Stolen drops... Can anything be done? - Page 4 - Guild Wars Forums

Night · Jun 21, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by MechaStyle

Is there anything that can be done to punish this particular person? I'm not so much upset about the loss of the item as the principle of having it stolen. Sure, I could just play with my guild/friends, but it shouldn't have to come to that... Sad, really.

As far as punishment, I don't see how. Even screen shots may not be able to prove how long it was that he/she left you dead so they could grab the item. I don't know hwhat good it would do to complain but then again 1 or 2 complaints probably won't get them into trouble but if this is his/hers regular tactic then a few complaints might get him into trouble or at least a look by the powers that be. So I would go ahead and send an email to ANet. Let them know that you realize if you were the first one complaining they may not do anything, you just wanted to a get rapport going so that they could possible start a log on this person.

This leads me to another possibility (but I think it would get way too abused) some type of thread that allows users here to post on bad/scamming players. List character name and type and what exactly they did. After so many complaints on the same character, they get published on that list(being that someone will probably attempt to get someone else in trouble for no reason whatsoever plus misunderstandings do occur and the mods and admins would have to get involved so again I don't know if its even feasible).

We'd have to constitute what is considered bad manners ie charging outrageous prices imo isn't bad manners nor is not knowing what to do but scamming someone or leaving during a mission without a valid reason, I would consider to be wrong. We'd also have to allow the accused the oppurtunity to defend themselves and give their reason or rationale as to why they did.

Pretty much intense thing that could get abused (of course putting in some constraints may ellivaite this but who knows) and probably not doable but hey at least talking about it is better than doing totally nothing. I know in D2 HC on several boards we maintained a listing of known Pkers and Hack pkers so that we knew to avoid any games where those names showed up in.

johnisme · Jun 21, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

If a person intentionally waits to acquire a dropped item to become public before the original owner it was tagged to is rezzed then thats shameless and i would be mad,no need for anybody here who's had this happen to grow up.

Gerbill · Jun 21, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

if someone really waits full 5 minutes for a drop to become public yes then I agree that's lame.

but if you fight and you die at the start of a battle, let's say 1 monk survives.. and it's 4 minutes later and he rezzes a few people it becomes public he picks it up you get rezzed didn't get it.. so be it, afterall you died.. he did not.

Sekkendou · Jun 21, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Bleh, join a real guild and just go with guildmates. Then this sort of crap doesn't happen. If it still happens, you can either leave the guild or get them booted. It all comes down to playing with trustworthy people. In EVERY MMORPG greed will be a huge factor. I've had this same sort of thing happen to me multiple times in pickup teams. It annoyed me more that the idiot was making us all wait to get rezzed than it did he was taking the item. I'm already past the point in GW where money really maters, so people doing this sort of dumb **** doesn't phase me that much.

ICURADik · Jun 21, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by MechaStyle

While doing quests in Underworld, a gold max storm bow dropped for me. I died quickly after I saw it dropped. There was only one person left alive. This person waited around for about 5 minutes, then picked up my bow and proceeded to rez one of the monks.

I'm doubtful anything can be done about this, but I felt like letting everyone know just how pathetic people can be sometimes. I really want this person to be banned, although I guess it is pretty unlikely anything can be done. I took a couple screenshots, one with the person standing next to the bow while it said that it still belonged to me, and one with the text saying he had picked it up. The user name was Liela Eolithic of guild [RR], playing a R/Mo. Any comments or suggestions?

I just talked to him. He says you were a noob, and he sold it for 115k.

wgregory87 · Jun 21, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06

hahaha I've done that to someone for a rune (mind you he went AFK for 5 minutes so I didn't feel the slightest bit bad.) Theres actually 2 ways to look at this. The person that got the drop and is extremely lucky, or the person that didn't get the drop and is extremely unlucky. Now if you're the only person left... maybe the drop is for you at that point.

Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Jun 21, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by MechaStyle

I suggest that they just never let non-quest items become public...

Completely agreed... wow, that would get me incredibly mad...

Arvydas · Jun 22, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by wgregory87

hahaha I've done that to someone for a rune (mind you he went AFK for 5 minutes so I didn't feel the slightest bit bad.) Theres actually 2 ways to look at this. The person that got the drop and is extremely lucky, or the person that didn't get the drop and is extremely unlucky. Now if you're the only person left... maybe the drop is for you at that point.

Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing.

Yeah, they should not let other's see the color of your drops.

sysfailur · Jun 22, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by MechaStyle

I suggest that they just never let non-quest items become public...

Only public if the person disconnects maybe?

MechaStyle · Jun 22, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

I just talked to him. He says you were a noob, and he sold it for 115k.

I was a noob? Rofl... Some rangers are good, but he was the epitome of the typical useless ranger, giving all the good rangers a bad name...pulling mobs onto the casters by accident, doing weak damage, and basically scavenging for drops.

Wrath of m0o · Jun 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

I agree with Konquest's reply. Start the timer when you are revived.

Sekkendou · Jun 22, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39

or just make all drops visible only for the person they dropped for.

Divinus · Jun 22, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I think all non-quest are NEVER public. If you do get disconnected it'd be nice to log back in and have the "loot box" similar to in missions. I'd be pissed if something godly dropped and then my cable went out.

For all of you who keep spatting this "You died, your fault, it should be public" bullshit, you're turning this game into Diablo 2. A bunch of eleven year olds completely ignoring battle and clicking on the map in a seizure-like madness. Completely oblivious to everyone else and only worry about yourself - why PUGs suck ass.

crazy diamond · Jun 22, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42

This is why I always pick everything up, even the stuff I wont use. Being a warrior I'm usualy right there when things drop, so it's not a problem realy.

Personaly, I'd rather trash the stuff I wont use than let it go public and have someone else pick it up.

Fantras · Jun 22, 2005, 07:39 AM // 07:39

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Originally Posted by danfransisdo

You died silly. How can you get mad at that? You are lucky he waited 5 minutes.

/ignore Sir Bakedalot Thank you sir!!!!

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Originally Posted by karl h

ok listen to this
i was with a party at the thirsty river and we had got to the last section where there is three bosses.

there was a 2 gold staffs and a gold peice of armour just behind us reserved for other people

my party charged randomly into the 3 groups and obviously got slaughtered and i managed to escape with the hero as i was the monk hanging away from the combat.

i did not have rebirth but i did have res but it was useless as they died as soon as i ressed them.

so i decided to wait and pick up the gold items myself and they tried to report meand wouldnt stop private messaging me so i had to set them to ignore

now i know for a fact that none of you would charge hopelessly to your deaths if you knew 3 gold items were going to be available in 5 min and you couldnt save your freinds.

so is that still unacceptable to all of you or are you the sort of people that say no to everything if the game doesnt go in their favor all the time.

/ignore leia ellessar Thank you sir!!!

This post is great. These are the only two turd lickers on my ignore list. Worthless *expletive deleted*

Luggage · Jun 22, 2005, 08:04 AM // 08:04

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Originally Posted by Zaklex

your best option is to pickup it up right away(it usually drops were you're fighting so you aren't leaving anyone high and dry).

I take it you play a warrior?

Shadowdaemon · Jun 22, 2005, 08:05 AM // 08:05

it is about 5 minutes on the drops being reserved, so unless you die, i see no reason to leave something lying for 5 minutes unless you didnt see it, and if you didnt see it, you certainly dont know it was yours.

ive had people take my drops in fissure when i have died, oh well, good luck for them, ill even go back with the same group, im not that worried about a few items

and as for people getting in trouble for taking a drop that has went public, you all know they go public after a while, it is so others can pick up what you dont, so people arent going to get in trouble for picking up something they are allowed to.

the one guy kinda makes me mad if he is deliberately avoiding battle just to get the party destroyed to get their drops, however he wont get in trouble either, if you email anet about it they will just tell you not to party with him

KingKryton · Jun 22, 2005, 08:08 AM // 08:08

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Originally Posted by danfrancisdo

Its not stealing, you died. Think about it. A dead person cannot own anything. Why do you think the developers made it possible for the item to be "public"

r u retarded a gold storm bow thats like 500k

FIVE HUNDRED PLATNIUM

XENOGEARSHARINGAN · Jun 22, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22

yeah this truelly suks and it has happen to me. we wer on group to undwerworld and we had this two monk(scamers). so we wer in underworld and wer wer kilin smites i had a stormbow drop, purple, and some other guy had an eternal sheild drop. well we died becuse the monk did not heal us he just ran then he waited about 5 min then picked up our loot and told us if we wnted to be rez to give him 5k. of course wer wer pissed

good thing is he got banned because taht some serius abuse if you tell arenanet about this and have proof of all that he did liek the chats and stuff sometimes they will bann.

Makkert · Jun 22, 2005, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Fantras

/ignore Sir Bakedalot Thank you sir!!!!

/ignore leia ellessar Thank you sir!!!

This post is great. These are the only two turd lickers on my ignore list. Worthless *expletive deleted*

ROTFLMAO.

I would love to add people to my ignore list, but it seems capped at 25. not jus 25 ignore, no. 25 = friends + ignored. and frriends are more important then ignored people, so i find myself emptying my ignore list.
shame, i wish i could extent it.

Jun 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#71
Wrath of m0o Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Ma. Guild: Is That Your Build[HaHa] Profession: P/W	I agree with Konquest's reply. Start the timer when you are revived. Last edited by Wrath of m0o; Jun 22, 2005 at 02:48 AM // 02:48..

Jun 21, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#62
johnisme Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	If a person intentionally waits to acquire a dropped item to become public before the original owner it was tagged to is rezzed then thats shameless and i would be mad,no need for anybody here who's had this happen to grow up.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#63
Gerbill Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Frozen plains. Guild: The Llanowar Legion [LL] Profession: Me/N	if someone really waits full 5 minutes for a drop to become public yes then I agree that's lame. but if you fight and you die at the start of a battle, let's say 1 monk survives.. and it's 4 minutes later and he rezzes a few people it becomes public he picks it up you get rezzed didn't get it.. so be it, afterall you died.. he did not.

Jun 21, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#64
Sekkendou Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Bleh, join a real guild and just go with guildmates. Then this sort of crap doesn't happen. If it still happens, you can either leave the guild or get them booted. It all comes down to playing with trustworthy people. In EVERY MMORPG greed will be a huge factor. I've had this same sort of thing happen to me multiple times in pickup teams. It annoyed me more that the idiot was making us all wait to get rezzed than it did he was taking the item. I'm already past the point in GW where money really maters, so people doing this sort of dumb **** doesn't phase me that much.

Jun 21, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06	#66
wgregory87 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Vancouver Guild: TYSN Profession: Mo/W	hahaha I've done that to someone for a rune (mind you he went AFK for 5 minutes so I didn't feel the slightest bit bad.) Theres actually 2 ways to look at this. The person that got the drop and is extremely lucky, or the person that didn't get the drop and is extremely unlucky. Now if you're the only person left... maybe the drop is for you at that point. Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing.

Jun 22, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39	#72
Sekkendou Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	or just make all drops visible only for the person they dropped for.

Jun 22, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#73
Divinus Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mississippi	I think all non-quest are NEVER public. If you do get disconnected it'd be nice to log back in and have the "loot box" similar to in missions. I'd be pissed if something godly dropped and then my cable went out. For all of you who keep spatting this "You died, your fault, it should be public" bullshit, you're turning this game into Diablo 2. A bunch of eleven year olds completely ignoring battle and clicking on the map in a seizure-like madness. Completely oblivious to everyone else and only worry about yourself - why PUGs suck ass.

Jun 22, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42	#74
crazy diamond Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	This is why I always pick everything up, even the stuff I wont use. Being a warrior I'm usualy right there when things drop, so it's not a problem realy. Personaly, I'd rather trash the stuff I wont use than let it go public and have someone else pick it up.

Jun 22, 2005, 08:05 AM // 08:05	#77
Shadowdaemon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anderson IN USA Guild: Ecks Di [xD] Profession: W/N	it is about 5 minutes on the drops being reserved, so unless you die, i see no reason to leave something lying for 5 minutes unless you didnt see it, and if you didnt see it, you certainly dont know it was yours. ive had people take my drops in fissure when i have died, oh well, good luck for them, ill even go back with the same group, im not that worried about a few items and as for people getting in trouble for taking a drop that has went public, you all know they go public after a while, it is so others can pick up what you dont, so people arent going to get in trouble for picking up something they are allowed to. the one guy kinda makes me mad if he is deliberately avoiding battle just to get the party destroyed to get their drops, however he wont get in trouble either, if you email anet about it they will just tell you not to party with him

Jun 22, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#79
XENOGEARSHARINGAN Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: AUDE Profession: R/	yeah this truelly suks and it has happen to me. we wer on group to undwerworld and we had this two monk(scamers). so we wer in underworld and wer wer kilin smites i had a stormbow drop, purple, and some other guy had an eternal sheild drop. well we died becuse the monk did not heal us he just ran then he waited about 5 min then picked up our loot and told us if we wnted to be rez to give him 5k. of course wer wer pissed good thing is he got banned because taht some serius abuse if you tell arenanet about this and have proof of all that he did liek the chats and stuff sometimes they will bann.