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Nanood · Aug 31, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Hi..
I was doing thirsty river for a bit of farming last night and i noticed my energy bar.. My normal energy rating for my e/me20 is 90. So after killing a few giants and getting my bonus to 10% I checked to see that my skill bar said I had a maximum energy of 97. 97? I was under the impression that 10% of 90 was 9. Therefore I should have 99 energy. Well thats what I thought.. Have I been wrong all these years and was my maths teacher right when she said i'd never amount to anything playing all these stupid computer games...... Or was that my girlfriend who said that... Or my father... Or my

Lasareth · Aug 31, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Orrr...

-You were exhausted
-Your focus/wand has energy under certain conditions
-You didn't have 90 to begin with
-Your bonus wasn't 10% of the time of checking

The computer doesn't... normally make math errors.

Epiph · Aug 31, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16

ooh. 2 energy diffrence. stop the hurricane rescue and fix the problem. omg.

Caelus The Fallen · Aug 31, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I think its like runes and death penalty: some of the bonuses are added AFTER the percent change of a DP/Moral Boost, so presumabley you had a +20 of some kind to your energy.

Rather than 90 becoming (90+10%)=99,

you get:

70+20 becoming (70+10%)+20=97

It wouldnt have to be exactly +20 either, since it has to round to a whole number.

Nanood · Aug 31, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Hehe.. i was wondering if one of the first replies would be.. 2 energy who cares..

And your right i dont really care about it...

Anyway.. I had no dp

Without any energy mods my energy level is 66 (15 in attributes)

Superior nrg storage +9 = 75
Energy head piece + 3 = 78

Fire wand (no energy mod)
Flame artifact (energy +12) = 90

So in total 90 nrg + 10% Bonus = 97 ??

Jenosavel · Aug 31, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17

How about this?

(66 * 1.1) + 9 + 3 + 12 = 96.6 = 97

So the 10% is applied before your energy mods.

Kamatsu · Aug 31, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

no..

(78 +10%) + 12 = 97.8, rounded down to 97!

There's your answer.

Moral boost obviously doesn't take into account energy gained from wands/focii and only takes into account your base energy boosted by energy storage. This would mean that the moral boost is applied to your base energy minus any energy from wands/focii and after applying the moral boost the game then adds any energy from wands/focii and then rounds any decimal down to a full number.

To illustrate...

Your base energy w/ES is 78 - and 10% of that us 7.8
78 + 7.8 = 85.8 <-- moral boosted energy
85.8 + 12 energy from focii = 97.8 <-- energy after wand/focii added
rounded down = 97 <-- final energy

And this explains why you have 97 energy and not 99 energy. Promblem solved.

Jenosavel - Hmm.. question is, does the game round down or up... and when does moral boost get applied to energy. Before any mods are done, or after base attribute mods are applied? NVM - looks like Ensign answered this :P

anways.. do have a question.. what does he mean by "Superior nrg storage +9" anyways? If he already has 15 in ES.. and a sup energy rune is only +3 .. what the hell is this anyways? Where'd the +9 come from?

Like I know the +3 from headgear is +1 headgear & Major ES Rune.. but what the heck is that +9 he's talking about?

Ensign · Aug 31, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

As mentioned, morale bonus / death penalty only affects *base* health and energy. On health, 10% Morale Bonus means +48 health for every level 20 character, since every other bonus or penalty is from equipment. For energy, normally this only works on the base 20 energy of a character, giving +2 energy at the full 10% morale bonus.

For an Elementalist, Morale Bonus / Death Penalty also affects your bonuses from Energy Storage.

In your case, it looks like you're using an Elementalist with a standard focus and level 16 Energy Storage. That means you have 22 energy from equipment bonuses, and 68 'base' energy, so a 10% Morale Bonus would give you 10% of that base, or 6.8 energy rounded to 7.

Peace,
-CxE

Aug 31, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#1
Nanood Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Supermans Crystal Palace Guild: Legion Of The Dark Sun	Bonus Kill Percentage Question. Can I count? Hi.. I was doing thirsty river for a bit of farming last night and i noticed my energy bar.. My normal energy rating for my e/me20 is 90. So after killing a few giants and getting my bonus to 10% I checked to see that my skill bar said I had a maximum energy of 97. 97? I was under the impression that 10% of 90 was 9. Therefore I should have 99 energy. Well thats what I thought.. Have I been wrong all these years and was my maths teacher right when she said i'd never amount to anything playing all these stupid computer games...... Or was that my girlfriend who said that... Or my father... Or my

Aug 31, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00	#5
Nanood Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Supermans Crystal Palace Guild: Legion Of The Dark Sun	Yeah Yeah :) Hehe.. i was wondering if one of the first replies would be.. 2 energy who cares.. And your right i dont really care about it... Anyway.. I had no dp Without any energy mods my energy level is 66 (15 in attributes) Superior nrg storage +9 = 75 Energy head piece + 3 = 78 Fire wand (no energy mod) Flame artifact (energy +12) = 90 So in total 90 nrg + 10% Bonus = 97 ??

Aug 31, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23	#7
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	no.. (78 +10%) + 12 = 97.8, rounded down to 97! There's your answer. Moral boost obviously doesn't take into account energy gained from wands/focii and only takes into account your base energy boosted by energy storage. This would mean that the moral boost is applied to your base energy minus any energy from wands/focii and after applying the moral boost the game then adds any energy from wands/focii and then rounds any decimal down to a full number. To illustrate... Your base energy w/ES is 78 - and 10% of that us 7.8 78 + 7.8 = 85.8 <-- moral boosted energy 85.8 + 12 energy from focii = 97.8 <-- energy after wand/focii added rounded down = 97 <-- final energy And this explains why you have 97 energy and not 99 energy. Promblem solved. Jenosavel - Hmm.. question is, does the game round down or up... and when does moral boost get applied to energy. Before any mods are done, or after base attribute mods are applied? NVM - looks like Ensign answered this :P anways.. do have a question.. what does he mean by "Superior nrg storage +9" anyways? If he already has 15 in ES.. and a sup energy rune is only +3 .. what the hell is this anyways? Where'd the +9 come from? Like I know the +3 from headgear is +1 headgear & Major ES Rune.. but what the heck is that +9 he's talking about? Last edited by Kamatsu; Aug 31, 2005 at 11:33 PM // 23:33..

Aug 31, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29	#8
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	As mentioned, morale bonus / death penalty only affects base health and energy. On health, 10% Morale Bonus means +48 health for every level 20 character, since every other bonus or penalty is from equipment. For energy, normally this only works on the base 20 energy of a character, giving +2 energy at the full 10% morale bonus. For an Elementalist, Morale Bonus / Death Penalty also affects your bonuses from Energy Storage. In your case, it looks like you're using an Elementalist with a standard focus and level 16 Energy Storage. That means you have 22 energy from equipment bonuses, and 68 'base' energy, so a 10% Morale Bonus would give you 10% of that base, or 6.8 energy rounded to 7. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Aug 31, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#2
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Orrr... -You were exhausted -Your focus/wand has energy under certain conditions -You didn't have 90 to begin with -Your bonus wasn't 10% of the time of checking The computer doesn't... normally make math errors.

Aug 31, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16	#3
Epiph Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2005	ooh. 2 energy diffrence. stop the hurricane rescue and fix the problem. omg.

Aug 31, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#4
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	I think its like runes and death penalty: some of the bonuses are added AFTER the percent change of a DP/Moral Boost, so presumabley you had a +20 of some kind to your energy. Rather than 90 becoming (90+10%)=99, you get: 70+20 becoming (70+10%)+20=97 It wouldnt have to be exactly +20 either, since it has to round to a whole number.

Aug 31, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#6
Jenosavel Master of Beasts Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	How about this? (66 * 1.1) + 9 + 3 + 12 = 96.6 = 97 So the 10% is applied before your energy mods.