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MJ12trooper · Sep 13, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50

i have made a healing monk he is still in pre searing i would like to know what the best 2ndary FOR ENERGY all i want from my 2ndary are energy helping spells
should i go mesmer?

Knight of Eternal Darknes · Sep 13, 2005, 01:52 AM // 01:52

i think elementalist

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Sep 13, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I would suggest Necromancer for Offering of Blood; but thats an elite way... later; go for mesmer now then switch later on; Mesmer energy steals take too long and for little energy they give you; plus recharge times....

The Vanguard · Sep 13, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I say go for M/E

Sarus · Sep 13, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Mesmers hands down have the best energy management skills in the game. You can pick a few of them up to use for energy management.

My recommendations would be

Energy Drain
Inspired Hex
Drain Enchantment
Channeling

(Not necessarily all of them but some combination that you see fit).

Xue Yi Liang · Sep 13, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31

I'll second that motion on the Mesmer. The list of skills I found useful are very similar to Sarus':

Energy Drain (or Energy Tap) - probably your most useful energy source
Channeling - only when I'm solo farming a horde of undead - otherwise the energy return is meager
Inspired Hex - I used it for a while but the recharge time is too much. And it doesn't give much in terms of energy.
Ethereal Burden - I used to use Shatter Delusions for a small return of energy while inflicting damage - not much return but a novelty.

But Energy Drain (Energy Tap) is the hot item for energy....

One and Two · Sep 13, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Mesmer or necro. Whoever said ele meant with Ether renewal, which means you have to run enchantments and constantly cast. you only get 1 energy per enchantment though, cus you cant put points into energy storage.

coldslammer · Sep 13, 2005, 07:28 AM // 07:28

definenly mo/me

energy drain is a popular choice, stealing energy from a warrior or ranger is quite fun, usually u dont get much if your half way through a battle, elementists are pretty much garenteed energy steals

however if you want a decent supply of energy, mantra of recal is another option,

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Sep 13, 2005, 05:15 PM // 17:15

I also suggest Mesmer. Inspiration Magic is by far the best for a Monk.

Defense stances, energy draining and even one heal spell.

MJ12trooper · Sep 13, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

thnk you all i was thinking mesmer was the way to go just wasnt sure

Kuku Monk · Sep 13, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Knight of Eternal Darknes

i think elementalist

I've got one. My skill bar is full of monk spells and none for Ele. The only time I use ele is when I know I'm going to be playing with henchies and not humans.

Toral Xi · Sep 13, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I have a Mo/Necro right now and it has been a good combo. The main reason I chose it was for Offering/Well of Blood and Well of Power. I also plan to try a minion master solo build later on. My other character is a Me/Ele and I am close to the end of the game with him (ring of fire) so I can see the benefits of a Mo/Me as well.

I will say that during the Thunderhead Keep mission we were able to complete it, including the bonus, primarily due to a Necro using Well of Power and two Monks taking full advantage of it.

Algren Cole · Sep 13, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

I'd say Monk/Ele and jump on the ER train before it's nerfed beyond use. It's a good way to keep your energy and health up even in PvP....eventually you'll have to change to Mo/Me though...as the ER nerf is undoubtedly coming.

mr_boo · Sep 13, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

I'd say Monk/Ele and jump on the ER train before it's nerfed beyond use. It's a good way to keep your energy and health up even in PvP....eventually you'll have to change to Mo/Me though...as the ER nerf is undoubtedly coming.

ER is linked with Energy Storage, so although the OP will be able to smite, that doesn't mean he/she will be a good smiter.

Algren Cole · Sep 13, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_boo

ER is linked with Energy Storage, so although the OP will be able to smite, that doesn't mean he/she will be a good smiter.

ya...thanks for pointing that out....im kinda stupid sometimes.

LifeInfusion · Sep 13, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Mo/Me for energy drain
Mo/N for well of power, offering of blood

Bingley Joe · Sep 14, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Well you've already got a bunch of very sensible solutions, so I'm just going to throw one out there that's a little off-kilter.

I've got a Monk/Ranger with Ascetic's Armour and a staff for about 52 energy total. When things are getting heavy energy-wise, I use draw conditions on my party and then turn on Melandru's Resilience and watch my health and energy pools rocket back to full. Works really nicely, and it's extremely rare that I have any energy troubles on this char; he's great fun to play.

That said, it has taken me quite a while to build this guy up (probably never would have found that insightful mod without SF, lol), and I do find it a little maddening to play sometimes because both professions have so many great skills and there just ain't enough att points to go around. Ranger especially, curse them -- just jammed packed with goodness in every line!

In the end I just settled on high Wilderness for MR and Serpent's Quickness. Rest is pure monkage and it's great!

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Sep 14, 2005, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Me Energy skill take too long to cast and a longer recharge than Offering of blood.

its a fact; just look at the charts or even your skill window; if you have it unlocked.

Me skills you need to be within the battle; in harms way, those 3 seconds sum1 could die it can get interupted then what, also a reliance on enemy's; 3/4th a sec cast is way faster for output.
3 seconds plus cool down of 20 sec.
3/4th a sec plus 15 sec cool down.

but as i said before that elite is kind of in the distance; go mesmer now then switch.

Syno Nym · Sep 14, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Channeling alone is the best energy managment skill in the game, but it's not the only amazing skill the mesmer skill has to offer. You'll also have Hex breaker and Energy drain, two great skills.

Go for a monk/mesmer and never look back.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Sep 14, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Mesmer Skills still rely on a Enemy; Hex; or a large group of enemy's

heres a picture Iv compiled with a basic setup of skills.

Whatever you choose is up to you; I just provide the facts.

Sep 13, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50	#1
MJ12trooper Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: farming somewhere Profession: E/Mo	2ndary for monk i have made a healing monk he is still in pre searing i would like to know what the best 2ndary FOR ENERGY all i want from my 2ndary are energy helping spells should i go mesmer?

Sep 13, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39	#5
Sarus Ministry of Technology Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington D.C. Guild: Idiot Savants Profession: Mo/	Mesmers hands down have the best energy management skills in the game. You can pick a few of them up to use for energy management. My recommendations would be Energy Drain Inspired Hex Drain Enchantment Channeling (Not necessarily all of them but some combination that you see fit). __________________ M.D.K. GuildWars Guild

Sep 14, 2005, 12:18 AM // 00:18	#18
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	Me Energy skill take too long to cast and a longer recharge than Offering of blood. its a fact; just look at the charts or even your skill window; if you have it unlocked. Me skills you need to be within the battle; in harms way, those 3 seconds sum1 could die it can get interupted then what, also a reliance on enemy's; 3/4th a sec cast is way faster for output. 3 seconds plus cool down of 20 sec. 3/4th a sec plus 15 sec cool down. but as i said before that elite is kind of in the distance; go mesmer now then switch. Last edited by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E; Sep 14, 2005 at 12:20 AM // 00:20..

Sep 13, 2005, 01:52 AM // 01:52	#2
Knight of Eternal Darknes Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cali Guild: Cerebral Assassins[Assn] Profession: W/E	i think elementalist

Sep 13, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54	#3
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	I would suggest Necromancer for Offering of Blood; but thats an elite way... later; go for mesmer now then switch later on; Mesmer energy steals take too long and for little energy they give you; plus recharge times....

Sep 13, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#4
The Vanguard Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Crimson Blade Wolves [ WOLF ] Profession: W/Mo	I say go for M/E

Sep 13, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31	#6
Xue Yi Liang Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern CA Guild: Outlaws of the Water Margin Profession: Mo/Me	I'll second that motion on the Mesmer. The list of skills I found useful are very similar to Sarus': Energy Drain (or Energy Tap) - probably your most useful energy source Channeling - only when I'm solo farming a horde of undead - otherwise the energy return is meager Inspired Hex - I used it for a while but the recharge time is too much. And it doesn't give much in terms of energy. Ethereal Burden - I used to use Shatter Delusions for a small return of energy while inflicting damage - not much return but a novelty. But Energy Drain (Energy Tap) is the hot item for energy....

Sep 13, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#7
One and Two Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005	Mesmer or necro. Whoever said ele meant with Ether renewal, which means you have to run enchantments and constantly cast. you only get 1 energy per enchantment though, cus you cant put points into energy storage.

Sep 13, 2005, 07:28 AM // 07:28	#8
coldslammer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: :::: Guild: :::::::: Profession: W/Mo	definenly mo/me energy drain is a popular choice, stealing energy from a warrior or ranger is quite fun, usually u dont get much if your half way through a battle, elementists are pretty much garenteed energy steals however if you want a decent supply of energy, mantra of recal is another option,

Sep 13, 2005, 05:15 PM // 17:15	#9
Arcanis the Omnipotent Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Nova Alliance Profession: Me/	I also suggest Mesmer. Inspiration Magic is by far the best for a Monk. Defense stances, energy draining and even one heal spell.

Sep 13, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22	#10
MJ12trooper Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: farming somewhere Profession: E/Mo	thnk you all i was thinking mesmer was the way to go just wasnt sure

Sep 13, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#12
Toral Xi Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Profession: Me/Mo	I have a Mo/Necro right now and it has been a good combo. The main reason I chose it was for Offering/Well of Blood and Well of Power. I also plan to try a minion master solo build later on. My other character is a Me/Ele and I am close to the end of the game with him (ring of fire) so I can see the benefits of a Mo/Me as well. I will say that during the Thunderhead Keep mission we were able to complete it, including the bonus, primarily due to a Necro using Well of Power and two Monks taking full advantage of it.

Sep 13, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#13
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I'd say Monk/Ele and jump on the ER train before it's nerfed beyond use. It's a good way to keep your energy and health up even in PvP....eventually you'll have to change to Mo/Me though...as the ER nerf is undoubtedly coming.

Sep 13, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39	#16
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	Mo/Me for energy drain Mo/N for well of power, offering of blood

Sep 14, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#17
Bingley Joe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Philosophers of Denravi	Well you've already got a bunch of very sensible solutions, so I'm just going to throw one out there that's a little off-kilter. I've got a Monk/Ranger with Ascetic's Armour and a staff for about 52 energy total. When things are getting heavy energy-wise, I use draw conditions on my party and then turn on Melandru's Resilience and watch my health and energy pools rocket back to full. Works really nicely, and it's extremely rare that I have any energy troubles on this char; he's great fun to play. That said, it has taken me quite a while to build this guy up (probably never would have found that insightful mod without SF, lol), and I do find it a little maddening to play sometimes because both professions have so many great skills and there just ain't enough att points to go around. Ranger especially, curse them -- just jammed packed with goodness in every line! In the end I just settled on high Wilderness for MR and Serpent's Quickness. Rest is pure monkage and it's great!

Sep 14, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#19
Syno Nym Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Les Grosbilloux Profession: R/W	Channeling alone is the best energy managment skill in the game, but it's not the only amazing skill the mesmer skill has to offer. You'll also have Hex breaker and Energy drain, two great skills. Go for a monk/mesmer and never look back.

Sep 14, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#20
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	Mesmer Skills still rely on a Enemy; Hex; or a large group of enemy's heres a picture Iv compiled with a basic setup of skills. Whatever you choose is up to you; I just provide the facts.