Buying Gold - Guild Wars Forums

Slade xTekno · Sep 11, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I just started college and found that I cannot play as often as I would like. I plan to buy gold off eBay, but I'd like to know if anyone else has done it before, who they bought from, and how it turned out.

How do they transfer the funds to you? What is the max gold you can have on your person? Your Storage?

ShadowWrath · Sep 11, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Max gold is 100 Platinum per character and 1000 platinum in the storage I believe.

Bingley Joe · Sep 11, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

You better try to get as much play time in as possible before ANet closes your account.

dargon · Sep 12, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

As Bingley said, if they catch you, ANet will shut you down. All they have to do now is flag your character, which you've conviently given them the name of in your profile here, and should you sudden come into a huge sum of money without an equivelent item (ie sup vigor / absorption) leaving your character, they've got all the proof they need. Buy gold from eBay is only supporting the the bots. You don't need gold outside of what you earn doing the missions so why worry about it.

SnowCrash · Sep 12, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I have a funny feeling that Anet is more concerned about people selling items on eBay than gold. Someone selling a few high end items for over $100US is more of an issue than some guy who buys it. Attack the sellers, not the buyers.

cagan · Sep 12, 2005, 06:07 AM // 06:07

anet is quite content to attack both ends of the stick. Both partys are breaking the EULA after all.

SnowCrash · Sep 12, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

yea...but what's worse, they guy spending the money on items or the guy profiting from it? I agree with you, but I think Anet should choose the worse of both evils first

ZeR04U · Sep 12, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Oh please you guys...

First off, banning your account because 'someone gave you' lots of money and you had no equivalent item? LMFAO. For all they know ebayers could have helped them level or know them in real life to acquire the gold.

Secondly, I honestly doubt they can use a forum name with the character name on here in banning you. Just because he 'plans to' doesn't mean he will. He never put a screenshot of his 'winning item' on the forum and put, "MY CHARACTERS NAME IS X!"

You guys are a bunch of drama queens. Get real.

navymrgoodbar · Sep 12, 2005, 06:20 AM // 06:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeR04U

Oh please you guys...

First off, banning your account because 'someone gave you' lots of money and you had no equivalent item? LMFAO. For all they know ebayers could have helped them level or know them in real life to acquire the gold.

Secondly, I honestly doubt they can use a forum name with the character name on here in banning you. Just because he 'plans to' doesn't mean he will. He never put a screenshot of his 'winning item' on the forum and put, "MY CHARACTERS NAME IS X!"

You guys are a bunch of drama queens. Get real.

Nicely stated ZeR04U.

Mark of Rodgort · Sep 12, 2005, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Haha, drama queens you are.

Akhilleus · Sep 12, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31

and for the record, it violates no agreement.
its actually technically illigal to sell in-game items, since the item is a product of arena nets hosting, and thus arena net servers, and since its illigal to sell what belongs to someone else, they can not legally sell gold and or items to you.
HOWEVER, as anyone whos studied law to any degree knows, the #1 rule of law is wording, wording, wording. websites that sell this crap and people who sell it bypass consumer protection laws by saying they are not selling you for the property of company A B or C, but they are charging you for the time they spend in game giving you the materials.
ah, the wonders of law...

that having been said, arena net holds the right to close your account for ANY reason, they could close your account because your character had the letter "q" in his name if they so wished. however, they can not legally shut down the people selling items, bar from shutting down thier accounts, but they dont do that. why? because in order to hold the amount of gold/items that they need to sell to people they need to buy extra activation codes to buy new accounts, which just happen to be sold at full retail price.

cagan · Sep 12, 2005, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Its not really being a drama queen, its emphasising the risk he would be taking.

It wouldn't be hard for Anet to track large transactions, and we know that they do, it can be worked out who ebay sellers are after enough transactions, and then, banning then, followed by everyone the seller gave large amounts of money too would be a fairly simple process.

It IS against the EULA, and you CAN be banned for it, its that simple.

To be playing, you agreed to the EULA at some point, whether you read it or not isn't Anets problem

From the EULA
"(Section: 7. OFFICIAL SERVICE)
You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material." <- Buyers are guilty by being involved in the auction.
http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

Akhilleus · Sep 12, 2005, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagan

From the EULA
"(Section: 7. OFFICIAL SERVICE)
You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material." <- Buyers are guilty by being involved in the auction.
http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

as i said, this is ILLIGAL. not just an agreement, its illigal to sell the property of another individual without thier permission.
selling sites bypass it by saying they sell the time they spend on the game, not the item itself.
but they, again, have a right to ban anyone, for any reason. almsot all games have this clause.
in diablo 2, for example, they outright banned 375,000 accounts at one point, to cut down on botting, and noon could do a thing about it, even though close to 1/4th the accounts probably never botted.

example, this is an actual disclaimer taken form ebay from an auction for 300k guild wars gold:
"Disclaimer
All characters, items and Gold in "Guild Wars" are the property of NCsoft. This auction is not for the ownership of intellectual property owned NCsoft but for the time and effort spent in providing this gaming service, all items are and will remain the property of NCsoft. By bidding on this auction you are stating that you are in no way affiliated with NCsoft. "Guild Wars" is a trademark of NCsoft. All registered names and trademarks are perperties of their respective owners. "

furthermore, the agreement you posted states nothing of buyers;
"you may not sell or auction..." that is targeted at sellers, not buyers.

cagan · Sep 12, 2005, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Reason for previous post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

and for the record, it violates no agreement.

Your other points of course, are quite valid and reasonable.

Akhilleus · Sep 12, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17

read the above post of mine.

Kuku Monk · Sep 12, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowCrash

I have a funny feeling that Anet is more concerned about people selling items on eBay than gold. Someone selling a few high end items for over $100US is more of an issue than some guy who buys it. Attack the sellers, not the buyers.

So attack the prostitue and not the guy actually paying for it? It just doesn't work that way. Slade, you don't need insane amounts of money. If you aren't going to be playing that much anyway, I really have to question why you need the money. You never really have to buy anything you can't afford from normally progressing through the game.

dargon · Sep 12, 2005, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeR04U

Secondly, I honestly doubt they can use a forum name with the character name on here in banning you. Just because he 'plans to' doesn't mean he will. He never put a screenshot of his 'winning item' on the forum and put, "MY CHARACTERS NAME IS X!"

You're right, banning by forum name is kinda hopeless. However, if you look to the left of your message and a large percentage of the other messages in this thread, you notice a few things in small letters.

Quote:

Join Date: Aug 2005
Character: Melandrus Shadow
Guild: None
Profession: R/Me

So, you have a character called Melandrus Shadow (or atleast did and I'm certain they're database can link even a defunct, nolonger used, name, back to an account). The OP, whose forum name is Slade xTekno, has/had a character called Slade Carter and he is/was in the guild Read or Die Stooge. Granted some of that information could be incorrect/junk but I bet most people that have filled it in have done so reasonably accurately.

anignna · Sep 12, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53

The thing is that their is no way that ANET can know how you acquired the money. It could be that a friend gave you 100plat (possible) or any other number of things. Their is no way to prove that you paid cash for gold unless they link your ebay account to your GW account and the Sellers ebay accout to his/her GW account. If they cant do that and ban you then it is not right.

EternalTempest · Sep 12, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01

If you get caught, Anet will ban your account. I advise against it. It hurts the ingame ecconomy and will get people to really hate you. You tend to get the ebay fine, ebay the devil.

With the changes from the latest patch, just about everything you need will not be hard to get if you do the game normally.

El Mexicana · Sep 12, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Well the seller can just tell you to buy the time he spent getting the gold, and he can give you the gold for free... the wonders of wording :P.

Not that I agree with buying gold off eBaa. It just promotes bots and its a waste of money.

Sep 11, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#3
Bingley Joe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Philosophers of Denravi	Well, knock yourself out but it's against the EULA so.. You better try to get as much play time in as possible before ANet closes your account.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31	#11
Akhilleus Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'. Guild: Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark] Profession: W/Mo	and for the record, it violates no agreement. its actually technically illigal to sell in-game items, since the item is a product of arena nets hosting, and thus arena net servers, and since its illigal to sell what belongs to someone else, they can not legally sell gold and or items to you. HOWEVER, as anyone whos studied law to any degree knows, the #1 rule of law is wording, wording, wording. websites that sell this crap and people who sell it bypass consumer protection laws by saying they are not selling you for the property of company A B or C, but they are charging you for the time they spend in game giving you the materials. ah, the wonders of law... that having been said, arena net holds the right to close your account for ANY reason, they could close your account because your character had the letter "q" in his name if they so wished. however, they can not legally shut down the people selling items, bar from shutting down thier accounts, but they dont do that. why? because in order to hold the amount of gold/items that they need to sell to people they need to buy extra activation codes to buy new accounts, which just happen to be sold at full retail price. Last edited by Akhilleus; Sep 12, 2005 at 06:33 AM // 06:33..

Sep 12, 2005, 06:33 AM // 06:33	#12
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Its not really being a drama queen, its emphasising the risk he would be taking. It wouldn't be hard for Anet to track large transactions, and we know that they do, it can be worked out who ebay sellers are after enough transactions, and then, banning then, followed by everyone the seller gave large amounts of money too would be a fairly simple process. It IS against the EULA, and you CAN be banned for it, its that simple. To be playing, you agreed to the EULA at some point, whether you read it or not isn't Anets problem From the EULA "(Section: 7. OFFICIAL SERVICE) You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material." <- Buyers are guilty by being involved in the auction. http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html Last edited by cagan; Sep 12, 2005 at 06:38 AM // 06:38..

Sep 11, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#1
Slade xTekno Rawr. Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Read or Die Stooge Forum Profession: W/	Buying Gold I just started college and found that I cannot play as often as I would like. I plan to buy gold off eBay, but I'd like to know if anyone else has done it before, who they bought from, and how it turned out. How do they transfer the funds to you? What is the max gold you can have on your person? Your Storage? __________________ My Dual-Wielding / Off-Hand Weapon Proposal

Sep 11, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#2
ShadowWrath Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Xion Nights [XN]	Max gold is 100 Platinum per character and 1000 platinum in the storage I believe.

Sep 12, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59	#4
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	As Bingley said, if they catch you, ANet will shut you down. All they have to do now is flag your character, which you've conviently given them the name of in your profile here, and should you sudden come into a huge sum of money without an equivelent item (ie sup vigor / absorption) leaving your character, they've got all the proof they need. Buy gold from eBay is only supporting the the bots. You don't need gold outside of what you earn doing the missions so why worry about it.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04	#5
SnowCrash Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: W/Mo	I have a funny feeling that Anet is more concerned about people selling items on eBay than gold. Someone selling a few high end items for over $100US is more of an issue than some guy who buys it. Attack the sellers, not the buyers.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:07 AM // 06:07	#6
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	anet is quite content to attack both ends of the stick. Both partys are breaking the EULA after all.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09	#7
SnowCrash Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: W/Mo	yea...but what's worse, they guy spending the money on items or the guy profiting from it? I agree with you, but I think Anet should choose the worse of both evils first

Sep 12, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17	#8
ZeR04U Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: None Profession: R/Me	Oh please you guys... First off, banning your account because 'someone gave you' lots of money and you had no equivalent item? LMFAO. For all they know ebayers could have helped them level or know them in real life to acquire the gold. Secondly, I honestly doubt they can use a forum name with the character name on here in banning you. Just because he 'plans to' doesn't mean he will. He never put a screenshot of his 'winning item' on the forum and put, "MY CHARACTERS NAME IS X!" You guys are a bunch of drama queens. Get real.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:24 AM // 06:24	#10
Mark of Rodgort Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/Me	Haha, drama queens you are.

Sep 12, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#15
Akhilleus Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'. Guild: Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark] Profession: W/Mo	read the above post of mine.

Sep 12, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53	#18
anignna Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	The thing is that their is no way that ANET can know how you acquired the money. It could be that a friend gave you 100plat (possible) or any other number of things. Their is no way to prove that you paid cash for gold unless they link your ebay account to your GW account and the Sellers ebay accout to his/her GW account. If they cant do that and ban you then it is not right.

Sep 12, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#19
EternalTempest Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: United States Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM] Profession: E/	If you get caught, Anet will ban your account. I advise against it. It hurts the ingame ecconomy and will get people to really hate you. You tend to get the ebay fine, ebay the devil. With the changes from the latest patch, just about everything you need will not be hard to get if you do the game normally.

Sep 12, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#20
El Mexicana Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/E	Well the seller can just tell you to buy the time he spent getting the gold, and he can give you the gold for free... the wonders of wording :P. Not that I agree with buying gold off eBaa. It just promotes bots and its a waste of money.