trading accounts and currency thru ige - Guild Wars Forums

Laz · May 30, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38

I have a few level 20 characters and i saw a ad for IGE on the back of my pcgamer and checked out the website to see that a level 20 Air Elementalist account was being sold for like $500. Now is this legal? I was under the impression that it was all Arena Net property and we just had access to it thru our accounts. However this website is on the contrary and since it was published on the (back) cover of pcgamer it must be legal. Is this so? Cuz i got a level 20 Necro/Monk that i would like to make 400$ off of

DrSLUGFly · May 30, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

As far as I know it's illegal. If they'll allow a licensed company to do this than they're very hypocritical. This company shouldn't be allowed to do it if standard users are not allowed to do it. Standard users have their accounts banned for selling anything in real life, a company should also.

Laz · May 30, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Well i am hoping some A.Net rep will see this and gimme the actual details.

Leventh · May 30, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25

illegal.. i wouldent go as far to say that.. as they seem to have found a loop-hole.
"blah blah im selling the time it took to create this char. yadda yadda."
i have sold to IGE in a few other games sold my lineage two cash for a good 170 US, keep in mind IGE buys low and sells high. so dont expect anyware near 400 for your toon.

Laz · May 30, 2005, 05:35 AM // 05:35

DON'T CALL THEM ****ING TOONS I HATE THAT SORRY FOR THE LANGUAGE. I realize this since i got some quotes already.

Sira · May 30, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40

I would not say illegal but probably against game policies....most gaming companies have rules against selling anypart of the game wether cash, items, weapons ,armor, accounts(for real life items currency ect ect)...but this does not stop players from buying/selling. It is ok to trade accounts by many companies but if you want to know more look at A.nets rules and regulations

Laz calm down lol gaming lingo shouldnt drive you to using caps

Laz · May 30, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Toons is not a good name for anything not related to 5 year old children. Toons extemely annoys me and there is no relationship between gw and cartoons. If this was a game with crappy graphics like WoW where the characters look like cartoons than i would not complain however this is not the case and this game's graphics are very pretty. Guild Wars Rep please read this post and tell me what the deal is.

Aaaaagh · May 30, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54

It is illegal to sell your account, however there are numerous loopholes you can utilize. For instance, you could sell your left shoelace for 400$ American, and as a bonus the person who purchased your shoelace would also be given your CD key, account name and password. It's shady, but welcome to the legal system.

Sira · May 30, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Its a gaming term much the same as saying char...would it be ok for me to start screaming and cussing at a player who uses this instead of spelling out the full word because i dont like abreviations? Hardly ...and the fact that you say that is not a good name for anything not related to a five year old is quite insulting as i plan on becoming an animist some day. The fact that a player might say toon has nothing to do with the graphics of this game, and as for throwing a fit over a player saying that...kinda makes you seem more childish than the 5 year olds watching cartoons

Leventh · May 30, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Not a damn thing wrong with cartoons. And seeing how this game is animated I think the term "toon" fits the character quite well, if you don???t like then oh well.

p.s. toon!

Laz · May 30, 2005, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Back On Topic Please

dwarf stomper · May 30, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

its the same way people sell items or gold on ebay, they have a disclaimer that says all items/characters or whatever remain propterty of arena net, and people are paying for the time it took for the guy to find the item/level up the character

its legal, sell it if u want, but i cant understand these people that buy that stuff, isnt the point of this game to build your own character?

Burem · May 30, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Actually the truth is even with the disclaimer this activity is against the EULA of an online game. Now what's interesting is that it hasn't been proven if EULAs are TRUELY held up in court. So weather or not it's truely illegal is up in the air.

Reguardless any company who owns an MMORPG will tell you that it is, in fact, illegal. If Anet knows you are doing this they will likely ban your account.

Roken · May 30, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

I have a few level 20 characters and i saw a ad for IGE on the back of my pcgamer and checked out the website to see that a level 20 Air Elementalist account was being sold for like $500. Now is this legal? I was under the impression that it was all Arena Net property and we just had access to it thru our accounts. However this website is on the contrary and since it was published on the (back) cover of pcgamer it must be legal. Is this so? Cuz i got a level 20 Necro/Monk that i would like to make 400$ off of

I saw a similar ad in MAXIMUM PC. It was for online MMORPG's only, though.

Laz · May 31, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I read in a Magazine which i cannot find for the life of me that it was legal as and that Sony was the only company doing something about it which was making a ingame way to do it and that way Sony would get the extra middle man percentile instead of some website. I do not know what game they are developing this for but it was a credible magazine and SoE seems to be on the ball atm. Anyone else have something to say bout this?

Laz · May 31, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08

I have just read in the Terms of Use that it is against the Terms of Use but i don't see how IGE is still doing this and so openly if it is against the ToU of GW. I really just don't understand and definitly no longer plan on selling my account because of the potential problems that exist

Eclair · May 31, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Hmm, it is impossible to stop these kind of sales, just like how no matter how hard companies try, they will not stop piracy. A-net should embrace it and be the middle man and make some cash, then put out more updates =P

Bgnome · May 31, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21

dont do it.

May 30, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38	#1
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	trading accounts and currency thru ige I have a few level 20 characters and i saw a ad for IGE on the back of my pcgamer and checked out the website to see that a level 20 Air Elementalist account was being sold for like $500. Now is this legal? I was under the impression that it was all Arena Net property and we just had access to it thru our accounts. However this website is on the contrary and since it was published on the (back) cover of pcgamer it must be legal. Is this so? Cuz i got a level 20 Necro/Monk that i would like to make 400$ off of

May 30, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40	#6
Sira Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Clan of the Black Rose Profession: N/W	I would not say illegal but probably against game policies....most gaming companies have rules against selling anypart of the game wether cash, items, weapons ,armor, accounts(for real life items currency ect ect)...but this does not stop players from buying/selling. It is ok to trade accounts by many companies but if you want to know more look at A.nets rules and regulations Laz calm down lol gaming lingo shouldnt drive you to using caps Last edited by Sira; May 30, 2005 at 05:44 AM // 05:44.. Reason: edited for spelling and to clarify

May 30, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#7
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Toons Toons is not a good name for anything not related to 5 year old children. Toons extemely annoys me and there is no relationship between gw and cartoons. If this was a game with crappy graphics like WoW where the characters look like cartoons than i would not complain however this is not the case and this game's graphics are very pretty. Guild Wars Rep please read this post and tell me what the deal is.

May 31, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#18
Bgnome Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005	dont do it. __________________ [quote=Sausaletus Rex]...When you respond to a thread in [Q&A] make sure, and I mean damn sur

May 30, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40	#2
DrSLUGFly Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: European Server or International	As far as I know it's illegal. If they'll allow a licensed company to do this than they're very hypocritical. This company shouldn't be allowed to do it if standard users are not allowed to do it. Standard users have their accounts banned for selling anything in real life, a company should also.

May 30, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42	#3
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Well i am hoping some A.Net rep will see this and gimme the actual details.

May 30, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25	#4
Leventh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: michigan Guild: Unforgiven Clan [UF] Profession: R/Me	illegal.. i wouldent go as far to say that.. as they seem to have found a loop-hole. "blah blah im selling the time it took to create this char. yadda yadda." i have sold to IGE in a few other games sold my lineage two cash for a good 170 US, keep in mind IGE buys low and sells high. so dont expect anyware near 400 for your toon.

May 30, 2005, 05:35 AM // 05:35	#5
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	DON'T CALL THEM ****ING TOONS I HATE THAT SORRY FOR THE LANGUAGE. I realize this since i got some quotes already.

May 30, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#8
Aaaaagh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	It is illegal to sell your account, however there are numerous loopholes you can utilize. For instance, you could sell your left shoelace for 400$ American, and as a bonus the person who purchased your shoelace would also be given your CD key, account name and password. It's shady, but welcome to the legal system.

May 30, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04	#9
Sira Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Clan of the Black Rose Profession: N/W	Its a gaming term much the same as saying char...would it be ok for me to start screaming and cussing at a player who uses this instead of spelling out the full word because i dont like abreviations? Hardly ...and the fact that you say that is not a good name for anything not related to a five year old is quite insulting as i plan on becoming an animist some day. The fact that a player might say toon has nothing to do with the graphics of this game, and as for throwing a fit over a player saying that...kinda makes you seem more childish than the 5 year olds watching cartoons

May 30, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#10
Leventh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: michigan Guild: Unforgiven Clan [UF] Profession: R/Me	Not a damn thing wrong with cartoons. And seeing how this game is animated I think the term "toon" fits the character quite well, if you don???t like then oh well. p.s. toon!

May 30, 2005, 06:50 PM // 18:50	#11
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Back On Topic Please

May 30, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#12
dwarf stomper Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	its the same way people sell items or gold on ebay, they have a disclaimer that says all items/characters or whatever remain propterty of arena net, and people are paying for the time it took for the guy to find the item/level up the character its legal, sell it if u want, but i cant understand these people that buy that stuff, isnt the point of this game to build your own character?

May 30, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#13
Burem Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Coast USA Profession: E/Me	Actually the truth is even with the disclaimer this activity is against the EULA of an online game. Now what's interesting is that it hasn't been proven if EULAs are TRUELY held up in court. So weather or not it's truely illegal is up in the air. Reguardless any company who owns an MMORPG will tell you that it is, in fact, illegal. If Anet knows you are doing this they will likely ban your account.

May 31, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59	#15
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	I read in a Magazine which i cannot find for the life of me that it was legal as and that Sony was the only company doing something about it which was making a ingame way to do it and that way Sony would get the extra middle man percentile instead of some website. I do not know what game they are developing this for but it was a credible magazine and SoE seems to be on the ball atm. Anyone else have something to say bout this?

May 31, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08	#16
Laz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	I have just read in the Terms of Use that it is against the Terms of Use but i don't see how IGE is still doing this and so openly if it is against the ToU of GW. I really just don't understand and definitly no longer plan on selling my account because of the potential problems that exist

May 31, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09	#17
Eclair Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005	Hmm, it is impossible to stop these kind of sales, just like how no matter how hard companies try, they will not stop piracy. A-net should embrace it and be the middle man and make some cash, then put out more updates =P