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Gun Pierson · Mar 18, 2009, 04:47 PM // 16:47

I'm wondering if the G11 keyboard and other gaming keyboards with extra keys will get you banned for using them?

I ordered one last week as it seems a good keyboard, but I don't want to get banned because Anet may think it's a bot program.

At first I didn't even give it much thought, but there was a post where someone got banned for using a bot program, while he said he only used the G11 keyboard. We don't know if he was using a bot program aswell or not at all. Nevertheless it would be nice to know if Anet knows about these keyboards and that they can spot the difference between a bot user and a G11 type keyboard user.

tasha · Mar 18, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

This has been discussed before and I believe the consensus was it depends how you're using it. If you're using it to play the game for you then that may be seen as bot behaviour warranting a ban. That means movement, weapon switches, skill usage etc. combinations. The person in the thread you're referring to said that the party involved was using one key press to enact a sequence of several key selections.

Anet will pick up on botting behaviour by frequently used combinations of key presses with no variation in the pattern. There is no randomness in the manner in which a bot "presses" keys - there's a fixed duration between the keys, or pauses while something happens. This isn't "human" behaviour (and by all means if you've been banned when not botting cos of this, kudos to you).

Entering frequently used text into chat seems fine (and thats all I use my G15 for when it comes to GW - /resign, /rank, trade spam messages) as does mapping a single keypress (ie skill 7 which should be key 7 is activated by pressing G6 orso).

GWEXTREEMFAN · Mar 18, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23

just don't use it in outposts and you'll do fine, a net cant tell if its botting or a g11...
just use common sense and you won't get banned

Gun Pierson · Mar 18, 2009, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Ok tx for the replies, I should have used the search function it seems. My conclusion is to use it like a normal keyboard and leave the extra keys aside alltogether if you want to take no risk at all.

riktw · Mar 18, 2009, 05:52 PM // 17:52

i have an keyboard with extra buttons, and i love it

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never got banned, use commen sense i guess.
but the power of hot key hero skills to your extra keys is holy.

Gun Pierson · Mar 18, 2009, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by riktw

but the power of hot key hero skills to your extra keys is holy.

Drool at that

TheodenKing · Mar 18, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Interestingly, there were hundreds (maybe thousands) of kurziks using macros for hfff out of lutgardis for months before anet nerfed the hfff.

I once went afk in altrumn ruins with my warrior. I came back to the computer after 10 minutes and the screen said I had been disconnected. When trying to log back in, got message that my account had been banned for using third party programs. I contacted support through the website and after about 8 hours my account was restored.

Apparently, they were banning the monk bot programs that were cycling through altrum ruins at that time, and my warrior happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 18, 2009, 07:46 PM // 19:46

constant repetitive zoning without taking breaks make u look like a botter. then u get reported. then u get investigated. just take a break every now and then.

Yarly · Mar 18, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

Interestingly, there were hundreds (maybe thousands) of kurziks using macros for hfff out of lutgardis for months before anet nerfed the hfff.

I once went afk in altrumn ruins with my warrior. I came back to the computer after 10 minutes and the screen said I had been disconnected. When trying to log back in, got message that my account had been banned for using third party programs. I contacted support through the website and after about 8 hours my account was restored.

Apparently, they were banning the monk bot programs that were cycling through altrum ruins at that time, and my warrior happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Haha. Good strategy from anet.

Problem: Bots in a district!

Solution: Ban the whole district!

Quality.

Snograt · Mar 18, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

A lot of people use the macro facility on G11/G15 keyboards with no problems. It's just a case of not overdoing it.

I suspect that ANet detect bots by looking through logs for long sequences of commands with precise intervals between them - a string of hero1skill1/hero1skill2/hero1skill3 etc. with an exact 5ms delay between commands is going to look very bot-like.

Just use your macros for very simple things. Apart from the usual F12-C, /age and other non-essential time savers, I have one macro key that triggers skill number one on all three heroes at the same time (think RoJ) - that's about as far as I'm going to go with automation.

Black Metal · Mar 19, 2009, 02:52 AM // 02:52

When I know I'm going to engage in bot-like behavior (generally farming raptors or vaettir bombing), I mix in a little guild/alliance chat, check my friends list, take a very fast break randomly, mouse over things in inventory, to break things up. I think that might help.

refer · Mar 19, 2009, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by tasha_darke

That means movement, weapon switches, skill usage etc. combinations.

which happens to defeat one of the main uses of the keys and turns them into copy/paste buttons.

Blackhearted · Mar 19, 2009, 12:41 PM // 12:41

I've set up a macro or two before on my g15 to handle tanking and killing some mobs while farming for me. All i did was move myself to where i needed to be and hit the button for it do the rest. I never got banned for it.

lewis91 · Mar 26, 2009, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

A lot of people use the macro facility on G11/G15 keyboards with no problems. It's just a case of not overdoing it.

I suspect that ANet detect bots by looking through logs for long sequences of commands with precise intervals between them - a string of hero1skill1/hero1skill2/hero1skill3 etc. with an exact 5ms delay between commands is going to look very bot-like.

Just use your macros for very simple things. Apart from the usual F12-C, /age and other non-essential time savers, I have one macro key that triggers skill number one on all three heroes at the same time (think RoJ) - that's about as far as I'm going to go with automation.

Ive been using macros to farm for a long time to but seing this i feel abit worried. I only use a macro to record "Space - f1 - space - f1 etc.." so it makes budger farming that much easier. So im wondering if this could result in a ban. I only rarely farm, and when i do, its usually for 30 minutes at most. So should i stop just being lazy n hit space and f1 a million times?

Notorious Bob · Mar 28, 2009, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Seeing as Anet actually gave away a G15 as a competition prize they (the G15) can't be all bad.

Also, Anet have repeatedly stated that a keyboard macro that simply repeats a key sequence is not botting.

:/