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ManadartheHealer · May 29, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

I recently created a guild, and I was wondering how all you "veteran" guild leaders started off recruiting people (other than those you know from real life

). Right now, my guild has barely any people in it and there don't seem to be many that are looking to join anyone's guild. Is there some secret that I am missing?

Thanks in advance

Raiku · May 29, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44

As most Guild Leaders said, you want to start recruiting player who you played for while. See if they like you or not. And recruit them. Try to avoid recruiting people in cities. Try to keep a low min. of 16 Super Active Players, So you can have 24 for a guild.

Leventh · May 29, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Call me a bit too hardcore, but i recruit from pvp. also i try to meet my members in real life.. (the good ones anyhow)

SOT · May 29, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Well in addition to those I have personally played missions with for a while, I usually keep my guild to people I know. It has had it's issues, as other people are wholly unpredictable in their behavior, but I find far less stress going this route.

Now, what to do if you have no real life buddies in the game? Your best bet, in my opinion, is to attempt to join an already well established guild, stipulating that you are only doing so to learn the ropes of guild management and how to be more effective in recruiting, etc. Then when you have made enough progress, leave the guild and start up your own.

This worked for me.

I suppose everyone has different recruitment methods, but in the end, using an internet site, or forums, WILL help. Inevitably, someone WILL come along and see all your hard work and wish to join. You just have to be careful.

ManadartheHealer · May 29, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Thank you for the advice

Chance Folly · May 29, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I agree... don't recruit in Cities. Sure, you may get a good member or two that way, but you can also pick up some of the shoddiest players that way. What I recommend is doing missions, and scouting for members that way. If you meet someone you like and think you can work with, ask them if they want to join. Most of the Crazy Crew's (my guild, you lazy punks) best members were recruited that way.

Ascension · May 29, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

In no specific order;

>Never spam, that'll instantly put you in the category of a noob random recruiting clan.
>Use GWG, I've gotten a few people by just making a good post in the guild database. Make it good though, as there's A LOT of total BS there.
>Pick and choose, go for quality over quantity.
>Test them - actually play with potential recruits as SOT wisely suggested.
>The language - full sentences, respectful, intelligent. Use this form while talknig to potential recruits.
>Ambition, you need to have it otherwise your guild will fail. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
>Persistence, without it you will again fail. In the world of MMO's a 25% recovery rate of already recruited people that are truely good is normal. This means that 1 of 4 (recruit) out of the 20 people that you attemped to recruit.
>Luck - it's always good to have

>Personality type, in relation to you. If you're not social then there's a problem with you being in the recruitment position.
>Your guild scope, give them something to join - not just "another clan." This one is hard if you don't have the right combo. Think about it, then adapt to the correct answer.

That's all I can think of for now,

Good luck to you and your guild!

-Ascension

Adrian Ashcroft · May 30, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

I feel your pain, as I am in the same position. I tried to help out a few people in Ascalon City, with the easy quests a lvl 11 doesn't have problems with...
Unfortunately, all the people with good playing ettiquite just shrugged me off when I sent an invite... It's really annoying, because I put some good time into recruiting

Oh well, guess I'll just keep trying ...

The Wolf · Jun 03, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Adrian: They may have just not known what you wanted them to do. I get randomly invited a lot (probably because I play a monk) and I always reject it. Try sending them a pm to ask them if they want to join you for a quest.

I recently created my guild and have yet to recruit a single person. I've just been playing with random people to go through the missions. I would invite people, but it seems like everyone has a guild already.

Syuveil · Jun 04, 2005, 06:16 AM // 06:16

I started my guild a couple days ago. Currently I have a convert from my old guild who I played with some, nice guy, appreciative of the help...

Besides him I've invited 2 ppl, and 1 because he looked cool

. 1 said he is genna give his guild another shot at trying to become serious or something... and the other said he'll PM me when he wants a guild...

(now that you've heard my story that has nothing to do with my advice (well barely), I'll post my 2 cents.)

So, like so many others, I say you play with them a bit at least, my previous (first) guild I was in had 2-3 cool ppl out of the entire 50+ members... they had just gone to a town and spammed now recruiting messages...

my point - spam recruiting is stupid, and any guild that does it isn't worth your time (for the most part), they're much better guilds out there most likely... (message: don't spam recruit)[/ramble]

(don't spam recruit)

Ascension · Jun 04, 2005, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Don't wait for the people to come to you, hunt them down. You can't be a level 11 stuck in Picken Sqaure wondering why your guild isn't going anywhere. Just focus on playing the game untill you have a stable base, then go out and build up your guild.

Ascension

May 29, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41	#1
ManadartheHealer Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Awaiting GW2 Profession: W/	Help for New Guild! I recently created a guild, and I was wondering how all you "veteran" guild leaders started off recruiting people (other than those you know from real life ). Right now, my guild has barely any people in it and there don't seem to be many that are looking to join anyone's guild. Is there some secret that I am missing? Thanks in advance

May 29, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#2
Raiku Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	As most Guild Leaders said, you want to start recruiting player who you played for while. See if they like you or not. And recruit them. Try to avoid recruiting people in cities. Try to keep a low min. of 16 Super Active Players, So you can have 24 for a guild.

May 29, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49	#3
Leventh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: michigan Guild: Unforgiven Clan [UF] Profession: R/Me	Call me a bit too hardcore, but i recruit from pvp. also i try to meet my members in real life.. (the good ones anyhow)

May 29, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#4
SOT Banned Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Texas	Well in addition to those I have personally played missions with for a while, I usually keep my guild to people I know. It has had it's issues, as other people are wholly unpredictable in their behavior, but I find far less stress going this route. Now, what to do if you have no real life buddies in the game? Your best bet, in my opinion, is to attempt to join an already well established guild, stipulating that you are only doing so to learn the ropes of guild management and how to be more effective in recruiting, etc. Then when you have made enough progress, leave the guild and start up your own. This worked for me. I suppose everyone has different recruitment methods, but in the end, using an internet site, or forums, WILL help. Inevitably, someone WILL come along and see all your hard work and wish to join. You just have to be careful.

May 29, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00	#5
ManadartheHealer Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Awaiting GW2 Profession: W/	Thank you for the advice

May 29, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#6
Chance Folly Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: E/Mo	I agree... don't recruit in Cities. Sure, you may get a good member or two that way, but you can also pick up some of the shoddiest players that way. What I recommend is doing missions, and scouting for members that way. If you meet someone you like and think you can work with, ask them if they want to join. Most of the Crazy Crew's (my guild, you lazy punks) best members were recruited that way.

May 29, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#7
Ascension Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]	In no specific order; >Never spam, that'll instantly put you in the category of a noob random recruiting clan. >Use GWG, I've gotten a few people by just making a good post in the guild database. Make it good though, as there's A LOT of total BS there. >Pick and choose, go for quality over quantity. >Test them - actually play with potential recruits as SOT wisely suggested. >The language - full sentences, respectful, intelligent. Use this form while talknig to potential recruits. >Ambition, you need to have it otherwise your guild will fail. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. >Persistence, without it you will again fail. In the world of MMO's a 25% recovery rate of already recruited people that are truely good is normal. This means that 1 of 4 (recruit) out of the 20 people that you attemped to recruit. >Luck - it's always good to have >Personality type, in relation to you. If you're not social then there's a problem with you being in the recruitment position. >Your guild scope, give them something to join - not just "another clan." This one is hard if you don't have the right combo. Think about it, then adapt to the correct answer. That's all I can think of for now, Good luck to you and your guild! -Ascension

May 30, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#8
Adrian Ashcroft Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rigby, Idaho Guild: Sorrow's End Profession: Me/Mo	I feel your pain, as I am in the same position. I tried to help out a few people in Ascalon City, with the easy quests a lvl 11 doesn't have problems with... Unfortunately, all the people with good playing ettiquite just shrugged me off when I sent an invite... It's really annoying, because I put some good time into recruiting Oh well, guess I'll just keep trying ...

Jun 03, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#9
The Wolf Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bellingham, Washington Guild: Pirates of Improper Etiquette [PIE] Profession: Mo/R	Adrian: They may have just not known what you wanted them to do. I get randomly invited a lot (probably because I play a monk) and I always reject it. Try sending them a pm to ask them if they want to join you for a quest. I recently created my guild and have yet to recruit a single person. I've just been playing with random people to go through the missions. I would invite people, but it seems like everyone has a guild already.

Jun 04, 2005, 06:16 AM // 06:16	#10
Syuveil Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Guild: Wrath of Nature [WoN] Profession: R/	I started my guild a couple days ago. Currently I have a convert from my old guild who I played with some, nice guy, appreciative of the help... Besides him I've invited 2 ppl, and 1 because he looked cool . 1 said he is genna give his guild another shot at trying to become serious or something... and the other said he'll PM me when he wants a guild... (now that you've heard my story that has nothing to do with my advice (well barely), I'll post my 2 cents.) So, like so many others, I say you play with them a bit at least, my previous (first) guild I was in had 2-3 cool ppl out of the entire 50+ members... they had just gone to a town and spammed now recruiting messages... my point - spam recruiting is stupid, and any guild that does it isn't worth your time (for the most part), they're much better guilds out there most likely... (message: don't spam recruit)[/ramble] (don't spam recruit)

Jun 04, 2005, 04:22 PM // 16:22	#11
Ascension Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]	Don't wait for the people to come to you, hunt them down. You can't be a level 11 stuck in Picken Sqaure wondering why your guild isn't going anywhere. Just focus on playing the game untill you have a stable base, then go out and build up your guild. Ascension