Are rangers really good for PVP? - Page 4 - Guild Wars Forums

wgregory87 · Jul 02, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

rangers are amazing in pvp. Poisin arrow, or ignite arrow, or any status preperation, pin down, distracting shot, concussion shot. they absolutely destroy monks if they're good at it. man, pair a good rangers with a good mesmer (better to be primary of each) and casters stand no chance! Actually, neither do warriors! Pin down/ fragility/ set that guy on fire and keep him crippled and hes DEAD.

Aristotle · Jul 03, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Pet=Another target plain and simple
So why not?

Laizness · Jul 03, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Although there are builds that can use pets well, i'd take the extra skill or two over the pet in most situations for pvp. Fragility and incendiary arrows is my personal favorite.

arnansnow · Jul 03, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53

In PvP, whenever I am going against rangers with pets, I just ignore the pet and focus on the players. I may not have ever gone against a good beastmaster (as I am only in Maguuma), I find pets mostly useless. (Although when I had a pet in Ascalon Arena, it actually killed a guy after I died getting him down to 3% life

) I would rather have another skill or two, then have a pet, that when it dies, you lose your skills for a while, making you a sitting duck.

Enigmatics · Jul 05, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

If you're a beastmaster you can possibly have a pet with 25% faster attack rate then you, and it can pack a punch. If you aren't you have a walking skill disabler that annoys people and adds to the ranger "support" stereotype. I myself kill pets for the 8 seconds of enemy rangers not being able to spam. I would agree that rangers can do damage, but the essence of most ranger spike builds is time -time to get buffs up, regen life, and summon a few spirits. If you give certain rangers time, they'll become quite powerful.

Dmitri3 · Aug 01, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10

Well, asking if ranger is good is same as asking if mesmer is great.
You don't know how casters feels under each sec interrupts.

Master Oria · Aug 01, 2005, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

Yeah, you're right...

...Any ranger with a pet, period, is an idiot.

then explain how come a group of 8 pet rangers dominated HoH
for several hours strait... Because YOU haven't figured out how to
use them, dosent make them useless and the ranger an idiot.

Are Cane · Aug 01, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Rangers...I think they aren't that great in PvP since there are only 4 other players. In GvG on the other hand ranger can take a HUGE chunk of any classes life or kill them. A full team of 8 rangers all they have to do is set traps all in one area. Major Ownage right there.

Egg Shen · Sep 15, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Just as an FYI, pets had their armor level increased to 80 (at level 20) in a relatively recent update. Makes them a bit harder to cut down, anyway. Same update increased their movement speed by 20% to compensate for the less than stellar AI.

Probably doesn't affect their ability to own in combat all that much, but I noticed some comments about their AL only being 60.

*And I know this is a pretty old thread, but Im skimming through some old stuff. *

Algren Cole · Sep 15, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryss

They sure are, but they're under appreciated and alot of rangers have no idea how to really play the class. That being said.... there are some awesome rangers out there also. We are not tanks, we are assistants and we cause havoc = Widespread destruction, devastation, disorder or chaos for all around us *evil grin*

Throw Dirt + Whirling Defense + Dryders Defense = Ranger Tank

Blackthorne Foehmmr · Sep 15, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06

1) Rangers when used right can do some incredible spike dmg.
2) Pets have its uses....look at the W/R IWAY build thats popular now.

The thing that is not the latest FotM is R/W IWAY builds...thats the one that held the HoH for a considerable amount of time.

galkraft · Sep 16, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38

ON TOPIC:
Rangers are good. The more the merrier. Very versatile class.

OFF TOPIC:
Notice how a majority of people who say Rangers suck, and even pets, are people who primarily play Warriors. "I can take them 1 v 1". Warriors.

Pets do great with Beastmastery investment, just like how anything else works, and serve just as effectively as any other skill. They are as valid a choice as any other. They are deadly with the right mix of skills, as previous posters have already explained. They do NOT make you equal in power to 2 of any other allies. 1.5 at best. If a pet COULD take down any expert warrior out there 1 v 1, pets would soon be nerfed.

Sep 16, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38	#72
galkraft Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Followers Of Master Jack Profession: R/Me	ON TOPIC: Rangers are good. The more the merrier. Very versatile class. OFF TOPIC: Notice how a majority of people who say Rangers suck, and even pets, are people who primarily play Warriors. "I can take them 1 v 1". Warriors. Pets do great with Beastmastery investment, just like how anything else works, and serve just as effectively as any other skill. They are as valid a choice as any other. They are deadly with the right mix of skills, as previous posters have already explained. They do NOT make you equal in power to 2 of any other allies. 1.5 at best. If a pet COULD take down any expert warrior out there 1 v 1, pets would soon be nerfed. Last edited by galkraft; Sep 16, 2005 at 12:41 AM // 00:41..

Jul 02, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#61
wgregory87 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Vancouver Guild: TYSN Profession: Mo/W	rangers are amazing in pvp. Poisin arrow, or ignite arrow, or any status preperation, pin down, distracting shot, concussion shot. they absolutely destroy monks if they're good at it. man, pair a good rangers with a good mesmer (better to be primary of each) and casters stand no chance! Actually, neither do warriors! Pin down/ fragility/ set that guy on fire and keep him crippled and hes DEAD.

Jul 03, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#62
Aristotle Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Mo/R	Pet=Another target plain and simple So why not?

Jul 03, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48	#63
Laizness Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Me/N	Although there are builds that can use pets well, i'd take the extra skill or two over the pet in most situations for pvp. Fragility and incendiary arrows is my personal favorite.

Jul 03, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53	#64
arnansnow Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: DOOM Profession: E/N	In PvP, whenever I am going against rangers with pets, I just ignore the pet and focus on the players. I may not have ever gone against a good beastmaster (as I am only in Maguuma), I find pets mostly useless. (Although when I had a pet in Ascalon Arena, it actually killed a guy after I died getting him down to 3% life ) I would rather have another skill or two, then have a pet, that when it dies, you lose your skills for a while, making you a sitting duck.

Jul 05, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#65
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	If you're a beastmaster you can possibly have a pet with 25% faster attack rate then you, and it can pack a punch. If you aren't you have a walking skill disabler that annoys people and adds to the ranger "support" stereotype. I myself kill pets for the 8 seconds of enemy rangers not being able to spam. I would agree that rangers can do damage, but the essence of most ranger spike builds is time -time to get buffs up, regen life, and summon a few spirits. If you give certain rangers time, they'll become quite powerful.

Aug 01, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10	#66
Dmitri3 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P	Well, asking if ranger is good is same as asking if mesmer is great. You don't know how casters feels under each sec interrupts.

Aug 01, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32	#68
Are Cane Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Guild: Legio X Profession: E/Me	Rangers...I think they aren't that great in PvP since there are only 4 other players. In GvG on the other hand ranger can take a HUGE chunk of any classes life or kill them. A full team of 8 rangers all they have to do is set traps all in one area. Major Ownage right there.

Sep 15, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22	#69
Egg Shen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005	Just as an FYI, pets had their armor level increased to 80 (at level 20) in a relatively recent update. Makes them a bit harder to cut down, anyway. Same update increased their movement speed by 20% to compensate for the less than stellar AI. Probably doesn't affect their ability to own in combat all that much, but I noticed some comments about their AL only being 60. And I know this is a pretty old thread, but Im skimming through some old stuff.

Sep 15, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#71
Blackthorne Foehmmr Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	1) Rangers when used right can do some incredible spike dmg. 2) Pets have its uses....look at the W/R IWAY build thats popular now. The thing that is not the latest FotM is R/W IWAY builds...thats the one that held the HoH for a considerable amount of time.