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Viruzzz · Sep 12, 2005, 06:28 PM // 18:28

everyone has to learn it somehow. thgis is the hard way. nut the most effective way. people can believe what people say about scammers. but being the victim is a lot better. it will teach you never to trust people(/sites/whatever) like that again.

sadly. allmost everyone will get scammed atleast once before they know what it really means. and what they shouldn't have done

Sir Skullcrasher · Sep 12, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I hate hackers. And its best to use different email and password for all your account (emails, games account, forum account. etc) never use the same email and password for all your account, or else its easier for hacker (cracker) to track down

EternalTempest · Sep 12, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

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Originally Posted by ozz

Man, how unfortunate. You probably, very unknowingly, downloaded through ActiveScript or JavaX via Internet Explorer a Key Logger; Small program designed to capture key strokes and program use, report this info through the internet -- Modem or Cable makes no differnece since the program records data to your hard drive -- then transmists that data to a server for capture once you are online.

Or he used the same email/password as he uses for guild wars. Either way OP thank you for posting this info and agree that we should not be beating him up for it.

VGJustice · Sep 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

It's at times like this that I really appreciate the fact I use Firefox. Granted, it's not perfect, but it's a sight better than IE.

Draygo Korvan · Sep 12, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

if you get popups on a guild wars site its good sign that it isnt legit or you are infested with spyware. Also it is generally good to never give out any of your account information on any site except www.guildwars.com (and never put your password anywhere on www.guildwars.com). For instance, when i register for GW forums or sites i use a seperate email account or an email forwarding account to prevent illegitament people from getting the first part of my login, my login name.

Getting some anti-spyware programs can help keep your computer clean of keylogging exploits, search google for Ad-aware and spybot S&D, I reccomend using more than one anti-spyware program because no one program catches all spyware/malware/adware. (Definitions: Spyware are illicit software that transmit information without your knowlege to some remote server, this could include fishing for personal information/credit cards or simply reporting what websites you visit, malware is malicious software that can cripple and damage your computer as well as steal personal information or allow your computer to be used to launch attacks over the internet, adaware is software that simply displays ads, they usually exist as seperate programs that show up in task manager or BHO (browser helper objects) and will display ads on nearly every website you visit or just pop them up while your computer is running.)

Sunyi · Sep 13, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Thanks for the kind words, folks.

One question though: how can I get rid of a keylogger program? Will my standard virus checker (Kaspersky AV) or the famous Ad-Aware handle the problem?

Thanks,

Sunyi

Kenect · Sep 13, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by Sunyi

Thanks for the kind words, folks.

One question though: how can I get rid of a keylogger program? Will my standard virus checker (Kaspersky AV) or the famous Ad-Aware handle the problem?

Thanks,

Sunyi

sorry i dont know the answer to this but i have a question, i log into guild wars through the client automatily by putting my password in the target box of the shortcut so it may look like this ("H:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password **********), is this safe from keyloggers scince i dont type in my password?

Kassad · Sep 13, 2005, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Why did you enter you info in the first place? Bored? Drunk? High maybe..?

mm00re · Sep 13, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Kenect

sorry i dont know the answer to this but i have a question, i log into guild wars through the client automatily by putting my password in the target box of the shortcut so it may look like this ("H:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password **********), is this safe from keyloggers scince i dont type in my password?

I would not think your password would be safe that way either, even though you are not typing it into the guildwars login screen, it is still being typed and if the key logger is reading what is being entered into that field it will capture it no matter if how you entered the password.

My past "bad" experience has been that they capture almost every keystroke, so even if you typed it in a notepad document it would be caught there as well. The one that got me was kepping an invisible file buried in folders, I only found it by pure luck while searching for invisible files.

Your safest if you have a good popup blocker (I prefer the google one) as well as ad-aware and spybot s&d, those have helped me maintain a pretty healthy system. If you happen to be on a windows 2k or xp machine you can even download the microsoft anti-spyware program which is actually pretty good.

Hope this helps

Algren Cole · Sep 13, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by kamatsu

Sorry to sound like a n00b - but can someone explain how someone knowing my e-mail address would let them hack my Guild Wars account?

I've read about this happening now and again over the past 4? months since Guild Wars has been out and always wondered how it works. How does the scam work? I know it involves finding out someone's e-mail address.. but how does that let them log into your account?

Unless people are stupid enough to register at websites with the same password they use for their Guild Wars account? That seems to me to be the only way that a scam like this could work... is that the only way this type of scam could work? Or is there something I'm missing?

it's probably a scam that works on 1 out of every 100 people. Some people use the same passwords for everything and this scam targets a large population in order to get 1/100th of the return. Without knowing the password to their email address this scam wouldn't do anything other than allow the scammer to send you emails. They're hoping that you used the same password to register the account that you use for your email. They then request your account information and log into your email to retrieve it

Xue Yi Liang · Sep 13, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Rayea

one thing to remember....always have more than one e-mail adress.

with games like this, its best to keep one mail addy for signing up on forums and so on, that can be any type of addy, be it online only, like what used to be bt.com (the old talk21.com addys were 100% online, no info other than password to log in stored, if you alow windows to remember the password) or partialy offline (like hotmail, which stores stuff on your pc, which is the type the crackers prefer)

and one addy for just online games.

remember here, that its not realy hackers, but *Crackers*
crackers are the anoying little pleebs that use the keyloggers and trojans to get at your game accounts just for your stuff.

hackers usually have other things they can be doing
(not saying that hackers are that much better, hey, you get asswipes in all forms of life hehe, but generaly hackers have better things to do with their time that stealing someones stuff in an online game. what they call their 'better things to do' , im not sure, but i think its got less to do with *borrowing* your stuff in a game)

also, dont forget that if your sign up adress is the same as your log in to GW adress, your leaving yourself WAY open to it.

Rayea said everything right there....

All the warning signs were there - kinda like stepping into the wrong porn site - 'cept that you actually gave up a main e-mail address. I have about 5-6 spare e-mail addresses I use for registering for online purchases, services, forums etc. I don't even use my main e-mail address for guildwarsguru.

I also use Spybot S&D, Ad-Adware, Antivir and Spywareblaster. I scrub my harddrive frequently. One mistake like yours should inspire you to do likewise.

I forgot, have you cleaned up your system yet, or is it still "dirty"? If not, then you better fix it before you do anything else on your machine.

Sunyi · Sep 13, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

I forgot, have you cleaned up your system yet, or is it still "dirty"? If not, then you better fix it before you do anything else on your machine.

Yeah, I did a full system scan with Kaspersky AV, Ad-Aware and The Cleaner. I am downloading Spybot S&D right now.

Thanks for the advice, everyone.

derrtyboy69 · Sep 13, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Axle_Fieshe

wow. you are really just stupid. that is like the oldest scam ever. and why not check out guildwars.com site? surely they would mention it. + .tk are foreign and free domains, guildwars.com would never change to it. i don't feel sorry for you, i reckon you deserve to be scammed if your that stupid.

wow what assholes in this world. ur just a dumb prick that lives on insulting people, also known as a bully. many people, like me, play this game because of the lack of monthly fees. we refuse to play games with a fee, (all MMOs) so we dont know these "scams" and theres always fansitees popping up, it does mean that its made by ANET

Takeko Nakano · Sep 13, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Drinking Frog

No one deserves to be scammed, except for scammers who get one pulled back on them.

Thank you, Sunyi, for alerting everyone.

Indeed, everyone should be alert and a little sceptical, but that does not mean they should be a victim of crime.

Sep 12, 2005, 06:28 PM // 18:28	#21
Viruzzz Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	everyone has to learn it somehow. thgis is the hard way. nut the most effective way. people can believe what people say about scammers. but being the victim is a lot better. it will teach you never to trust people(/sites/whatever) like that again. sadly. allmost everyone will get scammed atleast once before they know what it really means. and what they shouldn't have done

Sep 12, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32	#22
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	I hate hackers. And its best to use different email and password for all your account (emails, games account, forum account. etc) never use the same email and password for all your account, or else its easier for hacker (cracker) to track down

Sep 12, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#24
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	It's at times like this that I really appreciate the fact I use Firefox. Granted, it's not perfect, but it's a sight better than IE.

Sep 12, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#25
Draygo Korvan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	if you get popups on a guild wars site its good sign that it isnt legit or you are infested with spyware. Also it is generally good to never give out any of your account information on any site except www.guildwars.com (and never put your password anywhere on www.guildwars.com). For instance, when i register for GW forums or sites i use a seperate email account or an email forwarding account to prevent illegitament people from getting the first part of my login, my login name. Getting some anti-spyware programs can help keep your computer clean of keylogging exploits, search google for Ad-aware and spybot S&D, I reccomend using more than one anti-spyware program because no one program catches all spyware/malware/adware. (Definitions: Spyware are illicit software that transmit information without your knowlege to some remote server, this could include fishing for personal information/credit cards or simply reporting what websites you visit, malware is malicious software that can cripple and damage your computer as well as steal personal information or allow your computer to be used to launch attacks over the internet, adaware is software that simply displays ads, they usually exist as seperate programs that show up in task manager or BHO (browser helper objects) and will display ads on nearly every website you visit or just pop them up while your computer is running.)

Sep 13, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#26
Sunyi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Budapest Profession: Mo/W	Thanks for the kind words, folks. One question though: how can I get rid of a keylogger program? Will my standard virus checker (Kaspersky AV) or the famous Ad-Aware handle the problem? Thanks, Sunyi

Sep 13, 2005, 12:50 PM // 12:50	#28
Kassad Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: W/	Why did you enter you info in the first place? Bored? Drunk? High maybe..?