GW's Problems - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Taranis · Mar 25, 2005, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

1) They think no monthly fee will cause problems, and it will be full of bugs and hackers.

I by myself think GW will be the RPG with the less hacking-rate SINCE the cap is "only" 20 and, therefor "lazy" people won't have to make bots etc. to LvL all day even without being at the comp just to be higher than others or to get many items/loots for more gold and better equips...well since the games more skillbased and not item/LvL-based that wouldn't maek much sence either in my view.

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

2) The first time they hear the level 20 cap, they freak out.

To be honest, when I first heard about the LvL-Cap it kinda made me think for a second thought, maybe the cap is a good thing for some players and a bad for others but now after reading more about GW and even playing one BWE I can say that it IS indeed a good thing, just another reason for that is that it'll keep away the "l33t" people who just play to LvL and be better than others to flame them and so on. I don't care what others say about GW/WoW and other RPGs, I don't care either if WoW got a bigger community or shit like that, I'd rather have a small, mature GW community than a big WoW community with 60% of them being assholes and wanna-bes!

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

3) They complain there will be lag because that everyone plays togethor.

I think lag shouldn't be a problem, since the BWE's are just 2 days most people went insane for GW and played 24/7, once the games released there'll be even less lag since everybody will be able to play whenever he wants to and not just a weekend every month, many people just took the chance to play as much as possible => more players in this weekends and I didn't have ANY lag...

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

4) They uh aren't willing to buy exspansions every 6~8 months, but then they will pay $15.00 a month for WoW.

Uhm...they just think something GOOD HAS to cost money....well GW got no fee so it can't be good in their eyes.

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

5) They say there will be no PvE.

Honestly...I'm a long-time RPG'er, maybe not MMORPGs/CORPGs but still I gotta say that GW got a great PvE with a lovely graphic, great quests with many new ideas and a nice story-line! I'm not saying that other MMORPG's graphics suck but GWs just ways better, I played Gothic I + II and I always loved exploring adn Guildwars will have much room for people like me! Guildwars' PvE got many features for all different types of players...I honestly can't wait to explore the world of GW a little...well lots more

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

Ok if you guys think I'm gonna insult this game, your wrong.

I've been going to multiple websites and people won't even try out GuildWars because:
1) They think no monthly fee will cause problems, and it will be full of bugs and hackers.
2) The first time they hear the level 20 cap, they freak out.
3) They complain there will be lag because that everyone plays togethor.
4) They uh aren't willing to buy exspansions every 6~8 months, but then they will pay $15.00 a month for WoW.
5) They say there will be no PvE.

I know ArenaNet has a plan for solving this, but what is it?

Wow... those people are freakin' weird. Tell them they are insane and are missing out on ALOT! They should at least try it first. Damn... thats really sad/stupid/pathetic.

Kiwi · Mar 26, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Uhhh...no.

It wont help in any way recruiting. The best way is to nicely ask them to check out a website.

They will just respond saying, "WoW is better! :P"

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Well, you could be nice and ask them nicely to please here you out and check it ou before they judge because it IS alot better then World or WarCraft. World of WarCraft isn;t bad. Guild Wars is just better.

Aria · Mar 26, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Nova

Well, you could be nice and ask them nicely to please here you out and check it ou before they judge because it IS alot better then World or WarCraft. World of WarCraft isn;t bad. Guild Wars is just better.

Maybe if they have proper manners and can actually think as individuals.

No offense to WoW fans.. but by reading their official forums.. well.. let me just say that I ran out of there quick.

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Yes, its like EverQuest, you'll enver be able to do anything but grind for experience and THEN you can do stuff. Most people only grind and thats what they think the game is, improving your character.

Davion · Mar 26, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

The new spotlight article says it all...without anything else needing to be said....oh and PvE IS integral..denying it is lying to yourself

and to players like me

http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/guildwars...=inc_ff_38.htm

mostro · Mar 26, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

Uhhh...no.

It wont help in any way recruiting. The best way is to nicely ask them to check out a website.

They will just respond saying, "WoW is better! :P"

Well, GW is pretty easy to get into and does not require a lot of time between sessions. I can see GW co-existing with other games, even with other traditional mmorpgs. Even if they don't like the game after they bought it, it's not like they are locked into paying a yearly subscription fee or anything. But if they are not even willing to try the game out then it is really their loss.

Vermilion Okeanos · Mar 26, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00

You know why GW is so awesome?

Because all those people wouldn't play it, and those people = mostly immature kids... Remember a topic somewhere around in Guru saying "everyone in GW seem to be more mature"... and this is why =P

Well... at least we got a few more months to enjoy our mature community =/

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Yes, I am very glad that the crowd that is drawn to this excelent game aren't immatrue children. Lots of kids plz, hell I am one of them! (I'm 14

) But at least they aren't immature and are fun to play with.

mostro · Mar 26, 2005, 07:58 AM // 07:58

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Originally Posted by Death Goddess Frost

my main problem with guildwars is the pvp unbalance. when u go into pvp its allway mo/XX or XX/mo builds....doesnt that cut 2/3 of the stratagies out of the game? im sorry i love guildwars but the point of pvp is to give all skills balance and knowing that i HAVE TO HAVE A MONK BUILD to compete is very sad. for a game that is trying so hard to make things fair....and now i have to roleplay a monk build to have the skills i need for a lvl 20 pvp char....

seems way to unbalanced to me. lets face it monks are over powered in pvp and its hurting the gameplay, and thats way more of a prob then anything i have seen listed here

Lately I think I am seeing a lot of people complaining about the importance of monks in the party and that too many people are using either primary or secondary monk in their builds. The funny thing is, people also complained about the same thing back in October 2004 after the first BWE. Except that they were complaining about warriors. Warriors (especially wa/mo) were the flavor of the month back then and that every team had to have at least 4 wa/mo to compete. If the enemy had 4 wa/mo then you had to have 5 wa/mo to beat them.

Relax. ANet is still balancing the game and they will make any adjustment necessary to keep the game balanced, even after release. I personally think that the monk class is pretty balanced already. 2 - 2.5 healers seem to be the sweet spot for most groups. Likewise, having 1 - 2 mesmers on your team to mess up the enemy's healers is always a good measure.

Lews · Mar 26, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

All these immature children ruining lots of online games though. Not at you, just at kids in general.

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 08:21 AM // 08:21

Heh, well adults play too. This one guy, I am not sure as you never can be, left my group because he didn't want to play with kids. he didn't even play with us really. It sucks when you are judged because of your age. I am not immature at all.

But on the other point, I find it neccesary to have at least 1 monk in my party. It is for some reason hard for me to find one. I need a Warrior/Monk because my friend is a ranger/mesmer like me and my other friend is a Warrior Monk but not always on and not that great at his profession(s). Hehe... so yeah. I love a good Warrior/Monk. Actually a good melee person in general because I usually need one being a Ranger and all.

Lews · Mar 26, 2005, 08:26 AM // 08:26

I enjoy 2 or more monks primary or secoundary.

Oh, when I was that age I felt that way about people treating me too. People always treating you bad because of your age. They'll stop... I guess.

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 08:34 AM // 08:34

I hope.. but yes Monks are very helpful. They are... Uber over all that cannot heal you.

(Inside joke with Lews and I

)

Genosha · Mar 26, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi

Ok if you guys think I'm gonna insult this game, your wrong.

I've been going to multiple websites and people won't even try out GuildWars because:
1) They think no monthly fee will cause problems, and it will be full of bugs and hackers.
2) The first time they hear the level 20 cap, they freak out.
3) They complain there will be lag because that everyone plays togethor.
4) They uh aren't willing to buy exspansions every 6~8 months, but then they will pay $15.00 a month for WoW.
5) They say there will be no PvE.

I know ArenaNet has a plan for solving this, but what is it?

Okay everyone is missing the key here

What did these people create before GW? Hint: Some of the all time top selling games in the world.

BEING BLUNT

iablo, Diablo2, Star Craft, Startup WOW, & Expansions.
Everything that was wrong with these games have already been addressed with GW or did we all miss something

Not likely!

Look at it like this I have talked with everyone I know on WOW and the biggest problem they have right now is servers going down. Have we seen this yet?

EQO has the highest fee. No Fee here!

While the others have nothing special that makes them noticeilble. GW has some of the most impressive graphics ever and with Multiplayers. (NOTE: That do not look like cartoons).

I have personally mapped a BIG chunck of the world and the funny thing is I have a bad feeling I haven't scratched the surface.

Free play what did I miss? You like paying $15 a month? If level caps are a worry then they are not up to the challenge. Lag is not noticable even when I play with 4 dial-up's and 2 broadband. The game can be played together with the expansion or without. No need to expand, but you know you will. Hey here's an incentive maybe you should save the $90 you pay every 6mo. and buy the expansion or upgade your comp? No PvE? I'm not even going to bother with that one it's on almost every fourm I'd waste my breath.

Now tell me what did I miss? I know I did it's an endless circle of negatives to a game that has it all! Okay they did away with PK's Thank the GOD'S!!!

Elonis · Mar 26, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Problem is they only read a breif game description on most of these sites if they even do that(ones who complain and wont try it out). I looked at this and said to myself.. hmm this looks uniquely odd i think ill try it.. tried it.. loved it.. props yo to arena.net for going out side of the box where we all like to be.

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Yes, great description to make all of our point to anti-Guild Wars people. Hopefully now thise who read that will see....

And yes, they probably read a breif discription and have not even the slitest clue as to what they are missing!

Sir Swift Fire · Mar 26, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Hello people. I am new to these forums and was directed here by AmazonBasin.
I am an Alpha tester and have been since March 2004. Many fansites are now based upon GW which is good to see. When I come to some of these I try to view specific concerns, ideas or comments you have and take these back to our developers and Alpha boards. After all thier are many more betas than us Alphas

On this post by Kiwi, I want to try and dispell some myths, worries you may have. Much I cannot divulge since it would be in violation of the NDA (non-dilosure agreement) I signed. So please don't ask.

1. The non subscription fee was placed with well intent thoughts in mind. Call it marketing present or future, what have you. It may come to past that if you want to open up a new charachter slot you may have to buy one. Thats IMO. But this game will hit the market with uch impact that...well no worries. As far as hackers go, upon your initial downloads, you will be downloading a "game guard". This to some extent will provide adequate safety.

2. You must remember that GW is NOT level driven. Other games where you spend countless sleepless hours in hopes of leveling. Here its not how long you play but how well you play

3. Until this hits the Euro-America market, AN (arenanet) does no know the impact it will have on the servers. If it becomes too overwhelming they will bring other servers on line. I play lineage 2, thier we have 9 servers going.

4. Thats thier loss. GW was well thought out and written (lore) by the top developers in the gaming industry. Blizzard lost 3 of thier top Devs to arenanet, and you know what Blizzard makes

. Also, NCSoft is partners with Arenanet (makers of Lineage games). Those games are the highest played mmrpg games ever.

5. There is PvE as well as PvP but to date no PK (people killing).

In closing, I have seen this game go through a metamorphasis like you cannot believe. So much present and future to come. Even on your Beta weekends, you have yet to SEE all there is. Stay tuned

Kiwi · Mar 26, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Sir Swift Fire

Hello people. I am new to these forums and was directed here by AmazonBasin.
I am an Alpha tester and have been since March 2004. Many fansites are now based upon GW which is good to see. When I come to some of these I try to view specific concerns, ideas or comments you have and take these back to our developers and Alpha boards. After all thier are many more betas than us Alphas

On this post by Kiwi, I want to try and dispell some myths, worries you may have. Much I cannot divulge since it would be in violation of the NDA (non-dilosure agreement) I signed. So please don't ask.

1. The non subscription fee was placed with well intent thoughts in mind. Call it marketing present or future, what have you. It may come to past that if you want to open up a new charachter slot you may have to buy one. Thats IMO. But this game will hit the market with uch impact that...well no worries. As far as hackers go, upon your initial downloads, you will be downloading a "game guard". This to some extent will provide adequate safety.

2. You must remember that GW is NOT level driven. Other games where you spend countless sleepless hours in hopes of leveling. Here its not how long you play but how well you play

3. Until this hits the Euro-America market, AN (arenanet) does no know the impact it will have on the servers. If it becomes too overwhelming they will bring other servers on line. I play lineage 2, thier we have 9 servers going.

4. Thats thier loss. GW was well thought out and written (lore) by the top developers in the gaming industry. Blizzard lost 3 of thier top Devs to arenanet, and you know what Blizzard makes

. Also, NCSoft is partners with Arenanet (makers of Lineage games). Those games are the highest played mmrpg games ever.

5. There is PvE as well as PvP but to date no PK (people killing).

In closing, I have seen this game go through a metamorphasis like you cannot believe. So much present and future to come. Even on your Beta weekends, you have yet to SEE all there is. Stay tuned

About the servers, would they split the server and send half of the game to server A and the other half to server B. Or would they just keep server A, and then all new people(and some people who choose to from server A) go to server B? I don't want to be dragged away from my server.

Mar 26, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02	#27
Davion Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: wherever the winds take me Profession: R/Mo	Just read this..... The new spotlight article says it all...without anything else needing to be said....oh and PvE IS integral..denying it is lying to yourself and to players like me http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/guildwars...=inc_ff_38.htm

Mar 26, 2005, 08:34 AM // 08:34	#35
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	I hope.. but yes Monks are very helpful. They are... Uber over all that cannot heal you. (Inside joke with Lews and I ) Last edited by Nova; Mar 26, 2005 at 08:57 PM // 20:57..

Mar 26, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25	#23
Kiwi Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Holy Land of Kiwis!	Uhhh...no. It wont help in any way recruiting. The best way is to nicely ask them to check out a website. They will just respond saying, "WoW is better! :P"

Mar 26, 2005, 02:32 AM // 02:32	#24
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	Well, you could be nice and ask them nicely to please here you out and check it ou before they judge because it IS alot better then World or WarCraft. World of WarCraft isn;t bad. Guild Wars is just better.

Mar 26, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38	#26
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	Yes, its like EverQuest, you'll enver be able to do anything but grind for experience and THEN you can do stuff. Most people only grind and thats what they think the game is, improving your character.

Mar 26, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00	#29
Vermilion Okeanos Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005	You know why GW is so awesome? Because all those people wouldn't play it, and those people = mostly immature kids... Remember a topic somewhere around in Guru saying "everyone in GW seem to be more mature"... and this is why =P Well... at least we got a few more months to enjoy our mature community =/

Mar 26, 2005, 07:56 AM // 07:56	#30
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	Yes, I am very glad that the crowd that is drawn to this excelent game aren't immatrue children. Lots of kids plz, hell I am one of them! (I'm 14 ) But at least they aren't immature and are fun to play with.

Mar 26, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59	#32
Lews Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Washington Profession: R/E	All these immature children ruining lots of online games though. Not at you, just at kids in general.

Mar 26, 2005, 08:21 AM // 08:21	#33
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	Heh, well adults play too. This one guy, I am not sure as you never can be, left my group because he didn't want to play with kids. he didn't even play with us really. It sucks when you are judged because of your age. I am not immature at all. But on the other point, I find it neccesary to have at least 1 monk in my party. It is for some reason hard for me to find one. I need a Warrior/Monk because my friend is a ranger/mesmer like me and my other friend is a Warrior Monk but not always on and not that great at his profession(s). Hehe... so yeah. I love a good Warrior/Monk. Actually a good melee person in general because I usually need one being a Ranger and all.

Mar 26, 2005, 08:26 AM // 08:26	#34
Lews Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Washington Profession: R/E	I enjoy 2 or more monks primary or secoundary. Oh, when I was that age I felt that way about people treating me too. People always treating you bad because of your age. They'll stop... I guess.

Mar 26, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#37
Elonis Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Some break in the fabric of reality.	Problem is they only read a breif game description on most of these sites if they even do that(ones who complain and wont try it out). I looked at this and said to myself.. hmm this looks uniquely odd i think ill try it.. tried it.. loved it.. props yo to arena.net for going out side of the box where we all like to be.

Mar 26, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#38
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	Yes, great description to make all of our point to anti-Guild Wars people. Hopefully now thise who read that will see.... And yes, they probably read a breif discription and have not even the slitest clue as to what they are missing!

Mar 26, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#39
Sir Swift Fire Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	Hello people. I am new to these forums and was directed here by AmazonBasin. I am an Alpha tester and have been since March 2004. Many fansites are now based upon GW which is good to see. When I come to some of these I try to view specific concerns, ideas or comments you have and take these back to our developers and Alpha boards. After all thier are many more betas than us Alphas On this post by Kiwi, I want to try and dispell some myths, worries you may have. Much I cannot divulge since it would be in violation of the NDA (non-dilosure agreement) I signed. So please don't ask. 1. The non subscription fee was placed with well intent thoughts in mind. Call it marketing present or future, what have you. It may come to past that if you want to open up a new charachter slot you may have to buy one. Thats IMO. But this game will hit the market with uch impact that...well no worries. As far as hackers go, upon your initial downloads, you will be downloading a "game guard". This to some extent will provide adequate safety. 2. You must remember that GW is NOT level driven. Other games where you spend countless sleepless hours in hopes of leveling. Here its not how long you play but how well you play 3. Until this hits the Euro-America market, AN (arenanet) does no know the impact it will have on the servers. If it becomes too overwhelming they will bring other servers on line. I play lineage 2, thier we have 9 servers going. 4. Thats thier loss. GW was well thought out and written (lore) by the top developers in the gaming industry. Blizzard lost 3 of thier top Devs to arenanet, and you know what Blizzard makes . Also, NCSoft is partners with Arenanet (makers of Lineage games). Those games are the highest played mmrpg games ever. 5. There is PvE as well as PvP but to date no PK (people killing). In closing, I have seen this game go through a metamorphasis like you cannot believe. So much present and future to come. Even on your Beta weekends, you have yet to SEE all there is. Stay tuned