Sundering OR Barbed upgrade for sword? - Guild Wars Forums

M1h4iL · Jul 07, 2005, 09:12 AM // 09:12

I am at a stage where I have a good sword and money to burn on upgrading it. I have a sundering hilt 10/10 and a Barbed hilt. These are the only ones I am willing to put on my sword as I find furious hilt and zealous/vampiric hilt a bit of a waste (degeneration of hp/mana)
I understand that using the sundering hilt 10/10 will give you a 1 in 10 hit with 10% armour penetration, whilst the barbed hilt will give you an uncoditional prolonged bleeding time on a foe.
What I am wondering is: which one in you opinion is better for a sword? The barbed or sundering 10/10 hilt? And by how long does the barbed hilt increase the bleeding duration on foe?
Thanks for ANY input.

Balrad Baptiste · Jul 07, 2005, 10:51 AM // 10:51

I personally wouldnt use the barbed upgrade. I have found that 21 seconds of bleeding on foe at sword level 12 is more than enough. That is, I hit the monster with a new bleeding attack long before the bleeding of the first hit stops.

SuicideMage · Jul 07, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58

Well, it depends on how you play. If you playing PvP i would use the barbed upgrade so if anyone runs away from you , you can kill him bye bleeding !

M1h4iL · Jul 07, 2005, 12:18 PM // 12:18

But by how much does the barbed hilt increase the bleeding duration? Would it be around extra 4 seconds? :/

Magus · Jul 07, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40

I'd go with zealous.

or if you have a 3:1 vampiric, go with that.

But if you must use either barbed or sundering, use barbed. Sundering gives you the armor penetration equivalent of 1 attribute of strength, i.e. almost none.

Acan Vishnu · Jul 07, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53

If your talking about PvP then any team worth its salt will have good condition removal so the prolonged bleeding will mean nothing.

Looking at sundering as giving you 1% AP per hit is not quite the right way of looking at it, it isn't for duration damage, it is (in my experience) to give a little extra spike damage. Also comparing it to Strength is a little skewed as strength only comes into effect on skills.

Algren Cole · Jul 07, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06

I agree with Magus...I'd go with a 3:1 vampiric...you'll be gaining more health than you'll be losing.

Jul 07, 2005, 09:12 AM // 09:12	#1
M1h4iL Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth, Australia	Sundering OR Barbed upgrade for sword? I am at a stage where I have a good sword and money to burn on upgrading it. I have a sundering hilt 10/10 and a Barbed hilt. These are the only ones I am willing to put on my sword as I find furious hilt and zealous/vampiric hilt a bit of a waste (degeneration of hp/mana) I understand that using the sundering hilt 10/10 will give you a 1 in 10 hit with 10% armour penetration, whilst the barbed hilt will give you an uncoditional prolonged bleeding time on a foe. What I am wondering is: which one in you opinion is better for a sword? The barbed or sundering 10/10 hilt? And by how long does the barbed hilt increase the bleeding duration on foe? Thanks for ANY input.

Jul 07, 2005, 10:51 AM // 10:51	#2
Balrad Baptiste Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark Guild: DK Profession: Mo/Me	I personally wouldnt use the barbed upgrade. I have found that 21 seconds of bleeding on foe at sword level 12 is more than enough. That is, I hit the monster with a new bleeding attack long before the bleeding of the first hit stops.

Jul 07, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58	#3
SuicideMage Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005	Well, it depends on how you play. If you playing PvP i would use the barbed upgrade so if anyone runs away from you , you can kill him bye bleeding !

Jul 07, 2005, 12:18 PM // 12:18	#4
M1h4iL Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth, Australia	But by how much does the barbed hilt increase the bleeding duration? Would it be around extra 4 seconds? :/

Jul 07, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40	#5
Magus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005	I'd go with zealous. or if you have a 3:1 vampiric, go with that. But if you must use either barbed or sundering, use barbed. Sundering gives you the armor penetration equivalent of 1 attribute of strength, i.e. almost none.

Jul 07, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#6
Acan Vishnu Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/N	If your talking about PvP then any team worth its salt will have good condition removal so the prolonged bleeding will mean nothing. Looking at sundering as giving you 1% AP per hit is not quite the right way of looking at it, it isn't for duration damage, it is (in my experience) to give a little extra spike damage. Also comparing it to Strength is a little skewed as strength only comes into effect on skills.

Jul 07, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06	#7
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I agree with Magus...I'd go with a 3:1 vampiric...you'll be gaining more health than you'll be losing.