Attempting to solve an issue regarding Skill Points and Profession change... - Guild Wars Forums

holdyourhorseis · May 16, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I'm a bit uninformed here. I've heard that you can viably obtain every skill in the game through changing your secondary profession, which is a great thing for completionists such as myself. But the factor that i'm trying to decipher... when you change your secondary profession, where do you get all the skill points to buy all the new skills for your changed profession? I mean, if you have to "level up" so to speak after you hit 20 just to get 1 point, seems like it would take FOREVER to collect all the skills. Anyone have any insight as to how this works? I would be much obliged if someone could dignify this with a response.

Auntie I · May 16, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43

You can go back and do the quests that give the skills for your new secondary profession.

Loviatar · May 16, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

you can save points by getting the skill as a quest reward (if you can find it) instead of sprnding a point on it and sometimes a quest will give a skill point

holdyourhorseis · May 16, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Alright, so how do i accrue the skill points to get the elite skills for each profession? Is there an easy way? or just doing the levelling up method?

Red Locust · May 16, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27

You're pretty much out of luck if you change professions too many times. The only quests you are gonna be able to do are those quests specific to your secondary (i.e. only give that class' skills). Any quests you already did that rewarded you with primary and secondary skills cannot be redone for your new secondary. So you either don't switch classes too much, or you level your ass off until you can muster all those skill points needed.

Blight And Ruin · Jun 01, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30

I was looking for an explanation of what happens to skills gained on a PvE character when you re-class their secondary profession.

I was wondering about the following things:

1.) Do all skills you have unlocked on your first choice of secondary profession remain unlocked if you choose a second secondary profession? In other words, if I played a N/Me and got all the Elites and other skills I wanted for my /Me profession, would my PvP characters still have access to all of those /Me skills if I changed to N/Mo?

2.) Do you get skill points used to buy skills for your old secondary profession refunded when you switch to a new secondary? In other words if I switched the aforementioned N/Me to an N/Mo, would I get all the skill points spent on /Me skills back?

3.) Can you revert back to your original secondary after trying a new one and get access to all your old skills again, or do you need to rebuy them? In other words if I switched from N/Me to N/Mo then back to N/Me (if that's even possible), would my PvE N/Me still have access to all previously unlocked /Me skills, or would I need to go grind a lot and recapture Elites?

Bgnome · Jun 01, 2005, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by holdyourhorseis

Alright, so how do i accrue the skill points to get the elite skills for each profession? Is there an easy way? or just doing the levelling up method?

there are several ways to get skill points. as for which are easy, that is up to you to determine. the ways i can think of at the moment are levelling (including post 20), certain quest rewards, completing primary and bonus objectives in missions, and gaining ranks from fame. as "levelling" is the only unexhaustable resource of skill points, you will be limited to this method eventually.

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Originally Posted by Blight And Ruin

1.) Do all skills you have unlocked on your first choice of secondary profession remain unlocked if you choose a second secondary profession?

anything unlocked on your account remains unlocked regardless of whether the character you unlocked it with is the same or even there or not. you can delete a character, sell off items, change secondaries, etc. without effecting your unlocked list.

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2.) Do you get skill points used to buy skills for your old secondary profession refunded when you switch to a new secondary?

skill points are not refunded.

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3.) Can you revert back to your original secondary after trying a new one and get access to all your old skills again, or do you need to rebuy them?

your skills from your previous secondary profession will still be available when you switch back to that profession. you will not have to relearn/recapture skills for that particular character.

uigrad · Jun 01, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Thanks for the clear responses Bgnome! I've been wondering about this too.

So, if I dropped my original secondary skill (Ranger) so that I could try out Necro for a day, I could go and do all of the "Necro quests" that I wanted, without spending any skill points. At the end of the day, I could go back to my original secondary (Ranger), and would have lost nothing. Is this correct?

Fye Duron · Jun 01, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Bgnome that was a great response! Good Job and a very good question!

Blight And Ruin · Jun 20, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

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Originally Posted by uigrad

Thanks for the clear responses Bgnome! I've been wondering about this too.

So, if I dropped my original secondary skill (Ranger) so that I could try out Necro for a day, I could go and do all of the "Necro quests" that I wanted, without spending any skill points. At the end of the day, I could go back to my original secondary (Ranger), and would have lost nothing. Is this correct?

Does anyone know whether when you re-class your secondary after completing many or all of these skill quests you then gain the opportunity to do them again and get skills for free in the new profession? Or are you locked into getting all skills by grinding for points if you have completed all of the free skill quests?

ElderAtronach · Jun 20, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

On a tangent, I am a completionist, somewhat. I like to unlock things for every class, so I made 3 RP characters that encompassed all 6 professions. So instead of switching secondaries on one character and grinding for skill points, I can play my 3 RP characters through the game and unlock everything as I go along. My 4th character I save for PVP only, and I try out a lot of builds with that slot, using the skills I unlock.

MaglorD · Jun 20, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Hey, on a related note, what happens if you missed certain skills for your secondary class in pre-searing. If you switch professions and switch back, will these become available for free since I read in a recent patch you get all the starter skills when you switch professions.

theclam · Jun 20, 2005, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by Blight And Ruin

Does anyone know whether when you re-class your secondary after completing many or all of these skill quests you then gain the opportunity to do them again and get skills for free in the new profession? Or are you locked into getting all skills by grinding for points if you have completed all of the free skill quests?

You can't redo quests that you have already done. In Old Ascalon and Yak's Bend, there are a few quests that are profession specific. If you switch your secondary profession, you will unlock those quests. Here is a list of every quest in the game that gives you skills:
http://cleaned.beyondunreal.com/temp...wardQuests.htm

For example, if you are a W/Mo and you switch to W/E, you will be able to do Elemental Knowledge, Scorched Earth, Shalev's Task, Geomancer's Test, and A Heart of Ice, but not Helping People of Ascalon and Supplies for the Duke (assuming that you already did those two quests).

Beyond those quests, you will have to learn skills by paying skill points.

May 16, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#1
holdyourhorseis Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Attempting to solve an issue regarding Skill Points and Profession change... I'm a bit uninformed here. I've heard that you can viably obtain every skill in the game through changing your secondary profession, which is a great thing for completionists such as myself. But the factor that i'm trying to decipher... when you change your secondary profession, where do you get all the skill points to buy all the new skills for your changed profession? I mean, if you have to "level up" so to speak after you hit 20 just to get 1 point, seems like it would take FOREVER to collect all the skills. Anyone have any insight as to how this works? I would be much obliged if someone could dignify this with a response.

May 16, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#2
Auntie I Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Veritas Invictus Profession: E/Me	You can go back and do the quests that give the skills for your new secondary profession.

May 16, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#3
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	you can save points by getting the skill as a quest reward (if you can find it) instead of sprnding a point on it and sometimes a quest will give a skill point

May 16, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55	#4
holdyourhorseis Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Alright, so how do i accrue the skill points to get the elite skills for each profession? Is there an easy way? or just doing the levelling up method?

May 16, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27	#5
Red Locust Site Contributor Join Date: May 2005	You're pretty much out of luck if you change professions too many times. The only quests you are gonna be able to do are those quests specific to your secondary (i.e. only give that class' skills). Any quests you already did that rewarded you with primary and secondary skills cannot be redone for your new secondary. So you either don't switch classes too much, or you level your ass off until you can muster all those skill points needed.

Jun 01, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#6
Blight And Ruin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Never guilded ;-)	I was looking for an explanation of what happens to skills gained on a PvE character when you re-class their secondary profession. I was wondering about the following things: 1.) Do all skills you have unlocked on your first choice of secondary profession remain unlocked if you choose a second secondary profession? In other words, if I played a N/Me and got all the Elites and other skills I wanted for my /Me profession, would my PvP characters still have access to all of those /Me skills if I changed to N/Mo? 2.) Do you get skill points used to buy skills for your old secondary profession refunded when you switch to a new secondary? In other words if I switched the aforementioned N/Me to an N/Mo, would I get all the skill points spent on /Me skills back? 3.) Can you revert back to your original secondary after trying a new one and get access to all your old skills again, or do you need to rebuy them? In other words if I switched from N/Me to N/Mo then back to N/Me (if that's even possible), would my PvE N/Me still have access to all previously unlocked /Me skills, or would I need to go grind a lot and recapture Elites?

Jun 01, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#8
uigrad Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois	Thanks for the clear responses Bgnome! I've been wondering about this too. So, if I dropped my original secondary skill (Ranger) so that I could try out Necro for a day, I could go and do all of the "Necro quests" that I wanted, without spending any skill points. At the end of the day, I could go back to my original secondary (Ranger), and would have lost nothing. Is this correct?

Jun 01, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#9
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	Bgnome that was a great response! Good Job and a very good question!

Jun 20, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03	#11
ElderAtronach Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	On a tangent, I am a completionist, somewhat. I like to unlock things for every class, so I made 3 RP characters that encompassed all 6 professions. So instead of switching secondaries on one character and grinding for skill points, I can play my 3 RP characters through the game and unlock everything as I go along. My 4th character I save for PVP only, and I try out a lot of builds with that slot, using the skills I unlock.

Jun 20, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57	#12
MaglorD Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	Hey, on a related note, what happens if you missed certain skills for your secondary class in pre-searing. If you switch professions and switch back, will these become available for free since I read in a recent patch you get all the starter skills when you switch professions.