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babyboy189 · Aug 29, 2005, 02:57 AM // 02:57

i have a question about amour, what is the best amour for a warrior/monk??
right now i am using 15k gladitior amour

please tell me what is the best amour for me.

RothmirWinton · Aug 29, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01

depends... Gladiator is good, because of the energy bonuses.

Dragon has higher AL

Knights has reduced damage.

Platemail also has reduced damage

Eonwe · Aug 29, 2005, 04:16 AM // 04:16

The best armor combination is your +1 to weapon attribute Helm, Glad's Chest, Glad's Legs, Glad's Gaunts (or Stonefist if you use hammer), and Knight's Boots.

You only need one piece of Knight's armor to get the global -2 damage reduction, which will stack with your absorption rune. So if you have a superior absorption rune, that's -5 damage (plus any -dmg from your shield).

White Designs · Aug 29, 2005, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I heard that Stoneskin doesn't work with Backbreaker...can anyone confirm/reject this?

Eonwe · Aug 29, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Designs

I heard that Stoneskin doesn't work with Backbreaker...can anyone confirm/reject this?

Yes, stonefists do not add knockdown time to backbreaker.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 29, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Gladiator's Hauberk
Gladiator's Leggings
Knight's Boots
Stonefist Gauntlets if you're a hammer warrior
Weapon Mastery +1 Helm

= best.

Soul Shaker · Aug 29, 2005, 07:49 AM // 07:49

YOu ever figured out that absorption works ONLY if the piece it's on is hit? The boots, helm and gloves are least likely to be hit, so i don't see your logic there. It's a pretty simple concept, cos they wouldn't have put reduced damage on every piece if only 1 was useful would they? So whatever armour you think you like the stats and look of.

Savio · Aug 29, 2005, 08:06 AM // 08:06

Absorption on armor is global; it's been tested many times, I've tested it for myself. Whether this was intentional or an oversight on Anet's part, we don't know. So what Eonwe and Weezer posted is correct for the most efficient build. Unforunately there is no 15k Knight's, so if you want 15k armor you'll have to go with Ascalon boots.

Soul Shaker · Aug 29, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14

It's a definite mistake i reckon. Hmmm, time to nerf this cos it's making that combo kinda overpowered.

babyboy189 · Aug 30, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14

thanks for your help

Shadowfox1125 · Aug 30, 2005, 02:21 AM // 02:21

I've got 15k Gladiator's Armor with a 15k Ascalon Helm. Works for me.
And I change between Stoneskin Gauntlets and the Gladiator's Gauntlets
One for hammer, the other axe.

BTW, it's been tested that one piece of "Reduce damage from attacks" armor affects your entire character, regardless of where he/she is hit.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 30, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26

You can keep arguing with me all you want, but until further notice, as a result of data mining on behalf of Ensign and other's, it is a widely known fact that the absorbtion effect of knight's armour is universal, and does not stack. You get the full effect at minimum penalty by wearing only the boots.

You don't have to believe me. I really don't care if you're slightly easier to stomp in PvP or not.

The Muffen Man · Sep 04, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10

But wasn`t there an update in july that fixed equiptment exploit ??

Savio · Sep 04, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

No, no, and no. The absorption from Knight's/Ascalon HAS NOT CHANGED. Stop saying it has been when you haven't tested it yourself.

The Muffen Man · Sep 04, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Well i have tested it my self in a very easy way aswell
go to your doppleganger and just stand there while he shoots at you with his bow
have your inventory open and double click on the boots periodicly
i got pretty much the same results from the knights boots and the gladiator boots
no dramatic difference what so ever 100% check and verifide

Savio · Sep 04, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15

That's not a very accurate way of testing. What was the variance on the damage the doppleganger did? Did he do -10 damage? -50? -100? Did he do a consistent amount of damage? Did you take into account what other armor you were wearing? Did he hit you while you were switching armor?

A MUCH better place to test this is Ascalon. Find a melee Charr or Grawl and have him beat on you. Wear the Gladiator boots first, wait about 50 hits, then switch to Knight's. I guarantee you, you WILL see the difference.

But FYI, it's harder to see the damage reduction as the damage you take gets higher. If you're tanking Aatxes and they're doing upwards of 100 damage a hit, chances are you won't notice the extra -2.

masterbeef · Sep 04, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Is there a helm that gives a dmg reduction bonus?

Moltov joss · Sep 04, 2005, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Designs

I heard that Stoneskin doesn't work with Backbreaker...can anyone confirm/reject this?

Since 4 seconds is the maximum time someone can be knocked down stonefist gauntlets will not increase the kd time past that.

DSey · Sep 04, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbeef

Is there a helm that gives a dmg reduction bonus?

The Ascalon helm I believe.

The Muffen Man · Sep 04, 2005, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

That's not a very accurate way of testing. What was the variance on the damage the doppleganger did? Did he do -10 damage? -50? -100? Did he do a consistent amount of damage? Did you take into account what other armor you were wearing? Did he hit you while you were switching armor?

A MUCH better place to test this is Ascalon. Find a melee Charr or Grawl and have him beat on you. Wear the Gladiator boots first, wait about 50 hits, then switch to Knight's. I guarantee you, you WILL see the difference.

But FYI, it's harder to see the damage reduction as the damage you take gets higher. If you're tanking Aatxes and they're doing upwards of 100 damage a hit, chances are you won't notice the extra -2.

I suggest you try it for your self and you will see what im talking about

the hits were from -5 to -20 with both the boots and the bow is slow enough so when you double click on the boots they change before you get hit try it and see

Aug 29, 2005, 02:57 AM // 02:57	#1
babyboy189 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: MONK Profession: W/Mo	warrior amour i have a question about amour, what is the best amour for a warrior/monk?? right now i am using 15k gladitior amour please tell me what is the best amour for me.

Aug 29, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26	#6
Weezer_Blue Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just a Box in a Cage Guild: Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]	Gladiator's Hauberk Gladiator's Leggings Knight's Boots Stonefist Gauntlets if you're a hammer warrior Weapon Mastery +1 Helm = best. __________________

Aug 30, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#12
Weezer_Blue Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just a Box in a Cage Guild: Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]	You can keep arguing with me all you want, but until further notice, as a result of data mining on behalf of Ensign and other's, it is a widely known fact that the absorbtion effect of knight's armour is universal, and does not stack. You get the full effect at minimum penalty by wearing only the boots. You don't have to believe me. I really don't care if you're slightly easier to stomp in PvP or not. __________________

Sep 04, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#15
The Muffen Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Druery Lane Profession: W/	Well i have tested it my self in a very easy way aswell go to your doppleganger and just stand there while he shoots at you with his bow have your inventory open and double click on the boots periodicly i got pretty much the same results from the knights boots and the gladiator boots no dramatic difference what so ever 100% check and verifide Last edited by The Muffen Man; Sep 04, 2005 at 01:35 AM // 01:35.. Reason: typo

Aug 29, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#2
RothmirWinton Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Casting Shade Profession: W/E	depends... Gladiator is good, because of the energy bonuses. Dragon has higher AL Knights has reduced damage. Platemail also has reduced damage

Aug 29, 2005, 04:16 AM // 04:16	#3
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	The best armor combination is your +1 to weapon attribute Helm, Glad's Chest, Glad's Legs, Glad's Gaunts (or Stonefist if you use hammer), and Knight's Boots. You only need one piece of Knight's armor to get the global -2 damage reduction, which will stack with your absorption rune. So if you have a superior absorption rune, that's -5 damage (plus any -dmg from your shield).

Aug 29, 2005, 04:17 AM // 04:17	#4
White Designs Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Illinois Guild: None	I heard that Stoneskin doesn't work with Backbreaker...can anyone confirm/reject this?

Aug 29, 2005, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#7
Soul Shaker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia Guild: Soul Crusaders	YOu ever figured out that absorption works ONLY if the piece it's on is hit? The boots, helm and gloves are least likely to be hit, so i don't see your logic there. It's a pretty simple concept, cos they wouldn't have put reduced damage on every piece if only 1 was useful would they? So whatever armour you think you like the stats and look of.

Aug 29, 2005, 08:06 AM // 08:06	#8
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Absorption on armor is global; it's been tested many times, I've tested it for myself. Whether this was intentional or an oversight on Anet's part, we don't know. So what Eonwe and Weezer posted is correct for the most efficient build. Unforunately there is no 15k Knight's, so if you want 15k armor you'll have to go with Ascalon boots.

Aug 29, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14	#9
Soul Shaker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia Guild: Soul Crusaders	It's a definite mistake i reckon. Hmmm, time to nerf this cos it's making that combo kinda overpowered.

Aug 30, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14	#10
babyboy189 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: MONK Profession: W/Mo	thanks for your help

Aug 30, 2005, 02:21 AM // 02:21	#11
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	I've got 15k Gladiator's Armor with a 15k Ascalon Helm. Works for me. And I change between Stoneskin Gauntlets and the Gladiator's Gauntlets One for hammer, the other axe. BTW, it's been tested that one piece of "Reduce damage from attacks" armor affects your entire character, regardless of where he/she is hit.

Sep 04, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#13
The Muffen Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Druery Lane Profession: W/	But wasn`t there an update in july that fixed equiptment exploit ??

Sep 04, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#14
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	No, no, and no. The absorption from Knight's/Ascalon HAS NOT CHANGED. Stop saying it has been when you haven't tested it yourself.

Sep 04, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15	#16
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	That's not a very accurate way of testing. What was the variance on the damage the doppleganger did? Did he do -10 damage? -50? -100? Did he do a consistent amount of damage? Did you take into account what other armor you were wearing? Did he hit you while you were switching armor? A MUCH better place to test this is Ascalon. Find a melee Charr or Grawl and have him beat on you. Wear the Gladiator boots first, wait about 50 hits, then switch to Knight's. I guarantee you, you WILL see the difference. But FYI, it's harder to see the damage reduction as the damage you take gets higher. If you're tanking Aatxes and they're doing upwards of 100 damage a hit, chances are you won't notice the extra -2.

Sep 04, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42	#17
masterbeef Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Guild: The Bretheren of Chaos [Dark] Profession: W/E	Is there a helm that gives a dmg reduction bonus?