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God of Anarchy · Jul 10, 2005, 06:48 AM // 06:48

This is intended to be all about necromancers,good skills,good secondarys,minions,armour,etc.
i started this soo i can use it to my advantage beacuse i am goin to start a necromancer,and i just thought i would make a thread and learn more about them soo i know what im getting myself into

a few questions here
1.what secondary?
2.what type of magic?
3.can they solo!?(biggest question)

MCS · Jul 10, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Uh... For what?

Aaaaagh · Jul 10, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

1. Too many options to go through the pros and cons.

2. Well, you have 3 options here.
a. Blood magic--good lifesteal skills, the wells are great
b. Death Magic--The best PvE skill imho, unreal damage, minions, corpse explode
and death nova. Want to solo, this is your baby.
c. Curses--great when you cant get corpses (undead), very handy in PvP.

3. A necro spec'd in death magic can do crazy damage, the problem is they are a bit slow to start, as you need corpses. Blood magic has some nice degen spells, these are good for the begining of the game, but eventually you will want to move to all death magic most likely.

Plommon · Jul 10, 2005, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Im sorry aaagh what did you say? Deathmagic replacing bloodmagic....immense damage......
I have a 16 point blood necro and ill tell you something he is the best character ive played so far. i start by using life siphon and life transfer which gives enemy health degen of 10! and myself health regen of 10! for 12 seconds plus they recharge fairly quickly.
i also use vampiric gaze, touch and and dark pact (which are pretty spammable) that steal 70 health from foe each time. also barbed signet is great when energy drops down (also life steal) i also bring well of blood which gives all my groupmembers who stand there 6 health regen for 22 seconds....
Blood necros are great for GvG, PvE and PvP

Aaaaagh · Jul 10, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Plommon

Im sorry aaagh what did you say? Deathmagic replacing bloodmagic....immense damage......
I have a 16 point blood necro and ill tell you something he is the best character ive played so far. i start by using life siphon and life transfer which gives enemy health degen of 10! and myself health regen of 10! for 12 seconds plus they recharge fairly quickly.
i also use vampiric gaze, touch and and dark pact (which are pretty spammable) that steal 70 health from foe each time. also barbed signet is great when energy drops down (also life steal) i also bring well of blood which gives all my groupmembers who stand there 6 health regen for 22 seconds....
Blood necros are great for GvG, PvE and PvP

Sounds good, when going against 1 monster. Death magic will outdamage the heck out of blood when your fighting multiple opponents...which you normally are. For PvE, I dont think many would agree that blood is better than death. For PvP, Curses enhanced by death would be the way I would go, depending on my secondary, I may not take death at all.

cat1982 · Jul 10, 2005, 11:54 AM // 11:54

N/R was my 1st character....R secondary WHY?!! lol changed that to E and am now running 15 blood magic (love stacking awaken the blood and demonic flesh for some reason) and 12 fire, its great, I used to love death magic when i was starting out, having minions was cool and minion/death nova/taste of death was great but it all got a bit too fussy and situational, 1st u had to have a corpse, then u have to raise the min, then apply the death nova, then the taste of death, just was too much and, as i have said, too fussy for me. Blood magic all the way

C
Xxx

chuckD · Jul 10, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by cat1982

N/R was my 1st character....R secondary WHY?!! lol changed that to E and am now running 15 blood magic (love stacking awaken the blood and demonic flesh for some reason) and 12 fire, its great, I used to love death magic when i was starting out, having minions was cool and minion/death nova/taste of death was great but it all got a bit too fussy and situational, 1st u had to have a corpse, then u have to raise the min, then apply the death nova, then the taste of death, just was too much and, as i have said, too fussy for me. Blood magic all the way

C
Xxx

im N/R.....and "R seconday WHY?!!", i couldnt agree more tbh. I dont use a single ranger skill. Im running 16 death with 10 blood and 4 soul reaping. I love deathly swarm to much to be healthy! combining that and rotting flesh against groups rules, especially if u go to sum of the lower level areas, using deathly swarm u can kill 3 things with 1 shot!

igormak · Jul 10, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

only 1 question: why go necro primary if you dont use death?

Kiiron · Jul 10, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

To be able to bump blood or curses up past 12? Or for the looks =)

God of Anarchy · Jul 11, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38

...thanks for your post guys,i created a necrmancer diddnt get too play with him to much but i did get him past pre-searing,hes lvl 8 right now,made armour i treated him well....but what tye of magic should i add to,to benefit me in the furtrue,i really like the necromancer,yes at first he was kinda slow but now i stack skills and put a hurt'n to my foes,right now im stack'n...deathly swarm,vamp.gaze,life siphon,shadow strike and if they arnt already dead and got a ways to go i use fire storm to finish them off,and for some reason i can use all these skills and not have to much of a energy prob.,ya i have to wait for it to climb back up to ten(energy)sometimes but its not a horrible wait,actually its pretty short

Zap Rider · Jul 11, 2005, 06:02 AM // 06:02

I havent used my N/W for PvP yet but ill tell you this for sure, ive never died 2 or 3 to first in fissure or underwrold. im usually the last to die. why you ask? because if you run around with fully blood magic (im 15pts) just put life siphon on everyoen and you got 10 health regen right there. did i mention that my demonic flesh gives me 200 plus HP for a whole minute? dont even get me start with well of power. 20 seconds everyone in well has health regen of plus 6 and energy of plus 2. If you would like to be a necro use blood. just look down you list all the good stuff has blood req. and also when you get farther in the game if your secondary or primary isnt a monk or warrior people tend to ignore you when makeing groups. so if your like a N/R or a N/M your gonna have a really hard time getting into groups.

Mr Jazzy · Jul 11, 2005, 07:36 AM // 07:36

i play a N/Me with death magic and its pretty cool.
overall i have 55 energy and i combine inspiration magic to keep my energy up.

Ollj · Jul 11, 2005, 08:07 AM // 08:07

1.what secondary?
ANY! (while i start thinking that a N/Wa si the must newcomer friendly necro because of its defensive skills)

2.what type of magic?
ANY!
Use blood to spit on healers (because you wont need anyone anymore)
Use death to spit on warriors (because it makes them obsolent and dead)
Use curses to simply own foes in big groups. (relatively slow but steady, just like a firestorm)

3.can they solo!?(biggest question)
YES! and guess what, with ANY atributes and ANY subclass!

Tooraloom · Jul 11, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

igormak... soul reaping is the necro-primary skill. and it's a beauty (especially combined with the aforementioned death).

It should be noted that blood magic damage (shadow damage and life-stealing) ignores armor completely. Dark Pact, Shadow Strike, and all life stealing abilities really mess armor-dependants up. If you don't think that's significant, stop being stupid.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jul 11, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

I've got a blood/fire toon and he's pretty nasty

God of Anarchy · Jul 12, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

i was watching my friend play in the U/W or fissure...(idk i forgot) today and there was a N/E he was using blood/earth,it was badass they had three warriors they made a "wall" and the necro ran out and gathered up a bunch of enemys and ran behind the warriors the warriors just tanked all the hit no prob. the necro stood back put life siphon on all and i think he used crstal wave or some other earth skill that ayyacked all foes in area,thats one of the deadleast combos ive ever seen in the U/W,but...what i thought was the coolest thing he did was...made a wager(all the shards...they went for it) with the rest of his party that he could take 5 enemys with the three warriors to tank hits at the wall point...no healing,no nothing he won he came out a rich mo fo,AWESOME,and as for the rest of the group they were pissed

Lizard1080 · Jul 12, 2005, 06:51 AM // 06:51

At first i guess people could say i was being stupid because i was using both blood and death magic at the same time. I am a N/R20 and use all blood magic now because there are so much more good spells than death. To me, there are only two spells that are really great for death: Putrid Explosion and Animate Stuff.
To all those N/R that use bows and not staffs like I do, if your not using some of the skills i your skill bar, put some marksmanship skills on there. They will do some good dmg if your marksmanship is lvl12. I found a few days ago that Penetrating Attack, Precision Shot, and Read the Wind make good choices for replacing some of the skills you dont use.
By the way, i just looked at the Awaken the Blood skill and i was wondering if anyone used it? It says, 'For 20-44 seconds, you gain +2 Blood Magic and +2 Curses, but whenever you sacrifice health, you sacrifice 50% more than the normal amount.'. It sounds good to me. I dont use sacrifice health skills so i dont have to worry about that and although i dont use curses, it would still be a benifet to my blood magic. Tell me what you think.

Kiiron · Jul 12, 2005, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Awaken the Blood is an awesome skill so long as you don't bring along too many sacrificing spells (I usually keep just keep blood ritual for the healers/nukers)

Jasso · Jul 12, 2005, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Awaken the Blood is truely awesome necro spell. With it you can pump your blood or curses to 18 which is quite nice. Especially i like the lvl 18 Well of Power, gives +7 health regen and +2 energy for (maybe) 22 secs or so.

God of Anarchy · Jul 14, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

i went N/E i did this so i can somewhat nuke the enemy if i have to,and i use blood and death,hes only lvl 12 soo...i figured ahhh what the hell,i pumped it with minor blood/death and vigor runes i have quite a bit of life nice ammounts of ranks for only being lvl 12,later i will take it all off blood/death(havnt decided on what im going to be yet)max out on one and put some on earth or fire magic,i figured id go earth just beacuse ive never seen a earth magic user and the skills are just badass...leave your comments let me know what ya think

Jul 10, 2005, 06:48 AM // 06:48	#1
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	Necromania This is intended to be all about necromancers,good skills,good secondarys,minions,armour,etc. i started this soo i can use it to my advantage beacuse i am goin to start a necromancer,and i just thought i would make a thread and learn more about them soo i know what im getting myself into a few questions here 1.what secondary? 2.what type of magic? 3.can they solo!?(biggest question)

Jul 12, 2005, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#18
Kiiron Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: La Jolla Profession: Mo/R	Awaken the Blood is an awesome skill so long as you don't bring along too many sacrificing spells (I usually keep just keep blood ritual for the healers/nukers) Last edited by Kiiron; Jul 12, 2005 at 08:18 AM // 08:18..

Jul 10, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#2
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Uh... For what?

Jul 10, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27	#3
Aaaaagh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	1. Too many options to go through the pros and cons. 2. Well, you have 3 options here. a. Blood magic--good lifesteal skills, the wells are great b. Death Magic--The best PvE skill imho, unreal damage, minions, corpse explode and death nova. Want to solo, this is your baby. c. Curses--great when you cant get corpses (undead), very handy in PvP. 3. A necro spec'd in death magic can do crazy damage, the problem is they are a bit slow to start, as you need corpses. Blood magic has some nice degen spells, these are good for the begining of the game, but eventually you will want to move to all death magic most likely.

Jul 10, 2005, 09:02 AM // 09:02	#4
Plommon Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sweden Guild: Shiverpeaks Wolves Profession: N/Mo	Im sorry aaagh what did you say? Deathmagic replacing bloodmagic....immense damage...... I have a 16 point blood necro and ill tell you something he is the best character ive played so far. i start by using life siphon and life transfer which gives enemy health degen of 10! and myself health regen of 10! for 12 seconds plus they recharge fairly quickly. i also use vampiric gaze, touch and and dark pact (which are pretty spammable) that steal 70 health from foe each time. also barbed signet is great when energy drops down (also life steal) i also bring well of blood which gives all my groupmembers who stand there 6 health regen for 22 seconds.... Blood necros are great for GvG, PvE and PvP

Jul 10, 2005, 11:54 AM // 11:54	#6
cat1982 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Order of the Skull	N/R was my 1st character....R secondary WHY?!! lol changed that to E and am now running 15 blood magic (love stacking awaken the blood and demonic flesh for some reason) and 12 fire, its great, I used to love death magic when i was starting out, having minions was cool and minion/death nova/taste of death was great but it all got a bit too fussy and situational, 1st u had to have a corpse, then u have to raise the min, then apply the death nova, then the taste of death, just was too much and, as i have said, too fussy for me. Blood magic all the way C Xxx

Jul 10, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43	#8
igormak Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Latvia moved to London Guild: LOKI Profession: N/E	only 1 question: why go necro primary if you dont use death?

Jul 10, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#9
Kiiron Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: La Jolla Profession: Mo/R	To be able to bump blood or curses up past 12? Or for the looks =)

Jul 11, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38	#10
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	...thanks for your post guys,i created a necrmancer diddnt get too play with him to much but i did get him past pre-searing,hes lvl 8 right now,made armour i treated him well....but what tye of magic should i add to,to benefit me in the furtrue,i really like the necromancer,yes at first he was kinda slow but now i stack skills and put a hurt'n to my foes,right now im stack'n...deathly swarm,vamp.gaze,life siphon,shadow strike and if they arnt already dead and got a ways to go i use fire storm to finish them off,and for some reason i can use all these skills and not have to much of a energy prob.,ya i have to wait for it to climb back up to ten(energy)sometimes but its not a horrible wait,actually its pretty short

Jul 11, 2005, 06:02 AM // 06:02	#11
Zap Rider Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Dark Trojan Profession: N/W	I havent used my N/W for PvP yet but ill tell you this for sure, ive never died 2 or 3 to first in fissure or underwrold. im usually the last to die. why you ask? because if you run around with fully blood magic (im 15pts) just put life siphon on everyoen and you got 10 health regen right there. did i mention that my demonic flesh gives me 200 plus HP for a whole minute? dont even get me start with well of power. 20 seconds everyone in well has health regen of plus 6 and energy of plus 2. If you would like to be a necro use blood. just look down you list all the good stuff has blood req. and also when you get farther in the game if your secondary or primary isnt a monk or warrior people tend to ignore you when makeing groups. so if your like a N/R or a N/M your gonna have a really hard time getting into groups.

Jul 11, 2005, 07:36 AM // 07:36	#12
Mr Jazzy Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cali Guild: Mending For The [win] Profession: W/A	i play a N/Me with death magic and its pretty cool. overall i have 55 energy and i combine inspiration magic to keep my energy up.

Jul 11, 2005, 08:07 AM // 08:07	#13
Ollj Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	1.what secondary? ANY! (while i start thinking that a N/Wa si the must newcomer friendly necro because of its defensive skills) 2.what type of magic? ANY! Use blood to spit on healers (because you wont need anyone anymore) Use death to spit on warriors (because it makes them obsolent and dead) Use curses to simply own foes in big groups. (relatively slow but steady, just like a firestorm) 3.can they solo!?(biggest question) YES! and guess what, with ANY atributes and ANY subclass!

Jul 11, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#14
Tooraloom Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	igormak... soul reaping is the necro-primary skill. and it's a beauty (especially combined with the aforementioned death). It should be noted that blood magic damage (shadow damage and life-stealing) ignores armor completely. Dark Pact, Shadow Strike, and all life stealing abilities really mess armor-dependants up. If you don't think that's significant, stop being stupid.

Jul 11, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01	#15
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	I've got a blood/fire toon and he's pretty nasty

Jul 12, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24	#16
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	i was watching my friend play in the U/W or fissure...(idk i forgot) today and there was a N/E he was using blood/earth,it was badass they had three warriors they made a "wall" and the necro ran out and gathered up a bunch of enemys and ran behind the warriors the warriors just tanked all the hit no prob. the necro stood back put life siphon on all and i think he used crstal wave or some other earth skill that ayyacked all foes in area,thats one of the deadleast combos ive ever seen in the U/W,but...what i thought was the coolest thing he did was...made a wager(all the shards...they went for it) with the rest of his party that he could take 5 enemys with the three warriors to tank hits at the wall point...no healing,no nothing he won he came out a rich mo fo,AWESOME,and as for the rest of the group they were pissed

Jul 12, 2005, 06:51 AM // 06:51	#17
Lizard1080 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia Guild: Dogs of Georgia Smite Profession: N/R	At first i guess people could say i was being stupid because i was using both blood and death magic at the same time. I am a N/R20 and use all blood magic now because there are so much more good spells than death. To me, there are only two spells that are really great for death: Putrid Explosion and Animate Stuff. To all those N/R that use bows and not staffs like I do, if your not using some of the skills i your skill bar, put some marksmanship skills on there. They will do some good dmg if your marksmanship is lvl12. I found a few days ago that Penetrating Attack, Precision Shot, and Read the Wind make good choices for replacing some of the skills you dont use. By the way, i just looked at the Awaken the Blood skill and i was wondering if anyone used it? It says, 'For 20-44 seconds, you gain +2 Blood Magic and +2 Curses, but whenever you sacrifice health, you sacrifice 50% more than the normal amount.'. It sounds good to me. I dont use sacrifice health skills so i dont have to worry about that and although i dont use curses, it would still be a benifet to my blood magic. Tell me what you think.

Jul 12, 2005, 08:31 AM // 08:31	#19
Jasso Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Profession: N/Mo	Awaken the Blood is truely awesome necro spell. With it you can pump your blood or curses to 18 which is quite nice. Especially i like the lvl 18 Well of Power, gives +7 health regen and +2 energy for (maybe) 22 secs or so.

Jul 14, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00	#20
God of Anarchy Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Godz Of Anarchy Profession: N/E	i went N/E i did this so i can somewhat nuke the enemy if i have to,and i use blood and death,hes only lvl 12 soo...i figured ahhh what the hell,i pumped it with minor blood/death and vigor runes i have quite a bit of life nice ammounts of ranks for only being lvl 12,later i will take it all off blood/death(havnt decided on what im going to be yet)max out on one and put some on earth or fire magic,i figured id go earth just beacuse ive never seen a earth magic user and the skills are just badass...leave your comments let me know what ya think