All the noobs choose warriors? - Guild Wars Forums

Phoenix Avenger · Jun 21, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Is this just happening to me? Or are only warriors screwing up missions? They go aggro everything, we tell them to retreat, they dont, we have to stay and keep attacking or he dies and curses us out. Then we lose cause we now have DPs. Are all the noobs choosing warriors now? Because it sure does seem like they are. Someone should develop a quick warrior IQ test that ppl can ask warriors before they let them in a group. I would pay lots of gold for that. Warriors have screwed up so many of the missions i've been on, its crazy, so i guess my question to everyone is, are warriors screwing up a lot of your missions as well?

Reiden Argrock · Jun 21, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

lol, in some cases I can agree with you, I have had my experience with shall we say, not the smartest of people, however I am a warrior and I have to say that I know when to charge and when not to.

If you are having difficulties finding a good group to do a mission, by all means send me a pm and I'll do what I can to help out, I've helped alot of people who I don't know, get through difficult missions just cause they asked, and were polite, so if you can't find any good warriors, let me know

Dusk_ · Jun 21, 2005, 09:34 PM // 21:34

It could be much worse. Imagine if all the noobs decided to make healer monks. *Shudder*

funbun · Jun 21, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Warriors in GW are like Night Elves in WoW. All the n00bs get a Night Elf Hunter and name him Legolas.

Aloren · Jun 21, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

I can always help you out. I can't say all the noobs are choosing warrior, as I have seen noobs as they would be called in every class.

Charging can sometimes help, but it's usually better to let a ranged attacker pull the enemies back to the war, where he/she can then begin tanking.

Reiden Argrock · Jun 21, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

lol, then their would be lots of healers

we seem to be short of those, however it would be bad to have healers in group who don't know what their doing, and so everyone dies.
I don't think their is a class that caters to less than intelligent people, I think that their are certain class's that seem like they are super, (w/mo), and simple to play and so that is what most people start out as. However after a while people either learn that while easy to play, they can be quite difficult to be good at, and so people either switch class's with a new char, or learn how to play

"learn how to play" being wishful thinking, there are still some people who make it to hell's precipice and still don't know what the hell their doing...

Arvydas · Jun 21, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

i'm a warrior myself and believe me most of the time, at least for me, it's a caster who screwed up the missions for us. there was once an E/W who thought he/she was a W/E and aggro'ed, died, then rezzed by me. but i agree warriors have the tendency to screw up more than any other classes do. i've been with a lvl 20 (supposedly not a noob) W/Mo who ran away from the group, died, and left the game. Of course we didnt get to finish the mission

Algren Cole · Jun 21, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Arvydas

i'm a warrior myself and believe me most of the time, at least for me, it's a caster who screwed up the missions for us. there was once an E/W who thought he/she was a W/E and aggro'ed, died, then rezzed by me. but i agree warriors have the tendency to screw up more than any other classes do. i've been with a lvl 20 (supposedly not a noob) W/Mo who ran away from the group, died, and left the game. Of course we didnt get to finish the mission

first time I tried Villainy our Warrior aggro'd everything he could find. I had not choice but to rush the portal. <3 Sprint + Lightning Reflexes

Reiden Argrock · Jun 21, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

does this mean that warriors are the noob class? Does this mean that all warriors are lacking the brains to play the game? I understand that more often than not, warriors cause alot of the extra agro but I like to think it is the players fault and not the class. And their are alot of people out there playing and so I'm not even gonna say that the majority of warriors are dumb, but I know that what you guys are saying happens quite frequently, even I have had a few mistakes although I am pretty good about not being stupid, and if I am the cause of lots of aggro, I always appologize to grp and try to make it up to them, donating loot to the healer if they died trying to keep me alive, things like that...

Please don't speak in absolutes, thats all i'm asking.

toastgodsupreme · Jun 21, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Another problem I have is not noob warriors, but people who ride a warrior's ass into battle. The whole ****ing team seems to think that if the warrior is a few feet in front of them, he'll maintain agro.

I tell my team to keep me at the edge of their agro bubbles. Plenty of distance for any non-melee to do what they need to do and safely. Rarely do people listen. Ride my ass, just pray your armor is as good as mine.

funbun · Jun 21, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

I wonder why do more people choose warrior than anything else? At the higher level you can't build a balanced team because warriors out number everyone 10:1 I think it's because the pupulation on warriors is higher that we see a higher number of n00b warriors.

So, it isn't absolute, but yes warrior is the n00b class. Just like Night Elf Hunter is the n00b class in WoW.

Principa Discordia · Jun 21, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Avenger

Is this just happening to me? Or are only warriors screwing up missions? They go aggro everything, we tell them to retreat, they dont, we have to stay and keep attacking or he dies and curses us out. Then we lose cause we now have DPs. Are all the noobs choosing warriors now? Because it sure does seem like they are. Someone should develop a quick warrior IQ test that ppl can ask warriors before they let them in a group. I would pay lots of gold for that. Warriors have screwed up so many of the missions i've been on, its crazy, so i guess my question to everyone is, are warriors screwing up a lot of your missions as well?

There are idiots in every class, and by making blanket comments like these you're only making yourself look every bit as idiotic.

funbun · Jun 21, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

I saw a n00b Mesmer once. He kept beggin us to go attack this one boss for an elite skill during an infusion run. He RUNNOFT and tried to get the skill dispite waring not to from everyone. Once we fiinished the mission I said, "That's the first time I've seen a loser Mesmer." Everyone agreed.

I've noticed since retail release there have been a larger number of n00b in everyclass. Despite that I will say I have experienced a higher number of warrior n00bs over any other class. I think that is due to population.

It woould be interesting to see the percentages. Percentage wise, there are probably an equal percentage of n00b in every class.

Loki69 · Jun 21, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

It is not that all noobs are choosing warrior. I have seen unskilled players in every class.

The problem is that it is easier to see an unskilled player as a warrior. Most other classes will draw enemies even if they are unskilled. Since Warriors are the main melee class you often see unskilled players thinking they can rush into a battle thus increasing the chances of multiple aggro.

Most of the other classes just happen to be a bit more forgiving of the unskilled.

Reiden Argrock · Jun 21, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by funbun

I wonder why do more people choose warrior than anything else? At the higher level you can't build a balanced team because warriors out number everyone 10:1 I think it's because the pupulation on warriors is higher that we see a higher number of n00b warriors.

So, it isn't absolute, but yes warrior is the n00b class. Just like Night Elf Hunter is the n00b class in WoW.

Yes it is quite unbalanced, but it is not the n00b class (and screw your damn terminology) it is the newbie class, as in new player class, because it is the most simple to play. And as a new player people don't know that by the time they get their character up there their gonna have a hard time finding a group because of the large number of warriors. Also because they have spent all this time with their character, they don't want to delete it because of the time they put into it.

Any person can suck at any class, they just make warriors because they think that warriors will be the easiest to be good at.

Well hopefully they learn. My first char was a necro, and I stopped playin him because nobody wanted a necro, everybody wanted a warrior. So now look where we are.

TimTheEnchanter · Jun 21, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by funbun

I wonder why do more people choose warrior than anything else?

I can only speak for myself. The second character I created is a warrior. I don't team up with too many people, so the warrior lets me solo. I have always been more of a loner in these games, or at least I try to be when I can.

QuixotesGhost · Jun 21, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Warriors have a class trait that encourages them to hit group after group without stopping inbetween. Adrenaline. When they are first starting out, they put two and two together and go: "Aha! If I hit that next group as soon as possible then I'll still have my adrenaline!" Then later on after lying broken and bleeding on the ground enough times, they eventually figure it out.

It's a class feature of Warrior that encourages noob behavior. When other classes are learning they game they aren't encouraged to charge everything in sight as soon as possible, so thier learning curve isn't as rough on thier group.

Reiden Argrock · Jun 21, 2005, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by QuixotesGhost

Warriors have a class trait that encourages them to hit group after group without stopping inbetween. Adrenaline. When they are first starting out, they put two and two together and go: "Aha! If I hit that next group as soon as possible then I'll still have my adrenaline!" Then later on after lying broken and bleeding on the ground enough times, they eventually figure it out.

wow, I never thought about this, but your right, adrenaline does encourage that kind of rush behavior so that you don't have to wait to regain it. However, learning players quickly realize this tendency I think, and learn to ballance the 'urge' and the need to wait for their casters to regen

Good point Quixotes

Ketch · Jun 21, 2005, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Its just easier to notice newbie Warriors than others.
Casters stand back, and its hard to tell what they're doing.

Wars.. well their mistakes are obvious because they have to engage to do anything.

Imp · Jun 21, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Most of the times that I stay and die is when I'm trying to have people run away so they can do rebirth/rezes without having aggro. When it just ends up that everyone dies but me, and I pull out "I will avenge you!" and kill everything.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#1
Phoenix Avenger Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin Guild: Eternal Knights Profession: E/Mo	All the noobs choose warriors? Is this just happening to me? Or are only warriors screwing up missions? They go aggro everything, we tell them to retreat, they dont, we have to stay and keep attacking or he dies and curses us out. Then we lose cause we now have DPs. Are all the noobs choosing warriors now? Because it sure does seem like they are. Someone should develop a quick warrior IQ test that ppl can ask warriors before they let them in a group. I would pay lots of gold for that. Warriors have screwed up so many of the missions i've been on, its crazy, so i guess my question to everyone is, are warriors screwing up a lot of your missions as well?

Jun 21, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#6
Reiden Argrock Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Shadowstorm Mercenaries	lol, then their would be lots of healers we seem to be short of those, however it would be bad to have healers in group who don't know what their doing, and so everyone dies. I don't think their is a class that caters to less than intelligent people, I think that their are certain class's that seem like they are super, (w/mo), and simple to play and so that is what most people start out as. However after a while people either learn that while easy to play, they can be quite difficult to be good at, and so people either switch class's with a new char, or learn how to play "learn how to play" being wishful thinking, there are still some people who make it to hell's precipice and still don't know what the hell their doing... Last edited by Reiden Argrock; Jun 21, 2005 at 09:40 PM // 21:40..

Jun 21, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#13
funbun Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: I forget. Really. I don't know. Profession: Mo/	I saw a n00b Mesmer once. He kept beggin us to go attack this one boss for an elite skill during an infusion run. He RUNNOFT and tried to get the skill dispite waring not to from everyone. Once we fiinished the mission I said, "That's the first time I've seen a loser Mesmer." Everyone agreed. I've noticed since retail release there have been a larger number of n00b in everyclass. Despite that I will say I have experienced a higher number of warrior n00bs over any other class. I think that is due to population. It woould be interesting to see the percentages. Percentage wise, there are probably an equal percentage of n00b in every class. Last edited by funbun; Jun 21, 2005 at 10:08 PM // 22:08..

Jun 21, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30	#2
Reiden Argrock Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Shadowstorm Mercenaries	lol, in some cases I can agree with you, I have had my experience with shall we say, not the smartest of people, however I am a warrior and I have to say that I know when to charge and when not to. If you are having difficulties finding a good group to do a mission, by all means send me a pm and I'll do what I can to help out, I've helped alot of people who I don't know, get through difficult missions just cause they asked, and were polite, so if you can't find any good warriors, let me know

Jun 21, 2005, 09:34 PM // 21:34	#3
Dusk_ Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	It could be much worse. Imagine if all the noobs decided to make healer monks. Shudder

Jun 21, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#4
funbun Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: I forget. Really. I don't know. Profession: Mo/	Warriors in GW are like Night Elves in WoW. All the n00bs get a Night Elf Hunter and name him Legolas.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#5
Aloren Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Darkstalkers Profession: W/E	I can always help you out. I can't say all the noobs are choosing warrior, as I have seen noobs as they would be called in every class. Charging can sometimes help, but it's usually better to let a ranged attacker pull the enemies back to the war, where he/she can then begin tanking.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#7
Arvydas Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Soul Devourers Profession: W/Mo	i'm a warrior myself and believe me most of the time, at least for me, it's a caster who screwed up the missions for us. there was once an E/W who thought he/she was a W/E and aggro'ed, died, then rezzed by me. but i agree warriors have the tendency to screw up more than any other classes do. i've been with a lvl 20 (supposedly not a noob) W/Mo who ran away from the group, died, and left the game. Of course we didnt get to finish the mission

Jun 21, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#9
Reiden Argrock Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Shadowstorm Mercenaries	does this mean that warriors are the noob class? Does this mean that all warriors are lacking the brains to play the game? I understand that more often than not, warriors cause alot of the extra agro but I like to think it is the players fault and not the class. And their are alot of people out there playing and so I'm not even gonna say that the majority of warriors are dumb, but I know that what you guys are saying happens quite frequently, even I have had a few mistakes although I am pretty good about not being stupid, and if I am the cause of lots of aggro, I always appologize to grp and try to make it up to them, donating loot to the healer if they died trying to keep me alive, things like that... Please don't speak in absolutes, thats all i'm asking.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#10
toastgodsupreme Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Profession: Me/	Another problem I have is not noob warriors, but people who ride a warrior's ass into battle. The whole ****ing team seems to think that if the warrior is a few feet in front of them, he'll maintain agro. I tell my team to keep me at the edge of their agro bubbles. Plenty of distance for any non-melee to do what they need to do and safely. Rarely do people listen. Ride my ass, just pray your armor is as good as mine.

Jun 21, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#11
funbun Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: I forget. Really. I don't know. Profession: Mo/	I wonder why do more people choose warrior than anything else? At the higher level you can't build a balanced team because warriors out number everyone 10:1 I think it's because the pupulation on warriors is higher that we see a higher number of n00b warriors. So, it isn't absolute, but yes warrior is the n00b class. Just like Night Elf Hunter is the n00b class in WoW.

Jun 21, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10	#14
Loki69 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	It is not that all noobs are choosing warrior. I have seen unskilled players in every class. The problem is that it is easier to see an unskilled player as a warrior. Most other classes will draw enemies even if they are unskilled. Since Warriors are the main melee class you often see unskilled players thinking they can rush into a battle thus increasing the chances of multiple aggro. Most of the other classes just happen to be a bit more forgiving of the unskilled.

Jun 21, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#17
QuixotesGhost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Warriors have a class trait that encourages them to hit group after group without stopping inbetween. Adrenaline. When they are first starting out, they put two and two together and go: "Aha! If I hit that next group as soon as possible then I'll still have my adrenaline!" Then later on after lying broken and bleeding on the ground enough times, they eventually figure it out. It's a class feature of Warrior that encourages noob behavior. When other classes are learning they game they aren't encouraged to charge everything in sight as soon as possible, so thier learning curve isn't as rough on thier group.

Jun 21, 2005, 10:33 PM // 22:33	#19
Ketch Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Waterloo Profession: W/Mo	Its just easier to notice newbie Warriors than others. Casters stand back, and its hard to tell what they're doing. Wars.. well their mistakes are obvious because they have to engage to do anything.

Jun 21, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36	#20
Imp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Novum Igneus [NI] Profession: Rt/	Most of the times that I stay and die is when I'm trying to have people run away so they can do rebirth/rezes without having aggro. When it just ends up that everyone dies but me, and I pull out "I will avenge you!" and kill everything.