New "value" rating + ID kits - Guild Wars Forums

Dragou Du Porzan · Feb 18, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I notice that some items now have a value rating. What is this supposed to indicate exactly? It doesn't seem to be how much it's worth to sell, since e.g. I have an identification kit that's "value:40" but only returns 20 gold when I sell it to the outfitter. Is it just an aproximation of how much it's worth in trade?

And speaking of the identification kit, is that the only way to check out "unidentified" items? At 40 gold for 5 identifies (or 20 gold for 4 if you sell the kit with 1 use remaining) that's going to get expensive very fast. Is it worth it to ID everything, or are you better of just selling/salvaging without IDing in most cases?

Deadroot · Feb 18, 2005, 11:54 PM // 23:54

I'm not too sure on the whole Value thing.

As for the ID thing, those kits are the only way to ID an item as far as I know. Not a very good system, at least not yet. Let me know if you find a different way to ID things (like an NPC).

Dragou Du Porzan · Feb 19, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Seems to me like it's a bit of an artifical money sink. Until I understand the system a bit more, I'm probably going to hold of on IDing any items unless they look like something I could use right away. If I figure something else about this or the value rating, I'll post here.

Deadroot · Feb 19, 2005, 01:02 AM // 01:02

I didn't mention it before and don't know if it holds true anymore, but salvage items sometimes need IDing (especially the rare ones). They don't offer any special bonuses by IDing them, but if you are trying to get a rune out of them you need to ID it first. You can still salvage unidentified items if you want.

Dragou Du Porzan · Feb 19, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

That's good to know. Thanks Deadroot! And just to reiterate (though most of you probably know this trick already): sell the kit back with 1 use left to get half its value. That effectively makes each kit 20GP for 4 uses.

Fythux · Feb 19, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47

You can't salvage the regular items (not gear) you get from mobs (that don't say salvagable item). In order for me to even sell them, I had to identify them. It's good to know that the Ident. kits do actually have a useful purposes (i.e. runes).

Deadroot · Feb 19, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Can't salvage or sell weapons/sheilds/focus items without IDing them? That's interesting, and certainly new. Pretty annoying as well since you can't make any money off selling items since you will be hard pressed to find 5 items that you can ID and sell that will even cover the 40 gold of the ID kit you used on them. Or did they up the selling price of most items?

Reaper2k3 · Feb 19, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by Deadroot

Can't salvage or sell weapons/sheilds/focus items without IDing them? That's interesting, and certainly new. Pretty annoying as well since you can't make any money off selling items since you will be hard pressed to find 5 items that you can ID and sell that will even cover the 40 gold of the ID kit you used on them. Or did they up the selling price of most items?

hell, i think they downed the price because precious items used to sell for 2 gold

Keramon · Feb 19, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

Don't you just love the equity ....

Precious Items = 2G
to make a Level 20 Armour Piece 150G + Rare Crafting Material + Common Material = with things like Steel costing 25g each ...

But then again ... I don't think this is really awful since armour should cost alot ... still ... it makes it tough in the BPE.

Feb 18, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#1
Dragou Du Porzan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Profession: Mo/	New "value" rating + ID kits I notice that some items now have a value rating. What is this supposed to indicate exactly? It doesn't seem to be how much it's worth to sell, since e.g. I have an identification kit that's "value:40" but only returns 20 gold when I sell it to the outfitter. Is it just an aproximation of how much it's worth in trade? And speaking of the identification kit, is that the only way to check out "unidentified" items? At 40 gold for 5 identifies (or 20 gold for 4 if you sell the kit with 1 use remaining) that's going to get expensive very fast. Is it worth it to ID everything, or are you better of just selling/salvaging without IDing in most cases?

Feb 19, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02	#9
Keramon Rogue Agent Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Surfers Paradise	Don't you just love the equity .... Precious Items = 2G to make a Level 20 Armour Piece 150G + Rare Crafting Material + Common Material = with things like Steel costing 25g each ... But then again ... I don't think this is really awful since armour should cost alot ... still ... it makes it tough in the BPE. __________________ Keramon :cool:

Feb 18, 2005, 11:54 PM // 23:54	#2
Deadroot Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: N/R	I'm not too sure on the whole Value thing. As for the ID thing, those kits are the only way to ID an item as far as I know. Not a very good system, at least not yet. Let me know if you find a different way to ID things (like an NPC).

Feb 19, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#3
Dragou Du Porzan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Profession: Mo/	Seems to me like it's a bit of an artifical money sink. Until I understand the system a bit more, I'm probably going to hold of on IDing any items unless they look like something I could use right away. If I figure something else about this or the value rating, I'll post here.

Feb 19, 2005, 01:02 AM // 01:02	#4
Deadroot Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: N/R	I didn't mention it before and don't know if it holds true anymore, but salvage items sometimes need IDing (especially the rare ones). They don't offer any special bonuses by IDing them, but if you are trying to get a rune out of them you need to ID it first. You can still salvage unidentified items if you want.

Feb 19, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#5
Dragou Du Porzan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Profession: Mo/	That's good to know. Thanks Deadroot! And just to reiterate (though most of you probably know this trick already): sell the kit back with 1 use left to get half its value. That effectively makes each kit 20GP for 4 uses.

Feb 19, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47	#6
Fythux Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2005	You can't salvage the regular items (not gear) you get from mobs (that don't say salvagable item). In order for me to even sell them, I had to identify them. It's good to know that the Ident. kits do actually have a useful purposes (i.e. runes).

Feb 19, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14	#7
Deadroot Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: N/R	Can't salvage or sell weapons/sheilds/focus items without IDing them? That's interesting, and certainly new. Pretty annoying as well since you can't make any money off selling items since you will be hard pressed to find 5 items that you can ID and sell that will even cover the 40 gold of the ID kit you used on them. Or did they up the selling price of most items?