Curse

Gneppe · Nov 13, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Hey, i hope some of you can help me out on this one.

I recently changed my PSU and GFX to the better (620W, Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX+) Since that my computer has begund crashing during Guild Wars. I can play Warhammer Online without any problems but Guild Wars seems to crash more often. Even in Windowed mode my GW crashes.

My System
Intel Core Duo 2.13 Ghz
Geforce 9800GTX+
2 GB Ram
Windows XP Pro SP3
My old GFX ran GW stable and was a 7600 GT.
My Crash details:
I can go from a Website (Youtube listening to some music) and ALT+TAB into GW (Windowed) and my screen goes blank and says that it has lost its signal. I once tried to Run GW and Warhammer Online at the same time and the GFX temp was steady on 42 degrees.
I have not Overclocked anything at all and i use the newest Nvidia drivers. I play GW on highest detail but at Refresh Rate 60 hz.

Gneppe · Nov 14, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

BUMP / New Info

I can restart the pc. Start GW and walk out into isle of nameless and as soon as i do that my monitor will loose signal and i will have to reboot.

moriz · Nov 14, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

your card might be faulty, but it's really hard to know for certain.

did you completely remove the older video drivers before installing your new card? what is the brand of your new PSU? the more info you give us, the better we can diagnose the problem.

Gneppe · Nov 15, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Hi.

Yes i did completely remove my old GFX drivers, today i updated my chipset drivers which didnt help. My new PSU is a 650 W Energon PSU.
The wierd thing is that its only really GW that Crashes and i can easily make it crash by just walking out into Isle of Nameless and 5 secs later it crashes:S

moriz · Nov 15, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

does it crash in any other explorable, or is it just the isle of the nameless? if that's the case, you might just have a corrupted .dat file.

Gneppe · Nov 15, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

The Crash has also occured in GvGs. But i havent actually PvE'ed so i'll just go run around in PvE-land and see if i crash, if i dont i will delete the .dat file and dl a new one. If not i will post here again.

Gneppe · Nov 15, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

An update on my situation:
Deleting the Gw.dat file didnt solve my problem.

Elder III · Nov 16, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Do you have onboard graphics as well on your motherboard? If so you might try pulling the 9800 and trying GW without it.... if it runs ok (albeit slower) then it could be your GPU driver.... which version are you using???

Gneppe · Nov 16, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

No i shouldnt have an onboard GFX on my mainboard, I have reinstalled the Nvidia drivers 2 times now, i havent tried with older drivers actually.
I have noticed 1 thing, if i connect my Monitor with a DVI cable it seem to crash in more games than if i connect it with the older type of cable which name i've forgotten.

Drivers i have updated:
Nvidia drivers.
Mainboard drivers
Some sound drivers (Since i heard they could cause crashes)

But none of this helped.

papryk · Nov 22, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46

i have the same problem
my old gfx was 7600 GT now i have a gainward 9800 gtx+ and GW crashes
and only GW...so it's a bit weird

papryk · Nov 24, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Gneppe i have a question...whats's your MoBo, CPU model?

Gneppe · Nov 30, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Sorry Papryk i havent checked up on this issue since i kinda gave up on solving this. The problem still persists, i have reinstalled loads of drivers, contacted Nvidia support and PlayNC support. Nothing has been helping.

My Mobo is a Micro Star Model: MSI-P4M890. I dont know if the problem might be there.

Aluvard · Dec 01, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Hello, i got the same problem with my geforce 9800gtx+.

always some sekonds afther i enter the game, my monitor shows me no signal, and i cant do anything wit my computer.

So i think this could be a general problem for this graphics card.
i have conteacted the gw support but there was still no reply.

If anybody have any idea please let me know, im a bit rich and would spend some money on a solution. my payment is no money but i have some kuunavangs in a large amount...

greetz. blizz

Raku Clayman · Dec 01, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluvard

Hello, i got the same problem with my geforce 9800gtx+.

If anybody have any idea please let me know, im a bit rich and would spend some money on a solution. my payment is no money but i have some kuunavangs in a large amount...

greetz. blizz

When you said you were a bit rich, I was going to suggest switching to a Radeon 4800 series card. After years of just using Nvidia graphics cards, I switched to AMD and am very happy. I can run GW with all the graphics on full and it runs incredibly smooth.

I recently read an article that suggested upgrading to the latest drivers doesn't always make things better. I would try using slightly older drivers although I think, if I read the posts correctly, you already tried this.

Here's an obscure posibility: It could be possible that you don't have the latest Direct X package. Go directly to the MS site and download and reinstall the latest for your OS.

Aluvard · Dec 02, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raku Clayman

When you said you were a bit rich, I was going to suggest switching to a Radeon 4800 series card. After years of just using Nvidia graphics cards, I switched to AMD and am very happy. I can run GW with all the graphics on full and it runs incredibly smooth.

I recently read an article that suggested upgrading to the latest drivers doesn't always make things better. I would try using slightly older drivers although I think, if I read the posts correctly, you already tried this.

Here's an obscure posibility: It could be possible that you don't have the latest Direct X package. Go directly to the MS site and download and reinstall the latest for your OS.

youre Wrong all the way in my opinion.

1. i mean im a bit rich ingame, so for the solution of this problem, i would spend some money, you guess?
2. i have also the newest drivers on everything on my computer, and i also have the 9800gtx+
So i would say its a general problem on the graphicscard. im trying to contact the support, but they are kinda fool...
so, well i can play farcry2 over 5 hurs, without any problems, isnt this curious?

tomorrow ill recieve a new PSu, if the game then also wont start, it have to be the graphics card, there cant be any other solution!

Btw is your card also from GAINWARD? If yes, then i would say, that gainward have to check up their whole graphicscards from this line.
have to be an general problem.

On a german forum i alsohave created a thread abut this problem, well. ill see what happens^^

Quaker · Dec 02, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Try forcing the game to run in only one core. Search here, or on the internet for "ForceCore".

To test it to see if that would be a solution, start up GW. Hit ctrl-alt-del and start the Task Manager. In the "Processes" tab, find "gw,exe", right click on it and select "Affinity" (or "Set Affinity"). In there, uncheck all but one cpu, hit OK, close Task Manager and continue playing GW. If it doesn't crash, then you can use ForceCore to set the affinity automatically (it needs to be set each time you run GW).

Gneppe · Dec 02, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Oh someone with the same problem. How nice (Finally its not only me.)
I have had a looong support question by Nvidia and PlayNC.
Nvidia concluded that my card might be faulty, so i guess i will try another card.
My 9800GTX+ is a Palit i think. So not Gainward.

papryk · Dec 03, 2008, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluvard

youre Wrong all the way in my opinion.

1. i mean im a bit rich ingame, so for the solution of this problem, i would spend some money, you guess?
2. i have also the newest drivers on everything on my computer, and i also have the 9800gtx+
So i would say its a general problem on the graphicscard. im trying to contact the support, but they are kinda fool...
so, well i can play farcry2 over 5 hurs, without any problems, isnt this curious?

tomorrow ill recieve a new PSu, if the game then also wont start, it have to be the graphics card, there cant be any other solution!

Btw is your card also from GAINWARD? If yes, then i would say, that gainward have to check up their whole graphicscards from this line.
have to be an general problem.

On a german forum i alsohave created a thread abut this problem, well. ill see what happens^^

yep I have a gainward 9800gtx+
so there's 2 solutions:
-the problem is the gw engine
-the problem is Gainward that made a shit gfx...

so we have to spam their support :s

Raku Clayman · Dec 04, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

1) Aluvard, I realized you meant game rich. And, besides, I would never take anything for helping someone or making suggestions that might fix a problem.
2) An easy way to determine if it is a video card problem would be to borrow a friends video card and see if that card makes a difference.
3)When I upgraded my video card a couple of months ago, I'm glad I chose a Radeon, this time, instead of an Nvidia, which I've used for the past 10 years, or so. When I did buy Nvidia, I usually bought MSI or PNY because I've had good luck with their products.
4)If you do a search in all the Guru forums for "GTX+" you will see that there are a lot of complaints and various problems.
5)I hope you solve the problem without having to spend any more money and I am eagerly looking for you to post a successful solution.

Aluvard · Dec 05, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

So well, im writing the whole day with the support of GuildWars and Gainward....but still no solution..
ill try some other things, that may can help.
As soon as i find a solution ill open a big big thread to help other by this problem..
a bit crappy this all, but well shit happens^^