Alesia Broken - Guild Wars Forums

wsonner · Sep 13, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Just tried a run through Thirsty River. Alesia is flat out broken. She ATTACKS constantly, doesn't heal. Even if Lina dies, Alesia just keeps going in to attack. AND...if party members are dead she will not res them. You can get her to stand right on top of a corpse and she'll ignore it completely UNLESS it is Lina...then she'll res her! It's been this way for a few days and driving me nuts. Anyone else notice?

Kuku Monk · Sep 13, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

She tanks well enough for me.

I haven't really noticed any change in her actions as of late....

Gomezie · Sep 13, 2005, 03:57 PM // 15:57

cant say ive ever had any issues with her healing.. shes crap in comparison to lina tho imo unless you a character that doesnt heal yourself.

But people like that deserve to die ingame lol, cos each class has the ability to do something like that.. the monk should be there to make you more impregnable

wsonner · Sep 13, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Gomezie

cant say ive ever had any issues with her healing.. shes crap in comparison to lina tho imo unless you a character that doesnt heal yourself.

But people like that deserve to die ingame lol, cos each class has the ability to do something like that.. the monk should be there to make you more impregnable

I completely agree. But if she keeps fighting and getting killed then she's worthless for making you impenetrable. And this glitch where she'll only raise Lina is bugging me.

striderkaaru · Sep 13, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05

i think alesia has been working on her solo build for a while now. my first character is a warrior, and for as long as i can remember, alesia has been running up to the midst of battle and tanking along with me.

i don't think she has the tanking monk build right yet, as i still see here die a lot. maybe she needs a few more superior runes or an elite spell?

DeanBB · Sep 13, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I had that happen to me out in the desert this past weekend, and the other player had already used his rez sig. I ended up having to map out and meet up with them later.

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Sep 13, 2005, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Gomezie

cant say ive ever had any issues with her healing.. shes crap in comparison to lina tho imo unless you a character that doesnt heal yourself.

But people like that deserve to die ingame lol, cos each class has the ability to do something like that.. the monk should be there to make you more impregnable

This isnt exactly true. I mean, as a Mesmer, have you ever tried to put points into Inspiration to heal and then Dom and Illusion and Fast Casting and your secondary?

It doesnt happen. Some people are forced to drop the way they want to play in order to self heal.

Cadmann · Sep 13, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

You have to understand: Broken *is* Alesia's last name.

Dwiggit · Sep 13, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Yeah, I've encountered this too. I was soloing with the henchies, and we all got killed except Alesia and myself. When the fight started going badly, I retreated, and the remaining henchies followed, leaving a long trail of dead henchies along my path. Unfortunately, Lina was the first to kick the bucket, so she was the furthest away, right in the middle of a pack of griffons. I backtracked after escaping the aggro to heal up the party; Stefan was the closest henchie. Alesia refused to heal him. She was standing on top of him, but she wouldn't do ANYTHING!!!

So I wandered over to dead Orion, same thing. Then over to Little Thorn, no rez from Alesia! Grrrrr!

So I thought, I guess I'll just have to kill all the griffons myself, which I proceeded to do. So as I start fighting the griffons, Alesia immediately runs up to Lina and proceeds to rez her, of course right in the middle of a griffon pack! Somehow she survived and managed to bring Lina back from the dead. Once the griffons were dead, I returned to the other fallen henchies, which Alesia was happy to rez now.

Maybe she just gets depressed when Lina dies, and refuses to go on with life.

Maybe a little Prozac could help her!

Dwig

Lost · Sep 13, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Alesia will only heal if she isn't busy getting beaten up by mobs that she tried to tank and if she has the energy.

Alesia will only resurrect if all other characters have near full health and the corpse is within your aggro bubble. And yes, there is a mystical resurrect order that cannot be denied in fear of divine retribution.

Kuku Monk · Sep 13, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent

This isnt exactly true. I mean, as a Mesmer, have you ever tried to put points into Inspiration to heal and then Dom and Illusion and Fast Casting and your secondary?

It doesnt happen. Some people are forced to drop the way they want to play in order to self heal.

To my knowledge, we Mesmers only have 1 spell for true healing (Ehter Feast). Typically it will only heal you for around 100 pts or less and takes too long to recharge. It all depends on the 2ndary you have with your mesmer. I'm an Ele, and there's no viable way to really heal myself.

chowdah · Sep 13, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Her behavior - like the other support henchies - is very random. The attack henchies (Ranger, 2 Fighers) are quite predictable - but sometimes I have had Alesia do an awesome job of keeping a party alive, mid-rez combat ect ect. Othertimes shes dead or stupid useless 3 seconds into a fight.

Which in a way is kinda good - playing with henchies simulates random PUGs very well in that respect *grin*

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Sep 13, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Kuku: Try Aura with Ether Feast combined. That's about the only real potent way of doing it.

Shmash Witdaclub · Sep 13, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

no i completely agree. I have been doing (completed initial 4) all SF quests with henchies and I have noticed something completely different with the two healers as of late.

They WILL NOT res other people if one healer or the other is down. so if the whole group is down other than you and said healer henchie, she they will not res ANYONE until they other healer is resed.

same goes for their healing style, they arent doing it now for some reason!

I can most definately confirm this as I have 3 lvl 20 ascended characters - all of which I had completed almost every quest with henchies (they are more predictable than humans*)

i am starting to not believe the above statement on dependablity because of the recent change in healing henchie attitudes since the patch.

Shmash

Blkout · Sep 13, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I think Alesia heals better than most PC monks. Her only downfall is that she spends so much time healing everyone else that she forgets to save her own butt. She's also terrible about moving when she's being attacked. But, if you can keep her alive, you will hardly find a better monk for healing.

Blkout · Sep 13, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Dwiggit

Yeah, I've encountered this too. I was soloing with the henchies, and we all got killed except Alesia and myself. When the fight started going badly, I retreated, and the remaining henchies followed, leaving a long trail of dead henchies along my path. Unfortunately, Lina was the first to kick the bucket, so she was the furthest away, right in the middle of a pack of griffons. I backtracked after escaping the aggro to heal up the party; Stefan was the closest henchie. Alesia refused to heal him. She was standing on top of him, but she wouldn't do ANYTHING!!!

So I wandered over to dead Orion, same thing. Then over to Little Thorn, no rez from Alesia! Grrrrr!

So I thought, I guess I'll just have to kill all the griffons myself, which I proceeded to do. So as I start fighting the griffons, Alesia immediately runs up to Lina and proceeds to rez her, of course right in the middle of a griffon pack! Somehow she survived and managed to bring Lina back from the dead. Once the griffons were dead, I returned to the other fallen henchies, which Alesia was happy to rez now.

Maybe she just gets depressed when Lina dies, and refuses to go on with life.

Maybe a little Prozac could help her!

Dwig

Alesia often will not resurrect if there is danger nearby. If you have creatures nearby, this is why she acts this way, kill the creatures first and watch her do her business.

Nisha · Sep 13, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

My "theory" of this has been that the thought is if you're going to resurrect someone, who is going to be the most useful to resurrect? The monk who can help everybody keep alive longer or resurrect as well if need be. I've noticed that Lina tends to resurrect Alesia first of all people as well. Unfortunately it results in aforesaid rigid behaviour. Why do I spend time wondering what swims in an animated, programmed characters' head? I don't know.

Age · Sep 13, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12

I am not sure about this but the reason she runs up to you is she has healing touch and needs to touch you maybe it need to be taken out and yes some runes and elite would be nice as well as Lina having SOR.

galkraft · Sep 14, 2005, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by Blkout

Alesia often will not resurrect if there is danger nearby. If you have creatures nearby, this is why she acts this way, kill the creatures first and watch her do her business.

This is the correct answer. If 50% of the team is down (don't hold me to that exact percentage), Alesia fights. Why? The threat is too high. If she goes in resurrect mode, she is vulnerable. If she succeeds, that rezzed ally could die quickly, hurting DP even more. If what's left of the team can't finish off the rest of the monsters, then they're as good as dead anyway. I think Alesia is very very smart. The only thing that she and all henchies are stupid about, is failing to retreat once all the PC players are down. But where would you expect them to go? When do they know to come back?

*EDIT: oh yeah, occasionally the lack of heal/rez could be an energy problem. There are mesmer-like creatures out there.

Sep 13, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#1
wsonner Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: JuggerGuts Profession: W/N	Alesia Broken Just tried a run through Thirsty River. Alesia is flat out broken. She ATTACKS constantly, doesn't heal. Even if Lina dies, Alesia just keeps going in to attack. AND...if party members are dead she will not res them. You can get her to stand right on top of a corpse and she'll ignore it completely UNLESS it is Lina...then she'll res her! It's been this way for a few days and driving me nuts. Anyone else notice?

Sep 13, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#9
Dwiggit Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Heroes Unlimited (HaCK) Profession: R/Mo	Broken Alesia.... Yeah, I've encountered this too. I was soloing with the henchies, and we all got killed except Alesia and myself. When the fight started going badly, I retreated, and the remaining henchies followed, leaving a long trail of dead henchies along my path. Unfortunately, Lina was the first to kick the bucket, so she was the furthest away, right in the middle of a pack of griffons. I backtracked after escaping the aggro to heal up the party; Stefan was the closest henchie. Alesia refused to heal him. She was standing on top of him, but she wouldn't do ANYTHING!!! So I wandered over to dead Orion, same thing. Then over to Little Thorn, no rez from Alesia! Grrrrr! So I thought, I guess I'll just have to kill all the griffons myself, which I proceeded to do. So as I start fighting the griffons, Alesia immediately runs up to Lina and proceeds to rez her, of course right in the middle of a griffon pack! Somehow she survived and managed to bring Lina back from the dead. Once the griffons were dead, I returned to the other fallen henchies, which Alesia was happy to rez now. Maybe she just gets depressed when Lina dies, and refuses to go on with life. Maybe a little Prozac could help her! Dwig

Sep 13, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51	#2
Kuku Monk Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Me/E	She tanks well enough for me. I haven't really noticed any change in her actions as of late....

Sep 13, 2005, 03:57 PM // 15:57	#3
Gomezie Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	cant say ive ever had any issues with her healing.. shes crap in comparison to lina tho imo unless you a character that doesnt heal yourself. But people like that deserve to die ingame lol, cos each class has the ability to do something like that.. the monk should be there to make you more impregnable

Sep 13, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05	#5
striderkaaru Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer Profession: W/	i think alesia has been working on her solo build for a while now. my first character is a warrior, and for as long as i can remember, alesia has been running up to the midst of battle and tanking along with me. i don't think she has the tanking monk build right yet, as i still see here die a lot. maybe she needs a few more superior runes or an elite spell?

Sep 13, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#6
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	I had that happen to me out in the desert this past weekend, and the other player had already used his rez sig. I ended up having to map out and meet up with them later.

Sep 13, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#8
Cadmann Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	You have to understand: Broken is Alesia's last name.

Sep 13, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#10
Lost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell's Precipice	Alesia will only heal if she isn't busy getting beaten up by mobs that she tried to tank and if she has the energy. Alesia will only resurrect if all other characters have near full health and the corpse is within your aggro bubble. And yes, there is a mystical resurrect order that cannot be denied in fear of divine retribution.

Sep 13, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19	#12
chowdah Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Guild: Friday Night Fire Fight Profession: W/Mo	Her behavior - like the other support henchies - is very random. The attack henchies (Ranger, 2 Fighers) are quite predictable - but sometimes I have had Alesia do an awesome job of keeping a party alive, mid-rez combat ect ect. Othertimes shes dead or stupid useless 3 seconds into a fight. Which in a way is kinda good - playing with henchies simulates random PUGs very well in that respect grin

Sep 13, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#13
Arcanis the Omnipotent Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Nova Alliance Profession: Me/	Kuku: Try Aura with Ether Feast combined. That's about the only real potent way of doing it.

Sep 13, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45	#14
Shmash Witdaclub Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: W/E	no i completely agree. I have been doing (completed initial 4) all SF quests with henchies and I have noticed something completely different with the two healers as of late. They WILL NOT res other people if one healer or the other is down. so if the whole group is down other than you and said healer henchie, she they will not res ANYONE until they other healer is resed. same goes for their healing style, they arent doing it now for some reason! I can most definately confirm this as I have 3 lvl 20 ascended characters - all of which I had completed almost every quest with henchies (they are more predictable than humans*) i am starting to not believe the above statement on dependablity because of the recent change in healing henchie attitudes since the patch. Shmash

Sep 13, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#15
Blkout Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	I think Alesia heals better than most PC monks. Her only downfall is that she spends so much time healing everyone else that she forgets to save her own butt. She's also terrible about moving when she's being attacked. But, if you can keep her alive, you will hardly find a better monk for healing.

Sep 13, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#17
Nisha Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: E/W	My "theory" of this has been that the thought is if you're going to resurrect someone, who is going to be the most useful to resurrect? The monk who can help everybody keep alive longer or resurrect as well if need be. I've noticed that Lina tends to resurrect Alesia first of all people as well. Unfortunately it results in aforesaid rigid behaviour. Why do I spend time wondering what swims in an animated, programmed characters' head? I don't know.

Sep 13, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#18
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	I am not sure about this but the reason she runs up to you is she has healing touch and needs to touch you maybe it need to be taken out and yes some runes and elite would be nice as well as Lina having SOR.