What the heckfire is happening to the economy? - Guild Wars Forums

Ancient-001 · Aug 11, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00

There might be another post about this aroud, but I havent seen it.

I've noticed over the past week that prices for items at the traders have become increasingly irratic. Black dye was selling for 28p last I checked, up from 8p just a week ago. Other dyes have increased in price exponentially as well. Materials have shot up too, 4p for 10 fur squares, and such. But what makes it so disturbing is that the higher to traders are selling things, the less they are willing to pay for them.

Buy red dye for 1500g, sell it for 1g...1g?!

10 fur squares for 4p, sell them for 300g?

While the more modest priced dyes that traders sell for 600, they buy for 200.

The idea of supply and demand just aint working here. I thought I read in some notice by NCsoft that they would be adjusting things to weed out bots or something like that. So are they simply inflating the trader economy to get rid of them, or is this just the side effect of all these bots people keep screaming about. I havent noticed any bots myself, I cant even imagine why they would be needed in a game like this anyway. You can be succesfull and rich without needless grinding or even farming for that matter, there arnt even any money sinks besides a single set of gaudy armor later in the game anyway. I've only been playing casually for 2 months and I've already got about 70% of the skills and crud unlocked. How lazy do you have to be to "buy" gold in this game?

Boubou · Aug 11, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

At lunch time, I wanted to know how much I can sell my sup. protection rune to a trader... 25 gold !? But if I want another one, it's something like 44k !

I just hope I misread and it was 25 plat, the selling price of course

Mugon M. Musashi · Aug 11, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Ancient-001

There might be another post about this aroud, but I havent seen it.

there are like a dozen of them and they are everywhere

baalzamonbarnes · Aug 11, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by Ancient-001

There might be another post about this aroud, but I havent seen it.

I swear I've seen at least 5 new threads per day about the economy. We know about it already. ANet knows about it already. What more do you want?

Mr Zun · Aug 11, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12

No u dint miss read its 25gld as far as the economy thing goes trust me dude its been beat to a pulp in these forums ppl that use bots will always use them and will allways create a mess of the economy and ppl that buy things from these ppl that use bots are just dumm noobs that r too lazy to just go out and get the items them selfs or too ignorant that they dont know they can.

PST · Aug 11, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16

i have the answer, yay! lol

It's because GW banned a lot of bots recently (it says in the GW site) so there is less availiblity of things, meaning the prices will be increased and screwed up.

The good news is that you can expect good loot from the Fissure and the upcoming "Sorrow's Furnace" to make enough money for runes, dye, etc.

Either that or GW needs to fix A LOT of bugs, u won't expect that in any less than a week though. Make sure to keep tabs with the updates at the GW site though.

Aldrich of Ascalon · Aug 11, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by baalzamonbarnes

I swear I've seen at least 5 new threads per day about the economy. We know about it already. ANet knows about it already. What more do you want?

them to fix it?

baalzamonbarnes · Aug 11, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Aldrich of Ascalon

them to fix it?

They've said they're working on it. Can you not wait the few days for the new update? Or does everything have to be right now?

Ancient-001 · Aug 11, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Sorry this has been just another in a seemingly long line of threads about this, like I said I didnt see any when I looked. I'm rather new here. I hope you are correct that the problem is being addressed. I think NCsoft is a bit better at keeping on top of things than some MMO companies.

Boubou · Aug 11, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by PST

It's because GW banned a lot of bots recently (it says in the GW site) so there is less availiblity of things, meaning the prices will be increased and screwed up.

Don't forget to add the fact that a build using superior runes from Monk have been posted on this forum... that created a great demand !

Boubou · Aug 11, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Ahumm.. price went up a bit.. i could sell my sup. protect for 800 gold now.. and buy one for 3k !!

Ultimate_Gaara · Aug 11, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

people should really do searches before they post and econ thread... this is getting old, very old, i don't see why everyone blames Anet for the econ problem when it is clearly the players, they choose not to sell dyes to traders and they always buy them from the traders, it does not take a person with an genius to figure out what its going to happen.. i hate how everyone looks to Anet to solve the probem when we as players can do it ourselves... oh wait i forgot everyone in this game is a needy child and is too lazy to solve their own problems

/sigh

Chev of Hardass · Aug 11, 2005, 10:52 PM // 22:52

* Improved traders so that they maintain more stable prices and closer spreads between buy and sell prices.

* Improved traders so that traders from all regions (America, Europe, and Korea) now buy and sell from the same stock and charge the same prices.

I think A.Net may have fixed the economy, in many ways. Also, they may have stopped people from defecting to other servers to exploit price differences.

Yeaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I can buy........... Oh wait? Nothing. But, at least threads like this should taper off.

BrynMaw · Aug 11, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05

What the heckfire is happening to the economy?

Heckfire?!

Kha · Aug 11, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi

there are like a dozen of them and they are everywhere

Enough said.

Closed.

Aug 11, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00	#1
Ancient-001 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Saftey Dancers Profession: Mo/R	What the heckfire is happening to the economy? There might be another post about this aroud, but I havent seen it. I've noticed over the past week that prices for items at the traders have become increasingly irratic. Black dye was selling for 28p last I checked, up from 8p just a week ago. Other dyes have increased in price exponentially as well. Materials have shot up too, 4p for 10 fur squares, and such. But what makes it so disturbing is that the higher to traders are selling things, the less they are willing to pay for them. Buy red dye for 1500g, sell it for 1g...1g?! 10 fur squares for 4p, sell them for 300g? While the more modest priced dyes that traders sell for 600, they buy for 200. The idea of supply and demand just aint working here. I thought I read in some notice by NCsoft that they would be adjusting things to weed out bots or something like that. So are they simply inflating the trader economy to get rid of them, or is this just the side effect of all these bots people keep screaming about. I havent noticed any bots myself, I cant even imagine why they would be needed in a game like this anyway. You can be succesfull and rich without needless grinding or even farming for that matter, there arnt even any money sinks besides a single set of gaudy armor later in the game anyway. I've only been playing casually for 2 months and I've already got about 70% of the skills and crud unlocked. How lazy do you have to be to "buy" gold in this game?

Aug 11, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02	#2
Boubou Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Guild: L'ordre [LO] Profession: Mo/W	At lunch time, I wanted to know how much I can sell my sup. protection rune to a trader... 25 gold !? But if I want another one, it's something like 44k ! I just hope I misread and it was 25 plat, the selling price of course

Aug 11, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12	#5
Mr Zun Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Twin Dragons Profession: E/N	No u dint miss read its 25gld as far as the economy thing goes trust me dude its been beat to a pulp in these forums ppl that use bots will always use them and will allways create a mess of the economy and ppl that buy things from these ppl that use bots are just dumm noobs that r too lazy to just go out and get the items them selfs or too ignorant that they dont know they can.

Aug 11, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16	#6
PST Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Black Mesa Got U [cotr] Profession: W/E	i have the answer, yay! lol It's because GW banned a lot of bots recently (it says in the GW site) so there is less availiblity of things, meaning the prices will be increased and screwed up. The good news is that you can expect good loot from the Fissure and the upcoming "Sorrow's Furnace" to make enough money for runes, dye, etc. Either that or GW needs to fix A LOT of bugs, u won't expect that in any less than a week though. Make sure to keep tabs with the updates at the GW site though.

Aug 11, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#9
Ancient-001 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Saftey Dancers Profession: Mo/R	Sorry this has been just another in a seemingly long line of threads about this, like I said I didnt see any when I looked. I'm rather new here. I hope you are correct that the problem is being addressed. I think NCsoft is a bit better at keeping on top of things than some MMO companies.

Aug 11, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#11
Boubou Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Guild: L'ordre [LO] Profession: Mo/W	Ahumm.. price went up a bit.. i could sell my sup. protect for 800 gold now.. and buy one for 3k !!

Aug 11, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10	#12
Ultimate_Gaara Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?	people should really do searches before they post and econ thread... this is getting old, very old, i don't see why everyone blames Anet for the econ problem when it is clearly the players, they choose not to sell dyes to traders and they always buy them from the traders, it does not take a person with an genius to figure out what its going to happen.. i hate how everyone looks to Anet to solve the probem when we as players can do it ourselves... oh wait i forgot everyone in this game is a needy child and is too lazy to solve their own problems /sigh

Aug 11, 2005, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#13
Chev of Hardass Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under a rock Guild: zP Profession: Me/	* Improved traders so that they maintain more stable prices and closer spreads between buy and sell prices. * Improved traders so that traders from all regions (America, Europe, and Korea) now buy and sell from the same stock and charge the same prices. I think A.Net may have fixed the economy, in many ways. Also, they may have stopped people from defecting to other servers to exploit price differences. Yeaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I can buy........... Oh wait? Nothing. But, at least threads like this should taper off.

Aug 11, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#14
BrynMaw Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: OaP Profession: R/E	What the heckfire is happening to the economy? Heckfire?!