Collector's bow and "noobs". - Guild Wars Forums

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I've been talking to some ignorant ppl in this game who called me a noob, and a f-ing noob, just because I think that the Collector's Bow in mineral Springs with Max damage and +15% above 50% hp is just as good as any super duper golden bow. Think about it. It's same speed as Long bow or somth like that. It got Godly Stats. Especially is I up it with perfect upgrades. I can make the best bow in the game from this baby. So what if it's not yellow, or "GOLD" as ppl who called me a noob poined out. Jeez get a life. Flaming me just cause I said yellow instead of GOLD??? Now if I'm wrong, correct me, and I'll shut up. But if you ignore the GOLD color and the cool looks of storm bows and etc, this collector item is the best you can get IMHO. I think that ppl who called me a noob are REAL noobs. Not me.

pagansaint · Aug 26, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Fire Rate is Sub Par

Other than that, its fine.

Ensign · Aug 26, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.

Duh.

Peace,
-CxE

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.

Duh.

Peace,
-CxE

That's the silliest thing I ever heared. If you care so much about looking good, why dont you join some dress up show? Or become a fashion designer? This game and all competitive games are about being good. If your ranger look like a dress up doll, and I own you with my collector bow in 5 secs, that dont make you a good dueler does it? Last time I checked GW was about battling and PvPing more that it is about PvE. HOH is where it's all at. Everyone says that. Your cool looks wont help you in win in HOH. Mabe in a beauty contest. But skills, quick reflexes and a good bow will.

Duh.

Peace

PS: oh and off course I agree that skill beats equipment here. But good equip helps.

Vilaptca · Aug 26, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

....I think that was sarcasm....

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

Fire Rate is Sub Par

Other than that, its fine.

Sub Par??? It's 2 sec or 2.5... that's same as flat or long bow. Is it not?

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

....I think that was sarcasm....

Ehh.. I suppose I'm not so good in distinguishing sarcasm from someone trying to make me feel stupid. Oh well, if I'm overeacting, I appologise.

Eonwe · Aug 26, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Yea, Ensign was just joking. rofl.

Brand Oathbow · Aug 26, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

I just picked one up like this in the desert. Its got the range 80 range of the Composite or Hornbow category (vs. 100 for longbow/flatbow types and 60 for shortbow). I havent had a chance to really figure out the re-fire rate and flight time yet to narrow it down between the two, but I'm guessing its Composite class.

I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot.

I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its *GOLD!!!*, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it.

Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?).

dargon · Aug 26, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I believe the collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow isn't it? Meaning high fire rate, low range.

aB- · Aug 26, 2005, 10:46 PM // 22:46

The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brand Oathbow

I just picked one up like this in the desert. Its got the range 80 range of the Composite or Hornbow category (vs. 100 for longbow/flatbow types and 60 for shortbow). I havent had a chance to really figure out the re-fire rate and flight time yet to narrow it down between the two, but I'm guessing its Composite class.

I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot.

I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its *GOLD!!!*, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it.
No you cannot salvage, i think, but why bother when u can simply replace as many times as u need? Just give it a good thought before putting in anything.

Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?).

Ahhh... At least someone agrees with me.
Ok ok.. Mabe it's not the best you can have. But with good upgrades, one of the best 4 sure. And it was fun and challenfing obtaining the components for it for me as well.

ibex333 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by aB-

The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

Wow!! thanx a lot man!! Where do you get this info tho??

Bingley Joe · Aug 26, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by ibex333

Where do you get this info tho??

Lots of great info HERE

Epiph · Aug 27, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

why not just go naked

MCS · Aug 27, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Why is the Q&A the unofficial bitch about everything forums?

ratatass · Aug 27, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

There is a bunch of threads on bows, what's good for what and there is even a guide in this sites' homepage with stats on bows etc..

There is also a lot of discussions on what looks good or not as well...

Do a search and find out if you are a noob or not ?

Ratatass

Ender Ward · Aug 27, 2005, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe

Lots of great info HERE

Lots of wrong info too.

Some examples:

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Called Shot, Favorable Winds, Quick Shot (Elite), and Read the Wind will make the Arc size approximately the same as the Low arc of a Composite Bow.

What the hell is Quickshot doing in that list?

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* Damage +1-20% (while health is above 50%)

That would be +1-15% (while health is above 50%).

The +20% is only for health below 50%.

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* The two Interrupt preparations, Incindiary Arrows (Elite) and Choking Gas. Both of them have the disadvantage of having short durations, and thus having Practiced Stance (Elite) would be beneficial.

Except one can't use Incendiary Arrows together with Practice Stance, seing as they're both elite. So I'm not quite sure what's the point of mentioning Practiced Stance as a way to extend Incediary Arrows duration.

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Practiced Stance (Elite) is a way to get more bang for your preparation buck. It lowers the casting time of preparations (meh) and lengthens the duration (yay!).

Practiced stance does nothing to the cast time of preparations. It affects the recycle time and the length of duration.

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* Kindle Arrows and Ignite Arrows are similar in scope (adds fire damage). Ignite Arrows does less damage, but applies the damage over an area. Kindle Arrows does more damage and cost less. It is difficult to ponder which one is better, as it is entirely situational.

They are infact quite different. Kindle turns all of one's damage into fire damage. Ignite does not, it simply adds on the extra fire damage. This is very important for interaction with skills like Weaken Armor, Winnowing, Judge's Insight, Mark of Pain, Barbs, etc.

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Practiced Stance (Elite) is ... incompatible with the stances

Except it is compatible. One only needs to have PS up when the preparation finishes casting. After that, knock yourself out, use any other stance. PS already did it's job.

Seems the author just looked at skil descriptions, when writing that "FAQ".

MCS · Aug 27, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26

It's out dated. Luckily however since the OP isn't asking any real questions it doesn't matter.

Jenosavel · Aug 27, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

Isn't the collector bow from the hydra-claw-collecting guy between Augury and Destiny a short bow as well? I picked it up recently and it seems to behave exactly like the shortbow I was using previously. I know it's not a long bow, since you have to be well within the aggro bubble to hit. In any case, there might be two collectors that qualify as "outside Augury" and that's why I'm getting confused. Your "outside Augury" might mean, literally, the collector that stands just outside the gate of town.

Just thought I'd mention something, 'cause to me killing Hydras is far easier than killing Avicara. I can do one solo on my ranger (and thus not miss those claw drops), and the other I'm fairly certain would shred me.

Aug 26, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#1
ibex333 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Guild: [EYE] Profession: Rt/A	Collector's bow and "noobs". I've been talking to some ignorant ppl in this game who called me a noob, and a f-ing noob, just because I think that the Collector's Bow in mineral Springs with Max damage and +15% above 50% hp is just as good as any super duper golden bow. Think about it. It's same speed as Long bow or somth like that. It got Godly Stats. Especially is I up it with perfect upgrades. I can make the best bow in the game from this baby. So what if it's not yellow, or "GOLD" as ppl who called me a noob poined out. Jeez get a life. Flaming me just cause I said yellow instead of GOLD??? Now if I'm wrong, correct me, and I'll shut up. But if you ignore the GOLD color and the cool looks of storm bows and etc, this collector item is the best you can get IMHO. I think that ppl who called me a noob are REAL noobs. Not me.

Aug 26, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#3
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good. Duh. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Aug 26, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43	#2
pagansaint Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Fire Rate is Sub Par Other than that, its fine.

Aug 26, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#5
Vilaptca Pre-Searing Vanquisher Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	....I think that was sarcasm....

Aug 26, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#8
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	Yea, Ensign was just joking. rofl.

Aug 26, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32	#9
Brand Oathbow Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: R/Me	I just picked one up like this in the desert. Its got the range 80 range of the Composite or Hornbow category (vs. 100 for longbow/flatbow types and 60 for shortbow). I havent had a chance to really figure out the re-fire rate and flight time yet to narrow it down between the two, but I'm guessing its Composite class. I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot. I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its GOLD!!!, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it. Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?).

Aug 26, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#10
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	I believe the collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow isn't it? Meaning high fire rate, low range.

Aug 26, 2005, 10:46 PM // 22:46	#11
aB- Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow. The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.

Aug 27, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#15
Epiph Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2005	why not just go naked

Aug 27, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33	#16
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Why is the Q&A the unofficial bitch about everything forums?

Aug 27, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25	#17
ratatass Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Mexico	There is a bunch of threads on bows, what's good for what and there is even a guide in this sites' homepage with stats on bows etc.. There is also a lot of discussions on what looks good or not as well... Do a search and find out if you are a noob or not ? Ratatass

Aug 27, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26	#19
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	It's out dated. Luckily however since the OP isn't asking any real questions it doesn't matter.