PET ATTRIBUTE & LOCATION GUIDE - Guild Wars Forums

Dragon Incarnate · May 24, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

I'm creating this guide for my guild, and thought I'd share.

FYI: Testing is underway to provide exact numbers on the various pets. This information is based on player feedback, but will more than likely change once the testing is complete! So far the information for Stalker and Lizard may be changing to show them as almost comparible. I'll update this post once the test are completed.

Available Pets:
This is a general list of the kinds of pets, not name-specific listing of pets.

Bear
Bird
Cat
Lizard
Warthog
Wolf
Spider

-- :: PET ATTRIBUTES :: --
Note that pet abilities are also tied to your level of Beast Mastery.
The higher your attribute level the greater the pet. Information
gathered from various posts, especially from GammaRay on gwonline.net.

:TANK:

Bear - Slow Speed, High Damage, High Armor - The bear uses the skill
called Brutal Mauling. When being attacked by pre-searing aggressive
bears, the skill doesn't seem to do any more damage than normal attacks.
As the bear's attack power increases, it may have a more noticeable
effect (it might just be a 10% increase or something, that you wouldn't
notice at the base 5~7 damage).

:MEDIUM DAMAGE/MEDIUM ARMOR:

Warthog - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor

Wolf - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor

:HIGH DAMAGE/LOW ARMOR:

Lynx (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor

Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor

:HIGH SPEED/LOW DAMAGE:

Moa Bird - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor

Strider (Bird) - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor

:ABOVE AVERAGE SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE:

Dune Lizard - Above Average Speed, High Damage, Below Average Armor

:LOW SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE:

Dire Black Widow Spider - Low Speed, High Damage & Poison Attacks -
Unknown Armor - touted as the most powerful pet in the game by the
handful that have gotten one. They start at level 20. Information is
sketchy on this, someone else with a spider has stated, "It had averge
damage, averge attack speed, averge defense, not alot of hp (i think)...
and have very very very low chance of poisioning (not completely sure on
the poison part yet)"

-- :: LOCATIONS FOR TAMING :: --

PRE-SEARING:

Bear - Wizard's Folly* (no longer available - patched)
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Reagent Valley
Strider (Bird) - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Northernlands
Wolf - Ascalon Fields, Reagent Valley

POST-SEARING:

Bear - Lornar's Pass
Dire Black Widow Spider - Underworld (after setting the reaper free at the monument near the tortured spirit village)
Dune Lizard - Amnoon Oasis
Lynx - Kryta Areas
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Old Ascalon**
Moa Bird - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Denravi Areas
Wolf - Shiverpeaks

** - There's only one on the map, to the far West, near Gate Guard
Hollis (entrance to the Breach).

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The Dragon Guild

Ginko · May 24, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55

The search button is your friend.

--Ginko

Dragon Incarnate · May 24, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginko

The search button is your friend.

--Ginko

This is a compilation of info on pets not questions on pets, no reason for me to search the forums for information I've already compiled.

Ginko · May 24, 2005, 10:33 PM // 22:33

There are numerous threads and posts on Guild Wars Guru that have the same information as this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rook818

...and Ginko, his post is good natured and he's trying to be helpful. I'm not sure your response is warranted.

I never said it wasn't good natured, I'm simply stating that there are multiple sources on this topic and creating another one isn't needed.

--Ginko

rook818 · May 24, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I for one am grateful for the post. Thanks Dragon.

...and Ginko, his post is good natured and he's trying to be helpful. I'm not sure your response is warranted.

Ichorspring · May 25, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

This information should go into a permanent guide. There is a space setup for it under Creatures of Tyria (Tamable)...but of course, its empty. Enough people have questions about it that a permanent and comprehensive listing should be available. This is a good start towards accumulating all the data spread across multiple threads.

Tormunda · May 25, 2005, 07:02 AM // 07:02

This is very helpfull, no matter what the 'Use Search' wingers say.

Jizzy · May 25, 2005, 07:46 AM // 07:46

This is good info.

Had a pet fight in the arena. Bird vs lizard with no outside interference. The bird won. Unfortunately I didn't ask how much beast mastery the lizard's ranger had but I had 8.

Shadow_Avenger · May 25, 2005, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzy

This is good info.

Had a pet fight in the arena. Bird vs lizard with no outside interference. The bird won. Unfortunately I didn't ask how much beast mastery the lizard's ranger had but I had 8.

Yep, and that is something I would actually like to know.
Beastmasters, the points spent in ratio to improved Damage / AC / HP for pet.
With the skills it is actually fairly easy to see, but other than that it is total guess work.

I use my pet Lizard alot, but only have 5 points in Beast mastery, I use it as a tank / distraction and a general way of chewing away at monsters HP.

Is it worth the points if you dont use the skills?
How much does the beastmastery actually effect the base abilities of your pet?

If very little, then if you use your pet as I do, there would be little to no point in putting points in beast mastery and they could be used more effectively elsewhere.

Vermilion Okeanos · May 25, 2005, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Actually I realize that there are different type of black widow...

The one about the averge dmg/speed/armor/hp was on the "elder" black widow, not dire.

I believe that each prefix is different.
Dire- more offense, less defense
Elder- averge
hearty- more defense, less offense

Also, I am afraid that each pet might have more resistance against specific element of attacks.... might... back in bwe, my warthog take less damage from a lightning orb than me when I was wearing aeromancer armor.

Green_Lantern · May 25, 2005, 09:46 AM // 09:46

where is the tamable Hydra, I want it!

Leventh · May 25, 2005, 12:31 PM // 12:31

well organized, thank you.

Madjik · May 25, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05

There are snow wolves around yaks bend or borlis pass (ugh, SOMEWHERE in the shiverpeaks), arent these tamable too? I havent tried, im to partial to my melandru's stalker.

Lasher Dragon · May 25, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madjik

There are snow wolves around yaks bend or borlis pass (ugh, SOMEWHERE in the shiverpeaks), arent these tamable too? I havent tried, im to partial to my melandru's stalker.

Yes they are, my pet Chopper hailed from just outside Yak's Bend. He has been retired though, I now have an Elder Black Widow named Ananasi in his place.

Dragon Incarnate · May 25, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger

Yep, and that is something I would actually like to know.
Beastmasters, the points spent in ratio to improved Damage / AC / HP for pet.
With the skills it is actually fairly easy to see, but other than that it is total guess work.

I use my pet Lizard alot, but only have 5 points in Beast mastery, I use it as a tank / distraction and a general way of chewing away at monsters HP.

Is it worth the points if you dont use the skills?
How much does the beastmastery actually effect the base abilities of your pet?

If very little, then if you use your pet as I do, there would be little to no point in putting points in beast mastery and they could be used more effectively elsewhere.

More info from the tests being done:

First to answer one question, pets have the same base level HP as we do at corresponding levels. Now there should be no more arguement over what pet has the best HP -- it's all about the pet's natural AL. So far it looks like the Stalker and Lizard have the same Armor Level (60).

Beastmastery seems to influence the pet's power just like Marksmanship, Swordsmanship, Hammer Mastery, and Axe Mastery do, for future reference. At 0, the pet does something like 35% damage, and at 12 it's doing 100% damage. Indications that damage increase after 12 points is relatively minor for swords and other melee weapons means that for the most part, it's probably not really worth getting 16 BM unless you want to crank the most out of your pet heals and attack skills.

Weapon masteries after 12 do have diminished power increases. 13 has 104%, 14 has 107%, and so on and so forth. It's really just not worth the trouble, the expense, and the drain on your HP to load up to 16 on weapon mastery attributes. Beastmastery seems to follow the pattern, so you should be good at 12 BM.

If you use a major rune of beast mastery on a tamer's mask, you'll get +3 BM. Counter the HP loss with a superior vigor rune (or major if you won't miss the 10 HP). Boost your BM up to 9, so that you now have 12 (9+3) BM total. You've just saved yourself 49 attribute points over having brought your BM up to 12 without any modifiers. With the right runes and equipment, you can make yourself quite diverse.

Thank you to all those who appreciate this information, hopefully this is helpful. As a note, most of this information is being gathered from those performing the test, I'm just sharing the information.

Dragon Incarnate · May 26, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Thanks to Lasher Dragon for pointing this out. In my previous post I had mistakenly added a line which stated that a 16 attribute in Marksmanship would = 115%. This was copied from a different source, and I didn't proof-read my post good enough. I went ahead and removed that line. Based on my calculations a 16 in any weapon attribute would = 110%. If this is a mistake please let me know.

Darkest Dawn · May 26, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Very informative thread, many thanks to the author!

BigTru · Jul 11, 2005, 02:46 AM // 02:46

This thread has so much misinformation...

If you want actual tested NUMBERS, look here: http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....&postcount=123

All pets have the same Armor Level and attack speed and damage (with the exception of the spider, which has more damage output).

Sorry if this sounds rude, but it just seems like you were pulling infor out your ass.

Demon Rebel · Jul 12, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Awesome Post - Thanx Dragon...

BigTru - who made both of these posts -> on this forum? and -> on the other forum? is there any correlation?

Divine Elemental · Jul 12, 2005, 06:15 AM // 06:15

I Have A Spider...
It Doesnt Poison Yet I Have Her Over 3 Weeks.....
They Have High Armor,Low Health
Average Attack Speed,High Damage.
As Far As Ive Seen ... :P

And They Look So FUGLY
Id Rather Have A Moa Bird Anytime

They Grow Taller Than You

May 24, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18	#1
Dragon Incarnate Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Dragon Guild	Pet Attribute & Location Guide I'm creating this guide for my guild, and thought I'd share. FYI: Testing is underway to provide exact numbers on the various pets. This information is based on player feedback, but will *more than likely* change once the testing is complete! So far the information for Stalker and Lizard may be changing to show them as almost comparible. I'll update this post once the test are completed. Available Pets: This is a general list of the kinds of pets, not name-specific listing of pets. Bear Bird Cat Lizard Warthog Wolf Spider -- :: PET ATTRIBUTES :: -- Note that pet abilities are also tied to your level of Beast Mastery. The higher your attribute level the greater the pet. Information gathered from various posts, especially from GammaRay on gwonline.net. :TANK: Bear - Slow Speed, High Damage, High Armor - The bear uses the skill called Brutal Mauling. When being attacked by pre-searing aggressive bears, the skill doesn't seem to do any more damage than normal attacks. As the bear's attack power increases, it may have a more noticeable effect (it might just be a 10% increase or something, that you wouldn't notice at the base 5~7 damage). :MEDIUM DAMAGE/MEDIUM ARMOR: Warthog - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor Wolf - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor :HIGH DAMAGE/LOW ARMOR: Lynx (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor :HIGH SPEED/LOW DAMAGE: Moa Bird - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor Strider (Bird) - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor :ABOVE AVERAGE SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE: Dune Lizard - Above Average Speed, High Damage, Below Average Armor :LOW SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE: Dire Black Widow Spider - Low Speed, High Damage & Poison Attacks - Unknown Armor - touted as the most powerful pet in the game by the handful that have gotten one. They start at level 20. Information is sketchy on this, someone else with a spider has stated, "It had averge damage, averge attack speed, averge defense, not alot of hp (i think)... and have very very very low chance of poisioning (not completely sure on the poison part yet)" -- :: LOCATIONS FOR TAMING :: -- PRE-SEARING: Bear - Wizard's Folly* (no longer available - patched) Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Reagent Valley Strider (Bird) - Ascalon fields Warthog - Northernlands Wolf - Ascalon Fields, Reagent Valley POST-SEARING: Bear - Lornar's Pass Dire Black Widow Spider - Underworld (after setting the reaper free at the monument near the tortured spirit village) Dune Lizard - Amnoon Oasis Lynx - Kryta Areas Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Old Ascalon Moa Bird - Ascalon fields Warthog - Denravi Areas Wolf - Shiverpeaks - There's only one on the map, to the far West, near Gate Guard Hollis (entrance to the Breach). ----------------------------------------------------------------- The Dragon Guild Last edited by Dragon Incarnate; May 24, 2005 at 09:37 PM // 21:37..

May 24, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#2
Ginko Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: The Illuminati	The search button is your friend. --Ginko Last edited by Ginko; May 24, 2005 at 10:02 PM // 22:02..

Jul 12, 2005, 06:15 AM // 06:15	#20
Divine Elemental Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Your House Guild: I Used To Own [ IUTO ]	Spider I Have A Spider... It Doesnt Poison Yet I Have Her Over 3 Weeks..... They Have High Armor,Low Health Average Attack Speed,High Damage. As Far As Ive Seen ... :P And They Look So FUGLY Id Rather Have A Moa Bird Anytime They Grow Taller Than You

May 24, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#5
rook818 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	I for one am grateful for the post. Thanks Dragon. ...and Ginko, his post is good natured and he's trying to be helpful. I'm not sure your response is warranted.

May 25, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#6
Ichorspring Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Profession: Me/	This information should go into a permanent guide. There is a space setup for it under Creatures of Tyria (Tamable)...but of course, its empty. Enough people have questions about it that a permanent and comprehensive listing should be available. This is a good start towards accumulating all the data spread across multiple threads.

May 25, 2005, 07:02 AM // 07:02	#7
Tormunda Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	This is very helpfull, no matter what the 'Use Search' wingers say.

May 25, 2005, 07:46 AM // 07:46	#8
Jizzy Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	This is good info. Had a pet fight in the arena. Bird vs lizard with no outside interference. The bird won. Unfortunately I didn't ask how much beast mastery the lizard's ranger had but I had 8.

May 25, 2005, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#10
Vermilion Okeanos Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005	Actually I realize that there are different type of black widow... The one about the averge dmg/speed/armor/hp was on the "elder" black widow, not dire. I believe that each prefix is different. Dire- more offense, less defense Elder- averge hearty- more defense, less offense Also, I am afraid that each pet might have more resistance against specific element of attacks.... might... back in bwe, my warthog take less damage from a lightning orb than me when I was wearing aeromancer armor.

May 25, 2005, 09:46 AM // 09:46	#11
Green_Lantern Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	where is the tamable Hydra, I want it!

May 25, 2005, 12:31 PM // 12:31	#12
Leventh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: michigan Guild: Unforgiven Clan [UF] Profession: R/Me	well organized, thank you.

May 25, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05	#13
Madjik Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere, U.S.A. Guild: Gold Pheonix	There are snow wolves around yaks bend or borlis pass (ugh, SOMEWHERE in the shiverpeaks), arent these tamable too? I havent tried, im to partial to my melandru's stalker.

May 26, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#16
Dragon Incarnate Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Dragon Guild	Thanks to Lasher Dragon for pointing this out. In my previous post I had mistakenly added a line which stated that a 16 attribute in Marksmanship would = 115%. This was copied from a different source, and I didn't proof-read my post good enough. I went ahead and removed that line. Based on my calculations a 16 in any weapon attribute would = 110%. If this is a mistake please let me know.

May 26, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51	#17
Darkest Dawn Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio, USA Profession: W/Mo	Very informative thread, many thanks to the author!

Jul 11, 2005, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#18
BigTru Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	This thread has so much misinformation... If you want actual tested NUMBERS, look here: http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....&postcount=123 All pets have the same Armor Level and attack speed and damage (with the exception of the spider, which has more damage output). Sorry if this sounds rude, but it just seems like you were pulling infor out your ass.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33	#19
Demon Rebel Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Phoenix, Az Guild: Kings of Chaos Knights (KoCK) Profession: W/Me	Awesome Post - Thanx Dragon... BigTru - who made both of these posts -> on this forum? and -> on the other forum? is there any correlation?