Conjure Element with Troll Unguent - Guild Wars Forums

Duality · Feb 25, 2005, 03:21 AM // 03:21

I haven't found this question anywhere else.

With Conjure <element> it says that you lose all enchantments. Troll Unguent isn't considered an enchantment correct? Can it also be affected by Shatter Enchantment? Is there anything that could remove Troll Unguent from a player?

Ensign · Feb 25, 2005, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Troll Unguent is a skill. It isn't affected by anything that just hits spells, enchantments, hexes, stances, or any other category other than 'skills'. There is no way to remove Troll Unguent once it has been cast and is in effect. The best defense against Troll Unguent is to realize that you're playing against someone who uses Troll Unguent, and kill him during the 10,000 seconds it takes to activate.

Peace,
-CxE

Duality · Feb 25, 2005, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Ensign

The best defense against Troll Unguent is to realize that you're playing against someone who uses Troll Unguent, and kill him during the 10,000 seconds it takes to activate.

or sic the warriors with those damn life stealing hammers on them eh?

Ensign · Feb 25, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Hammer Warriors vs. Troll Unguent - episode IV of "Tales from the Loser's Bracket".

"I thought I had him - he was just sitting there waving his arms around, doing nothing - but I just couldn't hit him in time! Stupid slow weapons! Finally he stopped wiggling around, and cast...I don't know what he cast. It didn't do anything. So I hit him with my hammer. It was awesome. Then he started running, because he's a Ranger with Troll Unguent. I tried to slow him down, but then I realized I'm a $%#&%$^ Hammer Warrior and don't have anything to do that with, and that my knockdown skills won't be online for another 15 seconds..."

Peace,
-CxE

DM00 · Mar 01, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54

I found that alot of the bosses had troll unguent, and it certainly didn't take 10,000 seconds for them to activate it. Some boss battles I fought took lots of time, because as I was damaging him, he regenerated all his HP, even though with my monk, 3 skills could knock him down 70-80 points. He cast it every 4-5 seconds.

Devil's Dictionary · Mar 01, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by DM00

I found that alot of the bosses had troll unguent, and it certainly didn't take 10,000 seconds for them to activate it. Some boss battles I fought took lots of time, because as I was damaging him, he regenerated all his HP, even though with my monk, 3 skills could knock him down 70-80 points. He cast it every 4-5 seconds.

Troll Unguent
originally Published by Spooky
Description: For 10 seconds, you gain health regeneration +3-9.
Energy Cost: 5
Casting Time: 3 seconds
Recharge Time: 10 seconds
Skill Type: Skill
Linked Attribute: Wilderness Survival

Taken from the wonderful and limitless skill section of the Guru website.

Now not only a boss can't cast it ever 4-5 seconds (as it has a recharge time of 10 seconds) but health regenerationof +3-9 is not that much to brag about.

Freyas · Mar 02, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

Now not only a boss can't cast it ever 4-5 seconds (as it has a recharge time of 10 seconds) but health regenerationof +3-9 is not that much to brag about.

Actually, health regeneration of 9 is pretty decent versus most single sources of damage. This gives 18 health every second- meaning that it will gain you health while you've got a warrior attacking you, so long as they're not using damage buffs or high-damage skills. Even if they are, you're essentially removing their weapon damage with it. Combined with evasive stances, it can make a ranger quite difficult to kill- if it didn't have a 3-second cast time, it would be an extremely powerful healing spell, and even as it is, it's easily the most useful of the non-monk healing skills.

Shrapnel_Magnet · Mar 02, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I dunno, I'm with Ensign when he exaggerates the casting time of 3 seconds. In PvE, it's perfectly logical to have it, but I found that 3 seconds can be a LONG time to wait, especially if you're on low health (which usually means that at least ONE person is coming for you).

Is that my error for leaving it too late? Maybe... but still, 3 seconds is tolerable if you're casting a crazy spell that will cause the enemy team to scatter... not for my single self-healing spell that I may need to survive.

Overall, I think it's a useful skill, but I wouldn't put points into Wilderness Survival just to take it, that's for sure.

Ensign · Mar 02, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Remember that Troll Unguent has an aftercast as well. You're really devoting 3.75 seconds to that cast, and that's a huge chunk of time for a skill that does nothing upon being cast. It's something that's fine to run in PvE, where any healing is useful, but I wouldn't even think about touching it in PvP. It's just too slow.

Peace,
-CxE

Feb 25, 2005, 03:21 AM // 03:21	#1
Duality Ub3r Pro0fr34d3r Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Guild: Girl Power	Conjure Element with Troll Unguent I haven't found this question anywhere else. With Conjure <element> it says that you lose all enchantments. Troll Unguent isn't considered an enchantment correct? Can it also be affected by Shatter Enchantment? Is there anything that could remove Troll Unguent from a player?

Feb 25, 2005, 03:27 AM // 03:27	#2
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Troll Unguent is a skill. It isn't affected by anything that just hits spells, enchantments, hexes, stances, or any other category other than 'skills'. There is no way to remove Troll Unguent once it has been cast and is in effect. The best defense against Troll Unguent is to realize that you're playing against someone who uses Troll Unguent, and kill him during the 10,000 seconds it takes to activate. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Feb 25, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50	#4
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Hammer Warriors vs. Troll Unguent - episode IV of "Tales from the Loser's Bracket". "I thought I had him - he was just sitting there waving his arms around, doing nothing - but I just couldn't hit him in time! Stupid slow weapons! Finally he stopped wiggling around, and cast...I don't know what he cast. It didn't do anything. So I hit him with my hammer. It was awesome. Then he started running, because he's a Ranger with Troll Unguent. I tried to slow him down, but then I realized I'm a $%#&%$^ Hammer Warrior and don't have anything to do that with, and that my knockdown skills won't be online for another 15 seconds..." Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Mar 01, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54	#5
DM00 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2005	Troll Unguent I found that alot of the bosses had troll unguent, and it certainly didn't take 10,000 seconds for them to activate it. Some boss battles I fought took lots of time, because as I was damaging him, he regenerated all his HP, even though with my monk, 3 skills could knock him down 70-80 points. He cast it every 4-5 seconds.

Mar 02, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54	#8
Shrapnel_Magnet Pirate? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Guild: Idiot Savants Profession: R/	I dunno, I'm with Ensign when he exaggerates the casting time of 3 seconds. In PvE, it's perfectly logical to have it, but I found that 3 seconds can be a LONG time to wait, especially if you're on low health (which usually means that at least ONE person is coming for you). Is that my error for leaving it too late? Maybe... but still, 3 seconds is tolerable if you're casting a crazy spell that will cause the enemy team to scatter... not for my single self-healing spell that I may need to survive. Overall, I think it's a useful skill, but I wouldn't put points into Wilderness Survival just to take it, that's for sure. __________________ Show Some Beta Love!

Mar 02, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13	#9
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Remember that Troll Unguent has an aftercast as well. You're really devoting 3.75 seconds to that cast, and that's a huge chunk of time for a skill that does nothing upon being cast. It's something that's fine to run in PvE, where any healing is useful, but I wouldn't even think about touching it in PvP. It's just too slow. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.