Mar 24, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14
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Ascalonian Squire
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how you know if pci or agp. both?
as far as i knwo i have agp but how you know if you can get pci. diff?
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Mar 24, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: communist state of NJ
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PCI is where your sound card goes and your network card is plugged in. It is usually white. AGP is on top of the PCI slots and ofsett. If your motherboard has AGP then that is the type of card that you should get.
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Mar 24, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31
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Underworld Spelunker
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i think he is refering to he new PCI-EXPRESS video cards as the old pci video cards without agp are a vanishing breed
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Mar 25, 2005, 04:36 PM // 16:36
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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As far as I know, Intel is the only one that supports PCI-Express atm... I could be wrong, havent checked in a while. I do know that PCI and AGP vcards arent that different. PCI tops AGP by a few fps (meaning 1-3 max).
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Mar 26, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: I am in a transitional period.
Guild: GRE
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Please rephrase the question.
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Mar 26, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03
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Underworld Spelunker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmxru
As far as I know, Intel is the only one that supports PCI-Express atm... I could be wrong, havent checked in a while. I do know that PCI and AGP vcards arent that different. PCI tops AGP by a few fps (meaning 1-3 max).
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do you mean PCI or PCI-EXPRESS on that
i think the nforce 4 mb supports PCI-EXPRESS for amd
edit
confirmed it does
Last edited by Loviatar; Mar 26, 2005 at 01:06 AM // 01:06..
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Mar 26, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Seattle, Washington
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmxru
As far as I know, Intel is the only one that supports PCI-Express atm... I could be wrong, havent checked in a while. I do know that PCI and AGP vcards arent that different. PCI tops AGP by a few fps (meaning 1-3 max).
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You are very wrong.
Amd can have around 5 or so PCI-Express, 2 of which are at x16 for video cards.
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Mar 28, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lews
You are very wrong.
Amd can have around 5 or so PCI-Express, 2 of which are at x16 for video cards.
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Yeah I know im wrong, just checked with recent updates, well i do know that my comp wont support pci-express, i use amd (only reason i know this is because when i was trying to get 6600GT for pci-express, i remember I called for support, and they DID tell me pci-express isnt supported for amd, Newegg told me this). sorry for the wrong explanation.
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Mar 28, 2005, 07:35 PM // 19:35
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: communist state of NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmxru
Yeah I know im wrong, just checked with recent updates, well i do know that my comp wont support pci-express, i use amd (only reason i know this is because when i was trying to get 6600GT for pci-express, i remember I called for support, and they DID tell me pci-express isnt supported for amd, Newegg told me this). sorry for the wrong explanation.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/motherbo...323/index.html
This board supports it. In duel mode too. So AMD does have support for PCIxpress.
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Mar 31, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Joint :p
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In reply to the poster's question....ahem
Staindreality you might try contacting the manufacturer, or looking in the manual for your computer there may be information there about it. If your computer is a name brand I am sure you can get help with this very quickly from their support. If you are asking to see what card interface is better I'd suggest checking with the company for what you have exactly as to if it's pci, agp, or pci-express as that would help. Right now too little information in your post to form an opinion.
cheers
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Apr 01, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: in a house
Guild: Phantom Menace
Profession: W/Mo
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I just read that it's simply cheaper to make pci express over agp (by a few pennies, but a few pennies is a lot today), and that the profile is easier to make in half-height than agp.
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Apr 01, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Illnois
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i have a pci express and an amd go figure lol Oh God can i be the norm for once
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Apr 01, 2005, 07:26 AM // 07:26
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Guild: Knights Templar
Profession: W/E
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wait,wait, so you guys are saying, get a PCI-EXPRESS over a geforce/ATI readon 256 or whatnot?
err nevermind, im just stupid..
Last edited by JjK; Apr 01, 2005 at 07:29 AM // 07:29..
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Apr 01, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JjK
wait,wait, so you guys are saying, get a PCI-EXPRESS over a geforce/ATI readon 256 or whatnot?
err nevermind, im just stupid..
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First, IMXRU, it's not your fault... what you read was about the Intel Chipset... they made an announcement that they will no longer be manufacturing AGP, only PCI-X. That is easy to misconstrue.
Second, PCI-Express over AGP is not cheaper to manufacture, BUT replacing two seperate bus lines (PCI and AGP) with MUX bus IS cheaper. Basically, PCI-Express has twice as many connections but mass manufacturing it will be easier and cheaper when it replaces everything on the motherboard.
Third, there is currently no performance boost over AGP, they haven't used the entire bandwidth of AGP yet so how is PCI-Express (more bandwidth) going to have better performance? It doesn't (if someone finds different, tell me, so far I've seen insignificant gain/losses). Once again though, look to the future, when video cards exceed the limitations of AGP, we've already got a higher bandwidth bus, so their hoping ot make the transition easier by introducing it now.
Lansing Kai Don
P.S. To tell the difference between AGP and PCI-Express, is really simple (PCI- Express has one "row" of connections in a row along the card edge where, AGP has two connections, one slightly offset and raised above the first row). This shows the difference in implementation, where PCI-Express resembles a serial connection and AGP resembles a parallel.
Last edited by Lansing Kai Don; Apr 01, 2005 at 06:10 PM // 18:10..
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