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Gia · Oct 14, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I don't like it I prefer the old way.

Vilaptca · Oct 16, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Ok, so I finally went out and tested this with a group. I see what you mean, but I don't understand why its not in any patch notes or why they haven't said anything about it at all.

So...I guess I'm not going to be the first to open a chest anymore, so that I can see whether I'll get a horrible purple or a decent gold...

heist23 · Oct 16, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by Gia

I don't like it I prefer the old way.

well, this was the solution to the bot-chest-famer-people. chest botters, whatever.

at least, i think so.

also, it probably was meant to stop the section of the fanbase that spends their time whining that they don't get the "uber-pwnage" weapons that they seem to see all around them. except...it didn't. just look at this thread....

i like this new system, even though i haven't seen a shiverpeak chest in the longest time. seems that they've dissapeared from grenth's footprint.....

Battle Torn · Oct 18, 2005, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Im glad I noticed something that helps anyone (not opening first to ensure gold) and as I said I dont claim to be the first to have noticed, but I have changed some peoples minds reading this post and thats what posting was intended to do. I never open chests first now and that means I get more gold items than ever before and makes farming worthwhile. I dont know why the update didnt mention this but there you go.

cant wait to see the red items

wonder what they will be like and that will encourage more people to use more characters in the game that can only add to experience and respect for other classes.

Sereng Amaranth · Oct 22, 2005, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

I found a Steel Key today, where abouts are they used?

if a key is dropped, it is used in or near that area

The undead Mesmer · Oct 22, 2005, 09:31 AM // 09:31

did you know that some mobs guard chests o.0 i did the dunes of despair mission the other day and it whas 5 minutes before thend i whas like meh lets kill the wurms so i ran up to the doulbe worm spawn and guess what?

after i killed one he dropped a key for me (elonian offcourse) and under the other one whas a chest o.0 i got a pretty rare shield from it

Demon Rebel · Oct 25, 2005, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

the reason the keys are so high is cause just like everything else. NO ONE is selling them back to NPCs. And because the chests are getting farmed to DEATH the drop quality is falling... Sooner or later people will STOP that and it will balance out again. 90% of the chests in shiver peeks are farmed out for most players. only dropping purple items at best... luckily I don't farm much so I still get a good drop on occasion,

We still see a gold drop on occasion in magmua too. go figure...

As already posted this is junk... IMHO

I started a little tank a week or two back and am currently working on ascension with her. 2 other buddies did the same with new char's as well - Ele and a R.

In the last 2 weeks we have probably opened a number of chests and picked up 75% gold items with either close to near perfect mods or Perfect mods! A number of very Very nice sundering and Vampiric bows last night even while doing the Villany run, and after a few runs in the jungle with at least 5 chests of all goldies between the wilds and bloodstone.

The keys were annoying at first and I too have run into what ~Sent said earlier - I never go without a key because I could be looking at my next perfect Barbed Sephis Axe of Warding (mine currently is 2pts off perfect dmg 6-26) , or a number of other items that I have gotten on drops.

Currently I need to get my little tank into the furnace and the islands becuz my Magmus shield is nice but getting a dual -X while stance or hex or something would be nice (my little Magmus shield is great with the 2 mods its got).

Key are good... and yes they may be a gold sink but its nice to add a little gamble in every once in a while that doesn't mean going blow for blow 1 on 1 with a boss or something while soloing... less chance of a DP if you actually come down to synchronizing your skill usage... (though I am learning more and more about soloing every day

Anyhow thats my bit!

monk muffle · Oct 26, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

k every1 listen to me.... fudge shiverpeaks go down to Fow and b4 u leave spend about 3k on obsidian keys they are 1.5k each i have only opened one adn i gto a 10/10 sundering cleaver of fortitude +28 health 14^50 sure theyre more expensive...but this chest sems to be good

Savio · Oct 26, 2005, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by monk muffle

k every1 listen to me.... fudge shiverpeaks go down to Fow and b4 u leave spend about 3k on obsidian keys they are 1.5k each i have only opened one adn i gto a 10/10 sundering cleaver of fortitude +28 health 14^50 sure theyre more expensive...but this chest sems to be good

What chest? Key chest placement is random and doesn't always give the same quality of drops. You could end up blowing a 1.5k key on a chest that gives you a bad purple shadow staff.

kKagari · Oct 26, 2005, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Wolvine

I must be one of the lucky ones with the chests as I collected a gold hammer with the following stats in the ice caves mission

Max Damage Hammer
+20% on enchantments
Vampiric +5 health Steal
- 1 health

One of the best PVP weapons I have found also I Have found a near perfect chaos sundering axe and over 6 superior runes

and I seem to get keys dropped buy monsters more often than gold items dont figure maybe I was born under a lucky star

Wolvine

i too, have gotten great chest drops in Ice caves of sorrow, 1 sup vigor and 1 sup absorption

Kyle · Oct 27, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

I dont know. the FoW chests seem to be pretty good. My first experience with those chests cuz i prefer UW but starting to like FoW for the chests. Lots of the members of my group had keys. I didnt but 1 cuz for 1.5k yeah rite. They opened it and all got golds. Choas axe i know was 1. others and others. And then a key drops for me. So i run back and open it. Sure enough a gold max hammer with some upgrades that i cant remember. Ill have to try those chests again.

Battle Torn · Nov 02, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29

It may be worth trying a running build to hunt down some chests in FOW or UW. I know its possible but it will then be down to luck if you get purple or gold and you could die real quick if not careful

but its better than standing around shouting for a party when Europe has favour mind you

Takeko Nakano · Nov 02, 2005, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by Kyle

I dont know. the FoW chests seem to be pretty good. My first experience with those chests cuz i prefer UW but starting to like FoW for the chests. Lots of the members of my group had keys. I didnt but 1 cuz for 1.5k yeah rite. They opened it and all got golds. Choas axe i know was 1. others and others. And then a key drops for me. So i run back and open it. Sure enough a gold max hammer with some upgrades that i cant remember. Ill have to try those chests again.

It can be worth buying one. And I did only see golds released from FoW chests when I last went in. Then again, there is a chance you'll get something rubbish like a deadly cesta or Healing Ankh (with "when hexed" bonuses). If you get a key drop in FoW, that's good. But I would never advise buying more than one key, unless someone's selling them really cheap in ToA.

SaintGreg · Nov 04, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Everything earlier than shiverpeaks is pretty much a waste. Sometimes you get elonian key drops from griffon farming, and after a while of getting crap I started just selling those keys back. The only keys I would actively buy would be for UW of FoW, since you have a pretty high chance of getting something that you will like/something that is sellable for decent cash. Whenever I go to either I usually stock up about 2-3 keys.

unienaule · Nov 04, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Um, I'd buy miner's keys too. I have a set of bows that are req 8 and 9 which have +15%dmg for stance, enchanted, >50 and always (-5 energy) that i got from Miner's.

Battle Torn · Nov 04, 2005, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Yeh miners keys are good too.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 04, 2005, 10:27 AM // 10:27

I've had keys drop like galore, but it still doesn't justify what I get out the chests, the best I've ever netted was a major vigor rune. I say if they drop, just sell to em to PC's under the price it takes to buy em, and you got a legit business, none of this "Poke and see" chance unlocking chests.

My 2 Cents.

--The Shim

jon__ · Nov 04, 2005, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by IndyCC

Tell me that this is just me:

I have now spent about 10k on keys, specifically Shiverpeak keys. I have been wandering the South Shiverpeaks for some time and used all of those keys. My return has been about 1k, an ROI of -90% seems hardly acceptable. Included in my loot has only been purple items, not a single gold item, runes I have already unlocked that only sell for 25g. I understand they have tried to make more gold sinks, such as the fee for entering a new guild.

Grrr... the chests in FoW and UW do pretty well by me, but if you want to talk about a gold sink, what the eff's up with the superior salvage kit? I gad a +30HP mod on a shadow bow (BLEH) out of a gold chest in FoW, so I thought to be sure to get the upgrade I'd use a superior salvage...

Wood planks. I used that superior salvage on a bunch of gold and purple items -- with decent mods, too -- and got wood planks for every single one. Tried it with the expert kit and kept getting upgrades.

USELESS, I say.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 04, 2005, 10:54 AM // 10:54

I abhor that statement! I absolutely adore my superior kit, it's never failed me once, and always gives me the highest returns possible!

With everything, salvaging is still a % chance you'll get what you're after. Get ready to get hit with wood planks or ingots when you go to salvage that bow or sword, it's all probability my friend.

I <3 My Sup Salv kit, made 4 plat <negating the 2 spent on it> for a profit of 2 plat and extra materials I used for my own armor on alts.

Imho, Sup Kits rock, and I don't gotta worry bout replacing em for a bit, unless you're a salvag-a-holic, or an Ident-a-freak.

My 2 Cents.

--The Shim

stefan16 · Nov 04, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18

UW Chests for the win, 1 key
req 10
+15^50 storm with perf marks upgr

Oct 14, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#141
Gia Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Remove my account now! Profession: W/Mo	I don't like it I prefer the old way.

Oct 16, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46	#142
Vilaptca Pre-Searing Vanquisher Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Ok, so I finally went out and tested this with a group. I see what you mean, but I don't understand why its not in any patch notes or why they haven't said anything about it at all. So...I guess I'm not going to be the first to open a chest anymore, so that I can see whether I'll get a horrible purple or a decent gold...

Oct 18, 2005, 04:39 PM // 16:39	#144
Battle Torn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scotland Profession: W/Mo	Im glad I noticed something that helps anyone (not opening first to ensure gold) and as I said I dont claim to be the first to have noticed, but I have changed some peoples minds reading this post and thats what posting was intended to do. I never open chests first now and that means I get more gold items than ever before and makes farming worthwhile. I dont know why the update didnt mention this but there you go. cant wait to see the red items wonder what they will be like and that will encourage more people to use more characters in the game that can only add to experience and respect for other classes.

Oct 22, 2005, 09:31 AM // 09:31	#146
The undead Mesmer Delphian Scribe Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Guild: No guild ;_; Profession: N/Me	did you know that some mobs guard chests o.0 i did the dunes of despair mission the other day and it whas 5 minutes before thend i whas like meh lets kill the wurms so i ran up to the doulbe worm spawn and guess what? after i killed one he dropped a key for me (elonian offcourse) and under the other one whas a chest o.0 i got a pretty rare shield from it

Oct 26, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44	#148
monk muffle Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: W/Mo	k every1 listen to me.... fudge shiverpeaks go down to Fow and b4 u leave spend about 3k on obsidian keys they are 1.5k each i have only opened one adn i gto a 10/10 sundering cleaver of fortitude +28 health 14^50 sure theyre more expensive...but this chest sems to be good

Oct 27, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#151
Kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Legends Of Teh Industry [XXX]	I dont know. the FoW chests seem to be pretty good. My first experience with those chests cuz i prefer UW but starting to like FoW for the chests. Lots of the members of my group had keys. I didnt but 1 cuz for 1.5k yeah rite. They opened it and all got golds. Choas axe i know was 1. others and others. And then a key drops for me. So i run back and open it. Sure enough a gold max hammer with some upgrades that i cant remember. Ill have to try those chests again.

Nov 02, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29	#152
Battle Torn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scotland Profession: W/Mo	It may be worth trying a running build to hunt down some chests in FOW or UW. I know its possible but it will then be down to luck if you get purple or gold and you could die real quick if not careful but its better than standing around shouting for a party when Europe has favour mind you

Nov 04, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53	#154
SaintGreg Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005	Everything earlier than shiverpeaks is pretty much a waste. Sometimes you get elonian key drops from griffon farming, and after a while of getting crap I started just selling those keys back. The only keys I would actively buy would be for UW of FoW, since you have a pretty high chance of getting something that you will like/something that is sellable for decent cash. Whenever I go to either I usually stock up about 2-3 keys.

Nov 04, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#155
unienaule I dunt even get "Retired" Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Um, I'd buy miner's keys too. I have a set of bows that are req 8 and 9 which have +15%dmg for stance, enchanted, >50 and always (-5 energy) that i got from Miner's.

Nov 04, 2005, 08:28 AM // 08:28	#156
Battle Torn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scotland Profession: W/Mo	Yeh miners keys are good too.

Nov 04, 2005, 10:27 AM // 10:27	#157
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	I've had keys drop like galore, but it still doesn't justify what I get out the chests, the best I've ever netted was a major vigor rune. I say if they drop, just sell to em to PC's under the price it takes to buy em, and you got a legit business, none of this "Poke and see" chance unlocking chests. My 2 Cents. --The Shim

Nov 04, 2005, 10:54 AM // 10:54	#159
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	I abhor that statement! I absolutely adore my superior kit, it's never failed me once, and always gives me the highest returns possible! With everything, salvaging is still a % chance you'll get what you're after. Get ready to get hit with wood planks or ingots when you go to salvage that bow or sword, it's all probability my friend. I <3 My Sup Salv kit, made 4 plat <negating the 2 spent on it> for a profit of 2 plat and extra materials I used for my own armor on alts. Imho, Sup Kits rock, and I don't gotta worry bout replacing em for a bit, unless you're a salvag-a-holic, or an Ident-a-freak. My 2 Cents. --The Shim

Nov 04, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18	#160
stefan16 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Heroes Of Revenge [Thor] Profession: W/Mo	UW Chests for the win, 1 key req 10 +15^50 storm with perf marks upgr