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vamperik · Jun 09, 2009, 03:23 PM // 15:23

hey hey .... I am about to put a clean install of windows Xp on my system and then upgrade it to Windows Vista premium .

Now my question ... is it better to update xp before the Vista upgrade or should I just upgrade without updating ...

maybe it will not matter wither way

Elder III · Jun 09, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34

go here and follow the instructions:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e-advisor.aspx

Raku Clayman · Jun 09, 2009, 04:00 PM // 16:00

I wouldn't buy Windows Vista. I would get the Release Candidate of Windows 7 available from Microsoft for free and do a clean install. It is good until March 2010 and it is far superior to Vista. I've been using it for a couple of months. Take the money that you save and purchase the retail version of Win 7 when it comes out in October.

lewis91 · Jun 09, 2009, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by Raku Clayman

I wouldn't buy Windows Vista. I would get the Release Candidate of Windows 7 available from Microsoft for free and do a clean install. It is good until March 2010 and it is far superior to Vista. I've been using it for a couple of months. Take the money that you save and purchase the retail version of Win 7 when it comes out in October.

I agree wholeheartidly with this. win7 is very good, and runs so much nicer than vista. And its valid for almost a full year so it'l give you time to buy win7

Snow Bunny · Jun 09, 2009, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Raku Clayman

I wouldn't buy Windows Vista. I would get the Release Candidate of Windows 7 available from Microsoft for free and do a clean install. It is good until March 2010 and it is far superior to Vista. I've been using it for a couple of months. Take the money that you save and purchase the retail version of Win 7 when it comes out in October.

Unless you were in my situation and got Vista for free, and you don't want your OS bugging out on you during the school year.

vamperik · Jun 09, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Unless you were in my situation and got Vista for free, and you don't want your OS bugging out on you during the school year.

yer I already have the Vista upgrade disc and I might consider running 7 on another partition .... but still need to know if its better to download and installl all the updates on XP before running the Vista upgrade disc.

kousei · Jun 09, 2009, 06:18 PM // 18:18

go straight for the vista upgrade - if you're doing a clean install then drop XP on the machine and as soon as you can do the vista upgrade

Bob Slydell · Jun 09, 2009, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I would never upgrade an OS, a clean install of a genuine OS is always the best, and I wouldn't go for Vista at this time either with Windows 7 approaching.

citizensmith1001 · Jun 09, 2009, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Raku Clayman

I wouldn't buy Windows Vista. I would get the Release Candidate of Windows 7 available from Microsoft for free and do a clean install. It is good until March 2010 and it is far superior to Vista. I've been using it for a couple of months. Take the money that you save and purchase the retail version of Win 7 when it comes out in October.

This ^ follow the link that i will put below and you can download the Beta version of Windows 7 and use it totally free until next year ,Vista is just a waste of money at this point imho.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

refer · Jun 09, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I would wait for 7 too. Do you really NEED to ditch XP right now? Just because you have a free upgrade doesn't' mean it has to be used.

Raku Clayman · Jun 09, 2009, 07:31 PM // 19:31

I actually am doing a dual boot with Windows XP and Win 7. I installed GW on a separate partition on XP. After I installed Win 7, all I did was create a shortcut to the GW exe and it plays fantastically in Win 7. The one thing I had to do is create a build folder and copy the contents from Win XP to Win 7 so I could access my builds when I played from Win 7.

I don't consider Vista an upgrade from XP SP3. Windows 7 is a huge upgrade from XP. You have to install Windows 7 as a clean install and I would suggest trying it out on a separate partition.

One cool feature of Windows 7 that I've been meaning to try is that you can download a virtual Windows XP that runs in Windows 7. You can install all your programs and games in that virtual environment and create shortcuts on your Win 7 desktop that you can access without firing up the virtual OS. If you want, you could keep Windows 7 pristine and install all your programs, games, security software, etc. on that virtual OS. You just need to use your Windows XP serial #.

Tarun · Jun 09, 2009, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Windows 7 is a Release Candidate and is time limited.

If your system hardware supports the requirements for Vista, it is very worth upgrading to.

As mentioned, a clean install is the best. Just back up your data, format and install Vista, then update to SP2.

Snow Bunny · Jun 09, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Windows 7 is a Release Candidate and is time limited.

If your system hardware supports the requirements for Vista, it is very worth upgrading to.

As mentioned, a clean install is the best. Just back up your data, format and install Vista, then update to SP2.

I clean installed the first time I installed Vista and it didn't support my drivers at all, to the extent that I couldn't install the wireless drivers to try to update them.

I did a clean install of XP, completely wiping the C: partition, with everything necessary (drivers, documents, 15gb of music) backed up on my D: drive, then upgraded to Vista.

Also, why SP2? I've checked around on tech forums (not much of a tech guy myself at all, but I try to keep myself informed) and all it seemed was a bunch of unnecessary additions that would take up space, in contrast to SP1, which streamlined the OS.

As for W7 being time limited, that's the primary factor preventing me personally from upgrading. I got vista free, and with the W7 RC beginning its "denial of service" effects March 2010, I decided that I'd prefer my computer to not bug out on me right before Finals period, and I didn't want to shelve out $100-$300 for a new OS when I have vista for free.

But that's just my perspective, don't know if the OP's in a similar situation.

Tarun · Jun 10, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Not sure what your hardware is, but for me and my four year old pc, everything worked. If I need drivers they're easy to find (from the manufacturer) and install. Especially with how long Vista has been out. I have a feeling if Vista didn't support the drivers, it was because the drivers were not made properly for Vista. Same thing would happen on x64 systems.

SP2 is the latest service pack and offers many improvements. There's no reason not to get it on your system. Not sure what you checked, but many tech sites report that people said SP2 reduced disk space usage, especially after using compcln.exe

I'd like to hear what drivers (plus hardware and manufacturer), along with what is supposedly so bad about Vista SP2 (including what forums have said such rubbish).

Elephantaliste · Jun 10, 2009, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by vamperik

Now my question ... is it better to update xp before the Vista upgrade or should I just upgrade without updating ...

No, you should update without upgrading...

Rasco · Jun 10, 2009, 01:39 AM // 01:39

You'll regret it

Takes a while to get vista "stable" and running smoothly. Has the worst out of the box performance.

moriz · Jun 10, 2009, 02:11 AM // 02:11

strange, i've never had these stability and performance problems with vista x64. in fact, when i first installed it, i was running WITHOUT SP1 for well over two months, and had none of the problems other people were having.

Snow Bunny · Jun 10, 2009, 07:04 AM // 07:04

hey uh, just realized this and figured this was a decent thread to ask this.

it turns out that the copy my school gives out is Enterprise...looked it up and apparently it's not for "mere mortals".

Is there any significant difference in terms of ease between ultimate/business/enterprise?

It's already installed, etc, just wondering. I have lots of time to burn these days in anticipation of a trip, so out of sheer boredom I'm considering reinstalling the whole bloody OS as a clean install for round 2 instead of the upgrade from xp.

Rasco · Jun 10, 2009, 07:36 AM // 07:36

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

hey uh, just realized this and figured this was a decent thread to ask this.

it turns out that the copy my school gives out is Enterprise...looked it up and apparently it's not for "mere mortals".

Is there any significant difference in terms of ease between ultimate/business/enterprise?

It's already installed, etc, just wondering. I have lots of time to burn these days in anticipation of a trip, so out of sheer boredom I'm considering reinstalling the whole bloody OS as a clean install for round 2 instead of the upgrade from xp.

Here's a decent comparison of editions of vista. Looks like enterprise is missing all the media features of Home Premium. Im sure 3rd party could replace Windows Media Center and Movie Maker :P