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Tamuril elansar · Jul 14, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

will their come a Nvidia chipset for nehalem? cuz i've read that Nvidia will give Intel rights to sli and Nvidia won't make any chipset for nehalem.

Lord Sojar · Jul 14, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar

will their come a Nvidia chipset for nehalem? cuz i've read that Nvidia will give Intel rights to sli and Nvidia won't make any chipset for nehalem.

No comment. Would if I could. But, I will say that if you actually think we will give that juggernaut full rights to SLi, you might want to take a closer look at our CEO. lol.

Snograt · Jul 14, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Jen-Hsun Huang - bio on Wired http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.07/Nvidia.html (he used to work for AMD oO)

Yeah, I did discover that eVGA's step-up program doesn't apply to the good stuff :/

I just hope I have cash when the good good stuff arrives in 2010/11.

zamial · Jul 15, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

The hopeing for cash for "stuff" in 2+ years, to me, seems a bit silly. Hardware has always been pretty far ahead of the software (that is a good thing)

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As for me I have 2 more systems to build, my WHS and my "future" comp. I want a newer comp than what I have, the girl will get my old 1. The WHS will built on old technology with new hard drives. I decided long ago that I will never be on "the bleeding edge" of hardware. I can however, get close to it. The closer you are the more money you loose, as computers seem to have the opposite effect as a fine wine. Ideally, the future comp will be a evga FTW mobo and a nahalm chip. (in my new case currently under construction

)

The problem being, the eternal question, "What are you going to use it for?"
Seriously, you are not going to blow $3000.00+ to play a free online game that won't come close to needing that kind of power to play at max. Are we hoping for an even better game, sure, but still that is a massive waste. Sure, it is a fun Idea to be an "enthusiast" but you need a real reason for an upgrade. Our systems are fairly similar and I will be willing to bet that with minor upgrades (if any at all), those systems will be able to play any game that comes out for the next 5 years, maybe not at max.

Every day more people load up Vista at there homes and like it *shock* *gasp*. Which is going to put more pressure on companies to upgrade. I do understand that being an IT proffesional we do need to stay current.

The best answer for the above question, In my opinon, would be "I have a sponsor." OR "I am a proffesional gamer/benchmark tech.". Untill we can say those things we really need to set a limit and be happy

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As far as hardware technology goes, 2-3 years may as well be a million. The software for main stream users will take that long just to catch up. By that time I suspect a 128 bit windows OS as well.

BTW are you stable now?

Snograt · Jul 15, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Yes thanks - stable as a table.

By the way, I did spend £3200 on a PC to play Guild Wars on. Yes, that's £ not $. GW was my primary concern, but I wanted a top notch system to enable me to do whatever I wanted in future. I wanted the ability to run anything I liked at the highest resolutions and settings. I pretty much achieved that, everything now is hobbyist tweaking.

Ye gods, though - $6000+ on gaming; it's not like I'm wealthy, either :/

I think, in my case, it's sort of e-peen, but not quite. I want to have the best (or very high, at least) even if I don't need it. I just love having a high end PC. Been in love with computers ever since high school, where we had some archaic bit of kit that was programmed with punch-hole tape. the dawn of computing ^^

Snograt · Jul 31, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 3200.0 MHz (original: 2667 MHz, overclock: 20%)
CPU Multiplier 8x
CPU FSB 400.0 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 50%)
Memory Bus 400.0 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio 1:1
Temperatures:
Motherboard 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 77 °C (171 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 74 °C (165 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 67 °C (153 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 69 °C (156 °F)
MCP 72 °C (162 °F)
GPU1: GPU 70 °C (158 °F)
GPU2: GPU 77 °C (171 °F)

Ok, turning PC off now. That's hotter than the damn sun

Away from PC until Tuesday, updates on return.

moriz · Jul 31, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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Originally Posted by Snograt

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 3200.0 MHz (original: 2667 MHz, overclock: 20%)
CPU Multiplier 8x
CPU FSB 400.0 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 50%)
Memory Bus 400.0 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio 1:1
Temperatures:
Motherboard 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 77 °C (171 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 74 °C (165 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 67 °C (153 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 69 °C (156 °F)
MCP 72 °C (162 °F)
GPU1: GPU 70 °C (158 °F)
GPU2: GPU 77 °C (171 °F)

Ok, turning PC off now. That's hotter than the damn sun

Away from PC until Tuesday, updates on return.

Dark Kal · Aug 01, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 3200.0 MHz (original: 2667 MHz, overclock: 20%)
CPU Multiplier 8x
CPU FSB 400.0 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 50%)
Memory Bus 400.0 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio 1:1
Temperatures:
Motherboard 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 77 °C (171 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 74 °C (165 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 67 °C (153 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 69 °C (156 °F)
MCP 72 °C (162 °F)
GPU1: GPU 70 °C (158 °F)
GPU2: GPU 77 °C (171 °F)

Ok, turning PC off now. That's hotter than the damn sun

Away from PC until Tuesday, updates on return.

Maybe we should have a pool about how long it would take for your system to burn out?

zamial · Aug 01, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Maybe we should have a pool about how long it would take for your system to burn out?

I had a lol at this. Thanks Kal.
The deal is, with how fast a computer goes from bleeding edge/near bleeding edge to obsolete, why not overclock? You get better performance for a shorter lifespan, by the time a properly oced computer "burns out" It is more than likely obsolete anyways. 70c is a touch to high but that can be resolved as well..

moriz · Aug 01, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

problem is, his CPU idles at a higher temperature than mine at full load (after 14 hours to boot).

that most certainly can't be healthy, especially given how powerful that chip is. it won't be obsolete for a long time... assuming it lasts that long.

zamial · Aug 01, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

in about 2.5 more years it will be old. But the question is will the software be able to keep up. I do agree 100% that 70c is to hot.

Macs have been using a 128 bit os for awhile now. when the windows 128 bit os and chips come out........

Lord Sojar · Aug 01, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

you are confusing logic with process threads. 64bit is the current technology for processors as far as logic is concerned.

Snog, you have got to cool down that core2. It is going to be damaged soon at those temperatures. Those delicate Intel fabs cannot handle that type of heat.

Snograt · Aug 04, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

<back from Ma's>

Dunno what caused that sudden leap in temperature - I know we're going through a warm period (as far a Britain goes) but 25C ambient temperature shouldn't cause a raise like that.

Drop down to a 7x multi, see what that does :/

Dark Kal · Aug 05, 2008, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Dunno what caused that sudden leap in temperature

You overclocking it?

Snograt · Aug 05, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Yes, I know - but it's been running stable with those settings for a few weeks. This jump to astronomical temps is very recent - almost as if the fan on the Tuniq Tower 120 had stopped working - which it hasn't.

I've reverted to "automatic" settings and it's settled down to ~54C (idle :/)

The Muffen Man · Aug 05, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Yes, I know - but it's been running stable with those settings for a few weeks. This jump to astronomical temps is very recent - almost as if the fan on the Tuniq Tower 120 had stopped working - which it hasn't.

I've reverted to "automatic" settings and it's settled down to ~54C (idle :/)

54c at idle is still way to hot.

I have my q6600 oced to 3.4 and it idles from 32-38 using an arctic cooler pro 7 in an antec 900 case with hd 4870 in crossfire and those bad boys idle at around 77c

Did you put on the cpu cooler? Maybe you should have a look at it, it might have been dislodged.

Though atm im without my new pc one of the corsair ram sticks packed it in and called it a day.

Kattar · Aug 05, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Sitting here, doing nothing, my GPU idles at 72c. It's a wonder my laptop hasn't burst into flames yet.

Lord Sojar · Aug 05, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Katsumi

Sitting here, doing nothing, my GPU idles at 72c. It's a wonder my laptop hasn't burst into flames yet.

Sweet mother of god...

Snoggy, your CPU has thermal leaks. That is the only explanation for it. RMA the CPU to Intel, and they will replace it.

Snograt · Aug 06, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56

My QX is over 18 months old, came in a pre-built system from a now-defunct company.

Maybe I should start saving pennies for Nehalem.

LOTS of pennies :/

Lord Sojar · Aug 06, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

My QX is over 18 months old, came in a pre-built system from a now-defunct company.

Maybe I should start saving pennies for Nehalem.

LOTS of pennies :/

Nehalem won't be too pricey, don't worry. Save about 500 pounds, maybe 600 for a really nice Nehalem setup. Then again, you will need DDR3 (which is thankfully dropping in price pretty quickly)