I only use 2GB, but because "it feels like the right operating system to use".

In short, there isn't a lot of DX10 games, and even fewer 64-bit games.
Vista Home Premium!

necronninenine · May 14, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

MY Computer works well enough for the moment but getting older by the day.
My question is What kind of REQ will GW2 need?
Anybody come across this yet? I would like to buy a new one but I really want GW2 to kick ass on it so should I wait or is it already known what GW2 needs to kick but?

zamial · May 14, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

It will support DX10.

That is all we know.

snaek · May 14, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamial

It will support DX10.

That is all we know.

'support' but not 'require' (i hope) -___-'

zamial · May 14, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaek

'support' but not 'require' (i hope) -___-'

I have no proof other than memory, but I believe gaile grey has mentioned it will be dx10 and dx9.

Brianna · May 14, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Of course it will Support DX-9, for people who can't/don't want to go DX10, and of course for troubleshooting purposes.

The same reasons we have DX8 support in Guild Wars 1 still.

Admael · May 14, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Yeah, all DX10 games in the market now, support DX9 as well. There should be no problem with this.

Alex Morningstar · May 26, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmiscool

So after reading the title, i have some basic questions. Mah pc is easily capable of running vista, but i was wondering the following:

1). What are the differences between all the different classes of Vista?
2). 32 bit vs. 64 bit?
3). Is it worth an upgrade from XP Pro just for DX10 and all the snazzy addons?

and if there is some super secret sale i am missing, post a link!

Windows 7 is out in 2010, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO Vista.

disclaimer: while I'm not saying 7 is going to be any better, (I'd hope) I figure Microsoft would look at their current lols and lolwtfwuts and learn from their mistakes.

Shitty OSes are inevitable. You had 98, awesome. Then you had ME/2000 omgwtf. XP, not bad sir, I think I'll use it. Then Vista, lolololol. By this logic, 7 should at least be alright.

Lord Sojar · May 26, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

If you want to run Crysis with all the goodies, get the 64bit Ultimate Vista, otherwise don't bother. My big rig that I use for engineering runs Vista Ultimate 64bit, and has a hefty 8GBs of RAM, among some other unique "things". Vista Ult. 64 bit isn't that bad provided you have SP1 installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by necronninenine

MY Computer works well enough for the moment but getting older by the day.
My question is What kind of REQ will GW2 need?
Anybody come across this yet? I would like to buy a new one but I really want GW2 to kick ass on it so should I wait or is it already known what GW2 needs to kick but?

I have a good concept of what it will require, based on a 2009 GPU/GPGPU estimation paper we have, which I think if you guys dig for, you can find someone talking about it.

You are looking at for 2009 releases, 1GB RAM MINIMUM, 3.0GHz P4 or Equivalent processor MINIMUM, 256MB Geforce 6000 series/ATi 2000 Direct X 9.0c compatible cards MINIMUM (nVidia Geforce 6800 or ATi Radeon x800 for Vista), Cable/DSL or faster internet connection for online play.

RECOMMEND: Intel Core 2 or equivalent 1.8GHz or better CPU (2.2GHz Vista)/AMD Athlon X2 4000+ or better (6000+ vista), 2GBs DDR2 RAM or better (3GB Vista), 256MB nVidia 7900 series or better GPU/AMD HD2400 or better GPU (Vista Geforce 8000 series or AMD HD3000 series)

Hope that clears it up. GW2 may be more or less, my guess is a bit less or equal.

Quaker · May 27, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

"Worth it" is such an objective term. But let me throw in my 2 cents:

I'd say it's not "worth it" in the generally accepted sense, if you already have a good stable installation of Windows XP. If you are still using 98, it's time to step up.

Personally, I had no intentions of getting Vista, but when I recently bought a laptop, it came with Vista. I instantly liked the "look and feel" of Vista, so when it came time to upgrade my computer (which I do quite often), and since I didn't have a "legitimate" copy of XP (shock!

), I decided to spring for Vista on my desktop. (I do have several original copies of Win95 and 98, so my conscience is clear.

)

Well, that was (and still is) an adventure. If you just buy a new machine with Vista installed and use the software that comes with it, you should have no problems. If you are like me, and do a few other things like MAKE YOUR OWN DAM FOLDERS, it can be a real pain.
What I'm referring to with that last bit, is that when you make a "new folder" in Vista, it automatically marks the folder as "read only". This really makes a lot of sense - you make a new folder to put stuff in, but you can't put stuff in it because it's read-only. And, best of all, the only way to make it writeable is to open a "command prompt" and use the old DOS based "attrib" command.
There were numerous other fun things with Vista too. I think the OP could have lots of "fun" with it.

But Guild Wars works just fine and just as well as it did with XP. Of course, Vista decided to force my screen shots and templates to be on the C: drive under Documents, instead of on the D drive with the rest of GW, where I would want it, but...

As far as 32 bit vs 64-bit is concerned, the only real advantage to 64-bit (at this time) is the ability to address more that 4gigs of RAM. At the present time I have 4gigs, but can "only" address about 3.25gigs. But 3+ gigs is more than enough for what I do (including some video editing.) Given the possible driver problems, I wouldn't worry about 64-bit until the next version of windows.

And, speaking of the next version of windows, I wouldn't say the Microsoft is "ditching" Vista. The length of time between Vista and Windows7 is about the same as between Win95 and Win98 and WinXP (about 3 years). Seems like a more-or-less normal development cycle.

So, long story short. Vista can be a pain in the ass at times, but I haven't gone back to XP, though I've been really, really tempted at times.

Snograt · May 27, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

That's odd - I make new folders in Vista all the time and I've never come across a write-protect issue before.

Is it a known issue?

Brianna · May 27, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

I make folders at constant and dump pictures, music, and anything normal into them with no problems either, I was like ''o_0'' at that when you mentioned it, must be something weird.

Admael · May 27, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

I make folders all the time as well. No problems with any write protection... or any protection for that matter. UAC is not even a problem anymore.

Snograt · May 27, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Rather than disable UAC as many have done, I've just got used to it instead - I no longer see the requestors as I auto-click through them

Jenn · May 27, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

I have vista.
Have never had any problems.
Then again, I only had to pay $80 for a legit upgrade - they were on sale at all Future Shop and Best Buy stores (in Ontario, at the very least). I was getting it for muh new PC around Christmas time and was reading up on some work-arounds where you can buy only the upgrade and run that, get a full & fresh install, without having to upgrade from another full version of Windows.

My advice is, if you see an upgrade (for Home Premium, at the very least, don't go basic) on sale, pick it up. Make sure your computer can handle it.

Quaker · May 29, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

That's odd - I make new folders in Vista all the time and I've never come across a write-protect issue before.

Is it a known issue?

Yes, it's a known issue. The Command prompt Attrib thing was found as a result of Googling the problem. It was mentioned as a solution.

Perhaps it has something to do with the way you make a new folder and/or where the folder is located. If I open Windows Explorer and navigate to where I want a folder and right click and choose New>>Folder, the folder that is created is read-only and can't be changed.

What method are you using to make new folders. Is it part of some App, or just right-clicking, or...?

EDIT: on further checking, something seems to have been changed in some update or SP1. The folders are still marked as read-only, and can't be changed, but it doesn't seem to affect anything you put in it anymore.

Cyb3r · May 29, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

We'll do you run Vista as admin of you're pc Quaker (cause i know alot of prefab pc's are set up to set you up as less than admin) and vista has alot of handy options of blocking unwanted eyes out if you really want to (not as hefty as 2003 server (anyone want denied access to all stuff except notepad? possible for example) vista doesn't go that far but still has nice options

)

The only bad things i have to say about vista is the DRM which can be a hassle at times (not even preventing what it's supposed to do => lol => i mean cracked video's, blu ray and the other one had been cracked a couple of weeks after the release) and the nifty guard thing that in the end annoy's you so much you turn it off => my case, and those who don't develop the handiness of clicking through without reading the thing aka completely failing again at what it's supposed to do (i was affraid that would happen when i was in the beta for Vista)

for all the other reasons vista is nice, 64 bit is only worth the hassle if you want more than 4gb (trust me i know 2 apps which chew through 4gb like it's candy but that's another story) otherwhise stick with home premium 32bit that should provide enough for most of you're needs (basic is a joke not even worth the name vista)

Cyb3r · May 29, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

about linux yes it's a great os for alot of things (like running UT2K4 server in 64 bit at blazing speed (trust me got more than enough experience with that one

)
But linux still isn't for the masses even the most userfriendly ones seem a bit rough for the masses that's how it is till today it's getting better but still isn't there towards userfriendlyness