Vampiric Bow - Guild Wars Forums

Algren Cole · Jun 09, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21

what's it worth?

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Damage is too low, poor +% mods, crazy high requirement. I can't give you a definite price, but don't expect too much.

I'm not trying to be a jerk (although I usually do

) but here's some tips on how to spot a good bow:

High damage (maximum is 15-28)
Low requirements (I've seen 14-28 req 8 marksmanship)
Good damage mods (+15% while health is above 50%, etc.)
And it helps to not have a bad mod like Vampiric, so people do not have to replace it. So, instead of having Vampiric, find a bow which has Ebon or something, so people get a 2 in 1 (whereas for this bow you would have to buy your own Ebon)
Get + health instead of +defense.

If you have that, and on a good bow (Half Moon, Short Bow, Flatbow) then expect to sell quite high. If it's on a storm bow or eternal bow...that's probably the most perfect bow on the market. Have fun bow hunting

shady_knife · Jun 09, 2005, 09:50 AM // 09:50

vamp bows are good. you just dont know how/when to use them.

Algren Cole · Jun 09, 2005, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I spotted someone selling it for 500g and figured it was a good buy. can anyone give a rough estimate of what they think it's worth?

Tellani Artini · Jun 09, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

what's it worth?

Not as much as a health stealing 4 bow, and they do go that high. The defense grip is probably the most valuable part. This is not a max damage bow, so I wouldn't expect it to sell very well. You're better off expert salvaging it imo.

Algren Cole · Jun 09, 2005, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by Tellani Artini

Not as much as a health stealing 4 bow, and they do go that high. The defense grip is probably the most valuable part. This is not a max damage bow, so I wouldn't expect it to sell very well. You're better off expert salvaging it imo.

only thing I'm afraid of is that I purchased it for 500g expecting to yield a profit...I figured the bow was worth atleast a few plat. If I expert salvage it there's a very good chance I just spent 500g for 8 wood planks...lol

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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vamp bows are good. you just dont know how/when to use them.

Wrong on both accounts. When I am purchasing a bow, the first thing I look for is usability. I do NOT want to blow my cash on a bow that I need to put away on a secondary weapon tab. Sure, if I already have a uber bow (which has the exact stats that I put up there) then I'll consider a high vampiric to be my secondary bow.

MCS · Jun 09, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Last I checked vampiric bows weren't used for healing.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Then I'm afraid I don't know the main purpose people use Vampiric bows. And neither do the majority of the people who post about them on this forum. Please do tell

EDIT: I hope it's not to salvage a 5/1 string and sell it off for a high amount of cash >.>

MCS · Jun 09, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

Then I'm afraid I don't know the main purpose people use Vampiric bows. And neither do the majority of the people who post about them on this forum. Please do tell

EDIT: I hope it's not to salvage a 5/1 string and sell it off for a high amount of cash >.>

The only way to even gain life with a vampiric is by using it with skills like barrage.

IMO the only reason to even use one for pvp is for the extra damage.

PVE is fine to use it for healing as the monsters won't see a half dead ranger trying to heal back to full by standing near everyone and using barrage.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Since when did Vampiric add damage? You said "vampiric bows weren't used for healing" but you replied that their main uses are for barrage and to add damage.

Well vampiric mod alone does not add damage, and the use of vampiric with barrage is for the purpose of gaining life. I don't get it, you haven't added anything new to the conversation or proved that I was wrong in any way

And I was hoping to gain some kind of secret strategy to actually use vampiric bows too...

Amnisac · Jun 09, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

If you use vampric you gain like .5 life IF your attacking at every moment. The point of vampric is to deal more damage as MCS said.
Note what vampric says: life STEALING, which means the life you gain comes from the opponent you hit losing life. Albiet 1-3 damage extra is not alot, but over time it helps.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Ah, sorry, I'm a retarded Diablo II veteran. In D2, life leech simply took a portion of the damage you dealt and gave you that much life.

But in GW, it seems to me that the vampiric number (1-5) deals an extra 1-5 damage and you gain an extra 1-5? Correct?

Vampiric seems like a pretty good option for a secondary bow, then. But I stand by my stance that when shopping for a main (or even, your first) good bow, then I would not use vampiric as one of the mods.

Sorry for the confusion, MCS

MCS · Jun 09, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36

the .5 is normal attacking with a 2 second bow and a 5:-1 string.

Meaning the only way to gain a significant amount of life with it would be to use skills.

However if you are damaged and need the life the last thing you want to do is run in range of 3-5 targets to spam barrage. You'd get owned a hell of a lot faster than you would gain life.

I didn't say barrage+vampiric was a main use, I said it was it's ONLY use for life stealing which isn't very effective.

Many believe that it gives you as much damage as it's taking but no one has proven it, on the other hand, no one has disproved it.

I'd like to believe that they were thinking of something more than .5 regen a second with the fastest bow and a perf string when they made the vampiric.

A mod thats only useful with an elite skill isn't something that they would put into the game so I'm forced to assume that it DOES in fact add the damage.

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Ah, sorry, I'm a retarded Diablo II veteran. In D2, life leech simply took a portion of the damage you dealt and gave you that much life.

well blizz is crazy. They had an attack speed system that went off of frames...

In the normal world 100% increased attack speed would be 2x as fast, but not for blizz

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Jun 09, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21	#1
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	Vampiric Bow what's it worth?

Jun 09, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36	#2
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Damage is too low, poor +% mods, crazy high requirement. I can't give you a definite price, but don't expect too much. I'm not trying to be a jerk (although I usually do ) but here's some tips on how to spot a good bow: High damage (maximum is 15-28) Low requirements (I've seen 14-28 req 8 marksmanship) Good damage mods (+15% while health is above 50%, etc.) And it helps to not have a bad mod like Vampiric, so people do not have to replace it. So, instead of having Vampiric, find a bow which has Ebon or something, so people get a 2 in 1 (whereas for this bow you would have to buy your own Ebon) Get + health instead of +defense. If you have that, and on a good bow (Half Moon, Short Bow, Flatbow) then expect to sell quite high. If it's on a storm bow or eternal bow...that's probably the most perfect bow on the market. Have fun bow hunting

Jun 09, 2005, 09:50 AM // 09:50	#3
shady_knife Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia, Victoria Profession: R/E	vamp bows are good. you just dont know how/when to use them.

Jun 09, 2005, 12:38 PM // 12:38	#4
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I spotted someone selling it for 500g and figured it was a good buy. can anyone give a rough estimate of what they think it's worth?

Jun 09, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#8
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Last I checked vampiric bows weren't used for healing.

Jun 09, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#9
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Then I'm afraid I don't know the main purpose people use Vampiric bows. And neither do the majority of the people who post about them on this forum. Please do tell EDIT: I hope it's not to salvage a 5/1 string and sell it off for a high amount of cash >.>

Jun 09, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#11
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Since when did Vampiric add damage? You said "vampiric bows weren't used for healing" but you replied that their main uses are for barrage and to add damage. Well vampiric mod alone does not add damage, and the use of vampiric with barrage is for the purpose of gaining life. I don't get it, you haven't added anything new to the conversation or proved that I was wrong in any way And I was hoping to gain some kind of secret strategy to actually use vampiric bows too...

Jun 09, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29	#12
Amnisac Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Marhan's Grotto Guild: Running Makes It Worse [Run] Profession: R/E	If you use vampric you gain like .5 life IF your attacking at every moment. The point of vampric is to deal more damage as MCS said. Note what vampric says: life STEALING, which means the life you gain comes from the opponent you hit losing life. Albiet 1-3 damage extra is not alot, but over time it helps.

Jun 09, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#13
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Ah, sorry, I'm a retarded Diablo II veteran. In D2, life leech simply took a portion of the damage you dealt and gave you that much life. But in GW, it seems to me that the vampiric number (1-5) deals an extra 1-5 damage and you gain an extra 1-5? Correct? Vampiric seems like a pretty good option for a secondary bow, then. But I stand by my stance that when shopping for a main (or even, your first) good bow, then I would not use vampiric as one of the mods. Sorry for the confusion, MCS