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dark horni worm · Aug 22, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

here's the deal: i have this motherboard (http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=...5&maincat_no=1) -> crap, i know don't remind me...
and an atlantis radeon 9800 pro 128mb agp card

its the best card available for this mobo
it's a temporary solution, but my mobo won't take this graphic card.
i get a black screen and a weird sound (beeping) when i start my pc up. i'm pretty sure this card is compatible with this mobo, but it won't take it.
any possible solutions / causes of this problem?

i got the card on ebay for like 20$ so that could be the problem. i have a 350w psu.

thx

moriz · Aug 22, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

well, either the card is bad, or you're not giving it enough power.

where did you get this card, and how much wattage is your PSU?

The Meth · Aug 22, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Whats the weird sound? Beeping?

Does the computer start up fine with no video card plugged in?

Can you test the video card out on another system? Can you test another video card out on this system?

EDIT: Also, the FAQ for the motherboard on the site you linked to specifically states NOT to have integrated graphics enabled while using a video card. That could be the cause of your troubles. If you know how you might want to go into the BIOS and try disabling the integrated graphics. Make sure you know how to reset the BIOS if it doesn't work though, otherwise you will be stuck without any display at all.

BTW the 9800 isn't the best AGP card available. The last AGP cards I believe were the Radeon X800s and the Geforce 7800s.

moriz · Aug 22, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

well, the best AGP card is actually the HD3850.

tbh though, there won't be a whole lot of difference, since the OP is running a pentium 4. the CPU will begin to bottleneck performance long before the cards are maxed out.

Quaker · Aug 22, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

So, given what The Meth said, here's what you should do:

Take out the ATI card. Start up the computer. Keep hitting DEL as it starts up, until the BIOS screen comes up. Note: DEL is the most common key for aftermarket mobos, but it could be some other key - check the manual or visit MSI's website.

Once you are in the BIOS, find the place where you can disable the on board video. Disable it and exit the BIOS - save the settings. The computer will try to reboot, but has no video, so just turn it off. (Wait for it to reboot before turning it off though, to make sure the BIOS settings are saved.

Plug in the ATI card and restart. (Be sure to plug the monitor into the ATI card, not the on-board graphics connector)
If you still get beeps and/or a black screen, the video card could be bad.

The Meth · Aug 22, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

So, given what The Meth said, here's what you should do:

Take out the ATI card. Start up the computer. Keep hitting DEL as it starts up, until the BIOS screen comes up. Note: DEL is the most common key for aftermarket mobos, but it could be some other key - check the manual or visit MSI's website.

Once you are in the BIOS, find the place where you can disable the on board video. Disable it and exit the BIOS - save the settings. The computer will try to reboot, but has no video, so just turn it off. (Wait for it to reboot before turning it off though, to make sure the BIOS settings are saved.

Plug in the ATI card and restart. (Be sure to plug the monitor into the ATI card, not the on-board graphics connector)
If you still get beeps and/or a black screen, the video card could be bad.

But as I said, make sure you know how to reset the BIOS manually. Otherwise if the video card really IS the problem you will be left with the onboard video off and no way to get back into BIOS to turn it on. There should be a jumper setting detailed in the motherboard manual that will reset the factory default BIOS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

well, the best AGP card is actually the HD3850.

tbh though, there won't be a whole lot of difference, since the OP is running a pentium 4. the CPU will begin to bottleneck performance long before the cards are maxed out.

ahh, haven't kept up with radeon cards since the 9x00 series. I still even have the habit of calling them ATI cards. You are right that anything that high would be pretty much a waste, but I expect around a radeon x800 or a geforce 6800 could be fully utilized on a highly clocked pentium 4 system. Its probably a better idea to save up for a complete system upgrade though, dual core based systems are going to become important pretty soon so spending money to upgrade an outdated system could be a bad idea.