do shadows rangers "cheat" - Guild Wars Forums

Spike · Jul 11, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Why is it that a shadow ranger/impaler can fire a shadow bow twice as fast, four times as far and for ten times the damge I can ? Aslo why do they chase you when your the other side of the mini map to them.

arnansnow · Jul 11, 2005, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Shadow rangers? Never heard of them.

p0t4T0 · Jul 11, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

what is a shadow ranger?

Bueno Star · Jul 11, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by arnansnow

Shadow rangers? Never heard of them.

big ditto on that. i just figured it was a pre-made PvP thing

Fye Duron · Jul 11, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I want to be the sahdow ranger when I grow up...
Well actually I have no idea what your talking about, so please give us a little more info. Like is this PvE? If so where are they found?

Spartan2 · Jul 11, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

He is talking about the Ranger Mobs in Fissure of Woe. The Shadow Rangers there try to do straight up damage and the Impalers like to set traps. Other than that, I do not know what you mean by "cheat".

WickedMirrror · Jul 11, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

I think that Shadow rangers are lvl 28ish (will have to check). At that lvl they would have alot more att. points, I figure lvl 21-25 15pts = 75pts then lvl 25-28 20pt (should get more after 25 as you do after 10 maybe) =60pts

So they have (guessing) 135 more attribute then us, letting them max out more skill lines, so combining them for greater affect.

Just assuming they work the same what our charc. do.

Lasareth · Jul 11, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Iirc, they have the advantage of height most of the time, which adds bonuses to their damage and (I think) range. Otherwise, they probably have stances/preparations which increase attack speed.

MCS · Jul 11, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Yes the NPCs are hacking you've figured it out.

Vilaptca · Jul 11, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by WickedMirrror

I think that Shadow rangers are lvl 28ish (will have to check). At that lvl they would have alot more att. points, I figure lvl 21-25 15pts = 75pts then lvl 25-28 20pt (should get more after 25 as you do after 10 maybe) =60pts

So they have (guessing) 135 more attribute then us, letting them max out more skill lines, so combining them for greater affect.

Just assuming they work the same what our charc. do.

Thats what I've always assumed...dunno if its true yet...

crazy diamond · Jul 11, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

Iirc, they have the advantage of height most of the time, which adds bonuses to their damage and (I think) range. Otherwise, they probably have stances/preparations which increase attack speed.

This here is the answer.

Height increases range, and stances will speed up your attacks significantly. They aren't doing anything a smart ranger couldn't do with the right set of skills.

Freyas · Jul 11, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Shadow Rangers are level 28- meaning they get a big bonus in damage for level difference- just like you would when attacking a level 12 enemy. Along with the higher level comes higher attributes- so they likely have a very high marksmanship attribute to pump up their barrage damage. I'm sure they probably use something like Tiger's Fury for the attack speed as well, and they've got the height advantage on you most of the time, giving a longer attack range, and a damage bonus from that as well.

In any case, it's kinda useless to complain about high-level enemies being stronger than any normal character can be- Why can't every warrior do the same damage as an Aatxe from the Underworld, or elementalists throw out 200+ damage fireballs like some enemies?

Lasher Dragon · Jul 11, 2005, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by MCS

Yes the NPCs are hacking you've figured it out.

This is what I firmly believe. Damn cheating computers!!!!!!

Spike · Jul 12, 2005, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Strange last time i looked shadow rangers where lvl 24 not 28. 4 extra levels still does'nt explian everything. they must be hacking

MCS · Jul 12, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon

This is what I firmly believe. Damn cheating computers!!!!!!

We should start a guild called THN The Hacking NPCs

Kyle · Jul 12, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Freyas

or elementalists throw out 200+ damage fireballs like some enemies?

My ele can throw out 200+ fireballs..........on charr

On lvl 28 Perfected Armor. it does a whopping 18

so depends who u do it too. but to a lvl 20+. no my ele cant do that

MCS · Jul 12, 2005, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Speaking of which, why do charr take extra damage from fire!?

Shouldn't they take LESS from it considering they WORSHIP fire...? Don't they?

By the way I updated my side profile with all my new info, now it's leet.

Fear bAth!

Dark Beast · Jul 12, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Read the little booklet and see that their fur is flamable. :-/ But anyways I'm gonna report those bastard NPc, can't have 1337 haxorz ruining the game for everyone.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jul 12, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19

What you need is a bot that matches the NPC's cheatiness, then you can just see which puter can outsploit the other, waging a furious war while the playerbase is asleep at night and merely dreaming about GW.

Jul 11, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#1
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	do shadows rangers "cheat" Why is it that a shadow ranger/impaler can fire a shadow bow twice as fast, four times as far and for ten times the damge I can ? Aslo why do they chase you when your the other side of the mini map to them.

Jul 11, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39	#12
Freyas Champion of the Absurd Join Date: Jan 2005 Guild: Spirits of War Profession: Mo/W	Shadow Rangers are level 28- meaning they get a big bonus in damage for level difference- just like you would when attacking a level 12 enemy. Along with the higher level comes higher attributes- so they likely have a very high marksmanship attribute to pump up their barrage damage. I'm sure they probably use something like Tiger's Fury for the attack speed as well, and they've got the height advantage on you most of the time, giving a longer attack range, and a damage bonus from that as well. In any case, it's kinda useless to complain about high-level enemies being stronger than any normal character can be- Why can't every warrior do the same damage as an Aatxe from the Underworld, or elementalists throw out 200+ damage fireballs like some enemies? __________________ Freyas- Spirits of War ~The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity

Jul 11, 2005, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#2
arnansnow Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: DOOM Profession: E/N	Shadow rangers? Never heard of them.

Jul 11, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#3
p0t4T0 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Or Die Trying [ODT] Profession: W/Mo	what is a shadow ranger?

Jul 11, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#5
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	I want to be the sahdow ranger when I grow up... Well actually I have no idea what your talking about, so please give us a little more info. Like is this PvE? If so where are they found?

Jul 11, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#6
Spartan2 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Intarweb Guild: Wrath of Nature [WoN] Profession: E/Mo	He is talking about the Ranger Mobs in Fissure of Woe. The Shadow Rangers there try to do straight up damage and the Impalers like to set traps. Other than that, I do not know what you mean by "cheat".

Jul 11, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#7
WickedMirrror Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	I think that Shadow rangers are lvl 28ish (will have to check). At that lvl they would have alot more att. points, I figure lvl 21-25 15pts = 75pts then lvl 25-28 20pt (should get more after 25 as you do after 10 maybe) =60pts So they have (guessing) 135 more attribute then us, letting them max out more skill lines, so combining them for greater affect. Just assuming they work the same what our charc. do.

Jul 11, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#8
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Iirc, they have the advantage of height most of the time, which adds bonuses to their damage and (I think) range. Otherwise, they probably have stances/preparations which increase attack speed.

Jul 11, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#9
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Yes the NPCs are hacking you've figured it out.

Jul 12, 2005, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#14
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	Strange last time i looked shadow rangers where lvl 24 not 28. 4 extra levels still does'nt explian everything. they must be hacking

Jul 12, 2005, 12:36 AM // 00:36	#17
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Speaking of which, why do charr take extra damage from fire!? Shouldn't they take LESS from it considering they WORSHIP fire...? Don't they? By the way I updated my side profile with all my new info, now it's leet. Fear bAth!

Jul 12, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#18
Dark Beast Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005	Read the little booklet and see that their fur is flamable. :-/ But anyways I'm gonna report those bastard NPc, can't have 1337 haxorz ruining the game for everyone.

Jul 12, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19	#19
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	What you need is a bot that matches the NPC's cheatiness, then you can just see which puter can outsploit the other, waging a furious war while the playerbase is asleep at night and merely dreaming about GW.