advantage of "clean" weapons? - Guild Wars Forums

Zorque · Jun 08, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

I've seen several requests in the trade chat for "clean" weapons. This means no modifiers I assume. I was under the impression that you could put a new modifier over an old one as many times as you want, is this not the case?

Amnisac · Jun 08, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29

It is the case, but ussually weapons with mods cost more than non-modded ones. So if people are going to replace the mods with their own, it would be pretty pointless to pay extra.

Lymix · Jun 08, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29

it is the case. However most weapons (if not all) have the ability to have special modifiers on them which are ingrained - not related to any upgrades applied to the weapon. Clean would basically mean it was free from upgrades as well as inherit improvements.... like those are a bad thing

Edit - Argh, not only did he beat me to post.. started his response exactly the same

Zorque · Jun 08, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Thanks, I have another question along the same lines so I'll tack it on the end here. Can the gold/purple items be upgraded with more mods? Or is there just a better chance that they come with more mods? I got a rare fiery dragon sword of pruning and all it had was the crappy pruning mod (+dam to plants). So I can add a prefix and suffix to it, but how does that make it any better than a normal clean sword with those same upgrades?

Lymix · Jun 08, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

the color of the weapon won't have any affect on your ability to upgrade it. Just slap a new upgrade on it and it will override (delete) the old one.

Pruining upgrade - LOL I always thought that was the lamest of them all

Ketendra · Jun 09, 2005, 05:15 AM // 05:15

This thing has kind of ammused me too, because people are actually charging more for "clean" weapons (mainly fire blades), and people are actually buying them...

Shadowdaemon · Jun 09, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

i think its just morons from d2 that started the "clean" thing on here, there were items you could put stuff in on d2 and once you did it they couldnt be removed, so people wanted "clean", well on here its just morons selling junk

p.s. "godly" was a weapon modifier from d2 also, you should see some of the stuff people call godly on here, its ridiculous

EDIT:well i didnt mean they were morons on d2, there it made since

t00tsie · Jun 09, 2005, 06:44 AM // 06:44

sorry kinda lost here..

wad do u guys mean by clean weapons?

than which r the dirty ones?

Sovetskeey · Jun 09, 2005, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Clean weapons are ones that don't have any weapon upgrades added.

As far as "godly" weapons go when people ask for them, I just laugh. They're obviously just noobs if they don't actually know what is considered godly in the game. All they know is that they want it.

Olfin Bedwere · Jun 09, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Read Lymix's 1st post.

t00tsie · Jun 09, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by Sovetskeey

Clean weapons are ones that don't have any weapon upgrades added.

As far as "godly" weapons go when people ask for them, I just laugh. They're obviously just noobs if they don't actually know what is considered godly in the game. All they know is that they want it.

lolz

i'm a noob too.. anyway what is the use of customising ur items? if u already customize the items is it possible to sell it to other ppl?

Juhanah · Jun 09, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17

I always thought people who said "Godly" meant "Goldy". Kinda like people who say "Ruin" instead of "Rune".

Sovetskeey · Jun 09, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06

If an item is customized it can't be used by any person but yourself. You have to keep an eye out when trading weapons to make sure some guy isn't going to try and screw you over while he's trying to get rid of his old weapon.
The +20% damage you get from the customizing is worth it though. On average, my Chaos Axe deals an extra 3 damage on every hit and for 10g you can't go wrong!

Swampgirl Inez · Jun 09, 2005, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Zorque

Thanks, I have another question along the same lines so I'll tack it on the end here. Can the gold/purple items be upgraded with more mods? Or is there just a better chance that they come with more mods? I got a rare fiery dragon sword of pruning and all it had was the crappy pruning mod (+dam to plants). So I can add a prefix and suffix to it, but how does that make it any better than a normal clean sword with those same upgrades?

It's been my experience that color doesn't mean much other than rarity of the drop. The most I've noticed is some higher level colors (yellow over purple over blue over white) have better attribute requirements. You really need to read up on what damage a weapon can do and what modifiers it can have to make your own decision. I've seen some blue weapons that have better numbers than yellow.

http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=125
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ies-id1275.php

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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i think its just morons from d2 that started the "clean" thing on here, there were items you could put stuff in on d2 and once you did it they couldnt be removed, so people wanted "clean", well on here its just morons selling junk

How are the Diablo players who coined the term "clean" morons? It seems to me like the person who first used "clean" in Guild Wars should be the moron.

Anyways, you CAN remove socketable items from sockets. 1 Hel rune + 1 Scroll of Town Portal + socketed item in the Horadric Cube removes all items from the sockets. Clean could also mean unnamed items. I remember offering a named weapon to someone and he said, "omg nub i said clean" and I replied "the socket is empty" and he goes "omg nub u named it!"

Some people may buy the weapon for looks only, or prefer no mods if they don't need them. Such as buying a clean Storm Bow for a non-ranger class.

Sithos · Jun 10, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Some folks just don't intend to spend 50k or more for their idea of perfect modifiers, and simply want a nice, blank, low requirement/maximum damage weapon to play with.

Some folks don't want to stare at a "decreased casting time for Blood Magic (Chance: 3%)" if they're a mo/me or something. It can offend one's sense of order and style.

Hell Marauder · Jun 11, 2005, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Clean weapons have some advantages over a modded weapon. For example, a clean weapon does non-elemental damage (like slash/pierce/blunt) whereas a modded weapon sometimes comes with elemental damage. Now, the only way to get rid of that elemental damage of a modded weapon is to get another haft that does other non-elemental stuffs like lengthen poison/bleed/weakness. Yes, a clean weapon doesn't have modifiers but some modifiers are useless if you never use what it requires (like stance). And vs classes with armor that has elemental resistance like Rangers, you're better off with a clean weapon with regular damage than a weapon with elemental damage.

Jun 08, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#1
Zorque Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	advantage of "clean" weapons? I've seen several requests in the trade chat for "clean" weapons. This means no modifiers I assume. I was under the impression that you could put a new modifier over an old one as many times as you want, is this not the case?

Jun 09, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09	#7
Shadowdaemon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anderson IN USA Guild: Ecks Di [xD] Profession: W/N	i think its just morons from d2 that started the "clean" thing on here, there were items you could put stuff in on d2 and once you did it they couldnt be removed, so people wanted "clean", well on here its just morons selling junk p.s. "godly" was a weapon modifier from d2 also, you should see some of the stuff people call godly on here, its ridiculous EDIT:well i didnt mean they were morons on d2, there it made since Last edited by Shadowdaemon; Jun 10, 2005 at 04:38 AM // 04:38..

Jun 08, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#2
Amnisac Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Marhan's Grotto Guild: Running Makes It Worse [Run] Profession: R/E	It is the case, but ussually weapons with mods cost more than non-modded ones. So if people are going to replace the mods with their own, it would be pretty pointless to pay extra.

Jun 08, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#3
Lymix Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City Profession: W/R	it is the case. However most weapons (if not all) have the ability to have special modifiers on them which are ingrained - not related to any upgrades applied to the weapon. Clean would basically mean it was free from upgrades as well as inherit improvements.... like those are a bad thing Edit - Argh, not only did he beat me to post.. started his response exactly the same

Jun 08, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36	#4
Zorque Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	Thanks, I have another question along the same lines so I'll tack it on the end here. Can the gold/purple items be upgraded with more mods? Or is there just a better chance that they come with more mods? I got a rare fiery dragon sword of pruning and all it had was the crappy pruning mod (+dam to plants). So I can add a prefix and suffix to it, but how does that make it any better than a normal clean sword with those same upgrades?

Jun 08, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#5
Lymix Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City Profession: W/R	the color of the weapon won't have any affect on your ability to upgrade it. Just slap a new upgrade on it and it will override (delete) the old one. Pruining upgrade - LOL I always thought that was the lamest of them all

Jun 09, 2005, 05:15 AM // 05:15	#6
Ketendra Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Guild: JackKnife Brigade Profession: E/Mo	This thing has kind of ammused me too, because people are actually charging more for "clean" weapons (mainly fire blades), and people are actually buying them...

Jun 09, 2005, 06:44 AM // 06:44	#8
t00tsie Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Singapore Guild: Realms of Supreme Fantasy Profession: E/N	sorry kinda lost here.. wad do u guys mean by clean weapons? than which r the dirty ones?

Jun 09, 2005, 06:49 AM // 06:49	#9
Sovetskeey Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Guild: Gotta Be Four Twenty Somewhere	Clean weapons are ones that don't have any weapon upgrades added. As far as "godly" weapons go when people ask for them, I just laugh. They're obviously just noobs if they don't actually know what is considered godly in the game. All they know is that they want it.

Jun 09, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54	#10
Olfin Bedwere Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma Profession: W/Mo	Read Lymix's 1st post.

Jun 09, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#12
Juhanah Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in my house	I always thought people who said "Godly" meant "Goldy". Kinda like people who say "Ruin" instead of "Rune".

Jun 09, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06	#13
Sovetskeey Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Guild: Gotta Be Four Twenty Somewhere	If an item is customized it can't be used by any person but yourself. You have to keep an eye out when trading weapons to make sure some guy isn't going to try and screw you over while he's trying to get rid of his old weapon. The +20% damage you get from the customizing is worth it though. On average, my Chaos Axe deals an extra 3 damage on every hit and for 10g you can't go wrong!

Jun 10, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13	#16
Sithos Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Some folks just don't intend to spend 50k or more for their idea of perfect modifiers, and simply want a nice, blank, low requirement/maximum damage weapon to play with. Some folks don't want to stare at a "decreased casting time for Blood Magic (Chance: 3%)" if they're a mo/me or something. It can offend one's sense of order and style.

Jun 11, 2005, 07:39 AM // 07:39	#17
Hell Marauder Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Clean weapons have some advantages over a modded weapon. For example, a clean weapon does non-elemental damage (like slash/pierce/blunt) whereas a modded weapon sometimes comes with elemental damage. Now, the only way to get rid of that elemental damage of a modded weapon is to get another haft that does other non-elemental stuffs like lengthen poison/bleed/weakness. Yes, a clean weapon doesn't have modifiers but some modifiers are useless if you never use what it requires (like stance). And vs classes with armor that has elemental resistance like Rangers, you're better off with a clean weapon with regular damage than a weapon with elemental damage.