Profius Odin · Jul 05, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

We can equip only one Elite Skill at a time? Since when? Bug? Or devs decided that few elites on the bar is too much?

Lacroix · Jul 05, 2005, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Too many Elite skills at a time would unbalance the game. If we could have more than one, how many people would have a "Martyr/Signet of Agony" combo going on? I know I would.

I suppose it's there to balance the game.

dargon · Jul 05, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12

or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

Enigmatics · Jul 05, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Or cleave+eviscerate+battle rage+warriors endurance+defy pain+mark of protection

Algren Cole · Jul 05, 2005, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by dargon

or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

Poison Arrow is an elite?

arnansnow · Jul 05, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

Poison Arrow is an elite?

Yes poison arrow is an elite. You may have confused it with apply poison.

Profius Odin · Jul 05, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42

It's because of you "perverts" we can't have more than one elite on the bar. You always find some combination to own everybody else. Why can't you be just normal?

j/k

Profius Odin · Jul 05, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Maybe devs can group Elites in subgroups, to let us use at least 2-3 average Elite skills from those that are not so uber so we can't make destroying combinations.
Or, at lease allow us to use more than one elite in PvE. Or else there is no point to have so many elites. If you can use only one, why there is 15 elites for each profession? Some of them have even 16-17 elites. I don't see a point in having so many of you can use only ONE at a time.

Algren Cole · Jul 05, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by arnansnow

Yes poison arrow is an elite. You may have confused it with apply poison.

you know me so well cupcake

arnansnow · Jul 05, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48

They made it so you can only have one at a time because, otherwise they are just like normal abilities. They needed some sort of better-than-the-others abilities, and they wanted them to be special, so they limited the amount you can have.

If they make it so you can use multiple, they become insanely cheap, and their is no use in calling them elites anymore, as most elites are just upgraded versions of other spells.

Bingley Joe · Jul 05, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Profius Odin

Maybe devs can group Elites in subgroups, to let us use at least 2-3 average Elite skills from those that are not so uber so we can't make destroying combinations.
Or, at lease allow us to use more than one elite in PvE. Or else there is no point to have so many elites. If you can use only one, why there is 15 elites for each profession? Some of them have even 16-17 elites. I don't see a point in having so many of you can use only ONE at a time.

"Average Elite skills"? What would you call the really good Elite skills then? Elite Elite, maybe?

The reason there are so many Elite skills to choose from should be obvious -- it's so that you have some CHOICE about how to make a build. Same reason we need more than one skill in any attribute line. You suss-out your opponent's abilities, and try to put together a collection of skills from your pool to shut them down..

The "Elite" skills aren't necessarily all-powerful on their own, but are limited to one at a time because in combination with certain other skills (elite or non-elite alike), they can become pretty "uber" (aka: Significantly Above Average Elite) and un-balance the game..

Which two Elites would you like to run at the same time?

Doctor Anomalo · Jul 05, 2005, 03:13 PM // 15:13

elite skills are overpowered (or at least are meant to be). for example, their low energy cost. thus, you can have only one (compare to the legendary cards of magic: the gathering).

CKaz · Jul 05, 2005, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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Originally Posted by Doctor Anomalo

(compare to the legendary cards of magic: the gathering).

of which I still have a box and a half to unload..
really enjoyed the game but oh the time and money sink

Bueno Star · Jul 05, 2005, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by dargon

or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

i'd be rocking greater conf., barrage and melandrus arrows. lol

Rajamic · Jul 05, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Bueno Star

i'd be rocking greater conf., barrage and melandrus arrows. lol

Barrage would remove Melandru's Arrows anyway. :-P

How about Practiced Stance + Echo + Incendiary Arrows?

Lasher Dragon · Jul 05, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I'd be happy with barrage, poison arrow and escape for PvE... that would be tight.

Linkie · Jul 05, 2005, 08:25 PM // 20:25

The reason they made elites in the first place was to stop abusable combos. IW + Hundred Blades is a good example.

Bueno Star · Jul 05, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Rajamic

Barrage would remove Melandru's Arrows anyway. :-P

How about Practiced Stance + Echo + Incendiary Arrows?

damn, i forget about that. in fact, i do that in-game sometimes too. lmao

*clicks apply poison followed by barrage* ....."DOH!"

Slade xTekno · Jul 05, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Elite skills are not the best, per se, but would cause imbalance if they were combined with others. IW + Hundred Blades + Signet of Midnight 4tw?

Profius Odin · Jul 05, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Ok, I think this topic may be considered closed.

Jul 05, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#1
Profius Odin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Guards of The Wall Profession: R/E	How come only one Elite skill at a time? We can equip only one Elite Skill at a time? Since when? Bug? Or devs decided that few elites on the bar is too much?

Jul 05, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#19
Slade xTekno Rawr. Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Read or Die Stooge Forum Profession: W/	Elite skills are not the best, per se, but would cause imbalance if they were combined with others. IW + Hundred Blades + Signet of Midnight 4tw? __________________ My Dual-Wielding / Off-Hand Weapon Proposal

Jul 05, 2005, 01:02 AM // 01:02	#2
Lacroix Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Gentlemen's Club Profession: E/	Too many Elite skills at a time would unbalance the game. If we could have more than one, how many people would have a "Martyr/Signet of Agony" combo going on? I know I would. I suppose it's there to balance the game.

Jul 05, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12	#3
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

Jul 05, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#4
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	Or cleave+eviscerate+battle rage+warriors endurance+defy pain+mark of protection

Jul 05, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42	#7
Profius Odin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Guards of The Wall Profession: R/E	It's because of you "perverts" we can't have more than one elite on the bar. You always find some combination to own everybody else. Why can't you be just normal? j/k

Jul 05, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45	#8
Profius Odin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Guards of The Wall Profession: R/E	Maybe devs can group Elites in subgroups, to let us use at least 2-3 average Elite skills from those that are not so uber so we can't make destroying combinations. Or, at lease allow us to use more than one elite in PvE. Or else there is no point to have so many elites. If you can use only one, why there is 15 elites for each profession? Some of them have even 16-17 elites. I don't see a point in having so many of you can use only ONE at a time.

Jul 05, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48	#10
arnansnow Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: DOOM Profession: E/N	They made it so you can only have one at a time because, otherwise they are just like normal abilities. They needed some sort of better-than-the-others abilities, and they wanted them to be special, so they limited the amount you can have. If they make it so you can use multiple, they become insanely cheap, and their is no use in calling them elites anymore, as most elites are just upgraded versions of other spells.

Jul 05, 2005, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#12
Doctor Anomalo Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Profession: R/W	elite skills are overpowered (or at least are meant to be). for example, their low energy cost. thus, you can have only one (compare to the legendary cards of magic: the gathering).

Jul 05, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#16
Lasher Dragon Draconic Rage Incarnate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Alphahive Profession: R/A	I'd be happy with barrage, poison arrow and escape for PvE... that would be tight.

Jul 05, 2005, 08:25 PM // 20:25	#17
Linkie Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norway Profession: P/W	The reason they made elites in the first place was to stop abusable combos. IW + Hundred Blades is a good example.

Jul 05, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21	#20
Profius Odin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Guards of The Wall Profession: R/E	Ok, I think this topic may be considered closed.