Sudden Number Of necros? - Guild Wars Forums

Akimb0 · Sep 28, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Anyone else noticed a dramatic increase of necros?

sandstorm87 · Sep 28, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25

yeah i was once in a place with like 30 people and like 15 of them were necro's and also monks have increased i noticed
the warriors and elementalists are decreased i think and the mesmers and ranger are sort of normal

Charcoal Ann · Sep 28, 2005, 01:30 PM // 13:30

well i have recently recreated my necro (necro was my first char). i did fort ranik last night and we had 3 necros and 1 monk. however i think we constituted the entire necromancer population of the district. maybe only necromancers know the usefulness of necromancers? at least early on.

i never thought i'd see the day that a group would have no warrior. i see i was mistaken.

Akimb0 · Sep 28, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Well I've been trying to do Sanctum Cay for a while now, and I see many more Necros ( Usally N/R ) and Mesmers than I did before. I think the whole order of the vampire / barbs thing is being realised, as in my opinion Necromancers are the most versatile Class.

Gustav Gloomp · Sep 28, 2005, 01:48 PM // 13:48

i did a gvg battle against 5 necros, 1 ranger and 2 monks... theyre really hard to beat.

Charcoal Ann · Sep 28, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Necromancers are described as the most balanced and all round good class in the Prima guide. Necromancer primary basically works with any secondary.
(however it also says that necros are most capable of soloing...)
if you have played with a minionmancer in SF you will see the awsome power that they can have.
if you have played with a Curses/Blood Necro in PvP you will see the awsome power that they can have.
Necromancers don't really have any redundant attributes. maybe people are finally noticing this...

melbo · Sep 28, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I noticed that too...which kinda sucks for me because I was going to make a Necro once my second character beats the game (and it'll be harder to find groups if there's more necros)...then again hopefully these people will be proving how good necros are and necros will gain more respect by the time I get my character out there.

I'm totally going to have a minions/blood/healing N/Mo

bulldog · Sep 28, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I play as a N/W and I find it easier to solo than with my Ele. I think it's the fact that with a blood necro every spell you cast you gain that energy back...which in turn has kept me alive in tight situations.

On a related subject, can you think of any reasons why my melee sword attack against many higher level enemies is 5-10 when my sword is 13-19? It's not on all, but I've been noticing it more often against lower level White Mantle. Should I use an axe or hammer instead of a sword in most cases?

Akimb0 · Sep 28, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

To Above: They have higher level armour, reducing the damage you do. GW is about using skills to increase the damage you do.

As for my N/Mo, At the moment I have 9 in soul reaping, take two minions from one corpse for 25 energy. Now in the time it takes for those minions to die ( theyre storing 18 energy for me ) I've regenerated over 10 energy. 10+18=28. I gain energy, which can be annoying because I cant spend it fast enough and sometimes end up wasting soul reaping bonus'. Its hard to find a group right now because of the number of necros

eddycurrents · Sep 28, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39

It's probably because they are twinked second chars. They finished the game with the standard W/Mo and now they want to try something radically different.

Necros complain all the time about not getting groups, but I haven't had much trouble. The groups that don't want me are too stupid to know what necros do, so I don't care about them.

"LFG 4 tanks 2 healing monks 2 echo nukers, no one else need apply"

Boring!

I've had the most fun with unusual groups. One was 4 rangers, 2 necros, a monk, and an ele I think... and we beat 2 island missions that I couldn't finish with the standard boring group.

I have been in lots of two necro groups and it works fine. You just coordinate with the other necro -- if he's a death guy, say "leave me a corpse for wells and you can have the rest", if he's a blood guy, say "I'll keep the monks powered if you want to nuke" or vice versa.

People also forget about curses. I always bring Shadow of Fear which is AoE and cuts enemy attacks in half and has a quick recast time. How much healing does that save?

Things definitely get better for necros towards the end game. Last night in Hell's Precipice someone was asking for a necro, and another group sent me a random invite. A necro can be a huge asset to a party... if he knows what he is doing. Guys who only spam minions are a pain in the arse and give the rest of us a bad name.

dbrad · Sep 28, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Akimb0

Anyone else noticed a dramatic increase of necros?

I think more and more casual players are finishing the game and staring new characters (including me). It's easy for good players to see the versatility of the necro after they have a little experience under their belts. Whether the minion necro is single-handedly clogging a gate with minions in Thunderhead Keep or the blood necro is going Well crazy in Sorrow's Furnace, the necro is hard to beat in terms of efficiency and versatility.

sleepy samurai · Sep 29, 2005, 12:18 AM // 00:18

It is all about trends. Soon arenanet will nerf the necro and move on.

In my case, arenanet killed my monk build so I decided to play PvP and built a necro. Soon they will change the game and I will either adapt or find a new game to play.

Arturo02 · Sep 29, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

what are you gonna do brother when the necromania is running wild on you!!!!!

LifeInfusion · Sep 29, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

I have always loved my blood necro, it died the least, finishing all missions in about half the time as my warrior and elementalist (because I am not a damager, I'm a healer). It also has better support skills and buffs.

As far as classes go...What's going to be the next up for the new trend? Time will tell.

melbo · Sep 29, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

I have always loved my blood necro, it died the least, finishing all missions in about half the time as my warrior and elementalist (because I am not a damager, I'm a healer). It also has better support skills and buffs.

As far as classes go...What's going to be the next up for the new trend? Time will tell.

Well considering the trends in Warrior -> Ele -> Ranger -> Monk and now to Necro (at least that's the way it goes from what I've seen), the only one left is Mesmer, and I REALLY can't see that becomming really popular since it takes so much knowledge/skill to play effectively. There will probably be trends in secondaries next

kawaii_bat · Sep 29, 2005, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Order of difficulty to play/popularity (from most easiest to most difficult most popular/least)

Warrior-Monk-Ranger-Elementalist-Necromancer-Mesmer

I've noticed that many ppl start with the warrior class and makes characters along this line.

If I'm right the next fad will be Mesmers. (They are 25% of the population in pre-searing already! i made one preemptively)

I'm a bit sad that the necromancer is just beggining to rise in popularity. I made a Necromancer as my first character that I liked alot but no one wanted me in their group so I deleted her T_T. And made myself a Monk.

I just *can't* play warrior. it's just too simple for me to play with. But monk requires strategy and energy management so it's very testing.

Naprius · Sep 29, 2005, 01:31 PM // 13:31

i had a nice necro too but i have deleted him coz i wasnt accepted into groups

Wolvenbear · Sep 29, 2005, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by bulldog

I play as a N/W and I find it easier to solo than with my Ele. I think it's the fact that with a blood necro every spell you cast you gain that energy back...which in turn has kept me alive in tight situations.

On a related subject, can you think of any reasons why my melee sword attack against many higher level enemies is 5-10 when my sword is 13-19? It's not on all, but I've been noticing it more often against lower level White Mantle. Should I use an axe or hammer instead of a sword in most cases?

Probably the sword has a requirement on it like Req. Swordsmanship 7 or the like. If you don't meet the requirement, you won't get max damage from the weapon. Also I've noticed that characters generally don't do as much damage with weapons that are "out of their class" anyway. When I started my first necro I thought it would be fun to use a sword in Pre. Sword damage was something like 5-10 with no req but I never got 10 damage from it. Wand damage 4-6 was hitting for 6 all the time. Go figure.

To the OP: Yeah. I guess people are finally realizing the power of support classes. Skilled players will agree: you might never notice a good necro or mesmer in your group but you'll surely notice when they're gone. (a.k.a. Why are those hexes/degens hurting so bad this time around? All we lost was a necro!)

Yukito Kunisaki · Sep 29, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

All the more reason why W/N owns

Necro skills are just tooooo good and with OR without soul reaping, you can put together quite a dangerous battle system, though as a necro primary, I'd always get at least 9 soul reaping due to the ability to spell spam...

Divine Elemental · Sep 29, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

IWAY?
Orders / Tainted Necs

Yes

although Yukito
the old Sissy Ka did use what u used as weaken rmor / rigor

Sep 28, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#1
Akimb0 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Rt/N	Sudden Number Of necros? Anyone else noticed a dramatic increase of necros?

Sep 28, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25	#2
sandstorm87 Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands	yeah i was once in a place with like 30 people and like 15 of them were necro's and also monks have increased i noticed the warriors and elementalists are decreased i think and the mesmers and ranger are sort of normal

Sep 28, 2005, 01:30 PM // 13:30	#3
Charcoal Ann Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a World of BADGERS! Guild: Eternal Flame Brotherhood	well i have recently recreated my necro (necro was my first char). i did fort ranik last night and we had 3 necros and 1 monk. however i think we constituted the entire necromancer population of the district. maybe only necromancers know the usefulness of necromancers? at least early on. i never thought i'd see the day that a group would have no warrior. i see i was mistaken.

Sep 28, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#4
Akimb0 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Rt/N	Well I've been trying to do Sanctum Cay for a while now, and I see many more Necros ( Usally N/R ) and Mesmers than I did before. I think the whole order of the vampire / barbs thing is being realised, as in my opinion Necromancers are the most versatile Class.

Sep 28, 2005, 01:48 PM // 13:48	#5
Gustav Gloomp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia	i did a gvg battle against 5 necros, 1 ranger and 2 monks... theyre really hard to beat.

Sep 28, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51	#6
Charcoal Ann Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a World of BADGERS! Guild: Eternal Flame Brotherhood	Necromancers are described as the most balanced and all round good class in the Prima guide. Necromancer primary basically works with any secondary. (however it also says that necros are most capable of soloing...) if you have played with a minionmancer in SF you will see the awsome power that they can have. if you have played with a Curses/Blood Necro in PvP you will see the awsome power that they can have. Necromancers don't really have any redundant attributes. maybe people are finally noticing this...

Sep 28, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49	#7
melbo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York Profession: E/Mo	I noticed that too...which kinda sucks for me because I was going to make a Necro once my second character beats the game (and it'll be harder to find groups if there's more necros)...then again hopefully these people will be proving how good necros are and necros will gain more respect by the time I get my character out there. I'm totally going to have a minions/blood/healing N/Mo

Sep 28, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#8
bulldog Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: The Brothers United Profession: N/W	I play as a N/W and I find it easier to solo than with my Ele. I think it's the fact that with a blood necro every spell you cast you gain that energy back...which in turn has kept me alive in tight situations. On a related subject, can you think of any reasons why my melee sword attack against many higher level enemies is 5-10 when my sword is 13-19? It's not on all, but I've been noticing it more often against lower level White Mantle. Should I use an axe or hammer instead of a sword in most cases?

Sep 28, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#9
Akimb0 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Rt/N	To Above: They have higher level armour, reducing the damage you do. GW is about using skills to increase the damage you do. As for my N/Mo, At the moment I have 9 in soul reaping, take two minions from one corpse for 25 energy. Now in the time it takes for those minions to die ( theyre storing 18 energy for me ) I've regenerated over 10 energy. 10+18=28. I gain energy, which can be annoying because I cant spend it fast enough and sometimes end up wasting soul reaping bonus'. Its hard to find a group right now because of the number of necros

Sep 28, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#10
eddycurrents Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Dark Angel of Rising Chaos Profession: W/N	It's probably because they are twinked second chars. They finished the game with the standard W/Mo and now they want to try something radically different. Necros complain all the time about not getting groups, but I haven't had much trouble. The groups that don't want me are too stupid to know what necros do, so I don't care about them. "LFG 4 tanks 2 healing monks 2 echo nukers, no one else need apply" Boring! I've had the most fun with unusual groups. One was 4 rangers, 2 necros, a monk, and an ele I think... and we beat 2 island missions that I couldn't finish with the standard boring group. I have been in lots of two necro groups and it works fine. You just coordinate with the other necro -- if he's a death guy, say "leave me a corpse for wells and you can have the rest", if he's a blood guy, say "I'll keep the monks powered if you want to nuke" or vice versa. People also forget about curses. I always bring Shadow of Fear which is AoE and cuts enemy attacks in half and has a quick recast time. How much healing does that save? Things definitely get better for necros towards the end game. Last night in Hell's Precipice someone was asking for a necro, and another group sent me a random invite. A necro can be a huge asset to a party... if he knows what he is doing. Guys who only spam minions are a pain in the arse and give the rest of us a bad name.

Sep 29, 2005, 12:18 AM // 00:18	#12
sleepy samurai Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	It is all about trends. Soon arenanet will nerf the necro and move on. In my case, arenanet killed my monk build so I decided to play PvP and built a necro. Soon they will change the game and I will either adapt or find a new game to play.

Sep 29, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#13
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	what are you gonna do brother when the necromania is running wild on you!!!!!

Sep 29, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25	#14
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	I have always loved my blood necro, it died the least, finishing all missions in about half the time as my warrior and elementalist (because I am not a damager, I'm a healer). It also has better support skills and buffs. As far as classes go...What's going to be the next up for the new trend? Time will tell.

Sep 29, 2005, 01:27 PM // 13:27	#16
kawaii_bat Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada, Gatineau Guild: None Profession: Mo/R	Order of difficulty to play/popularity (from most easiest to most difficult most popular/least) Warrior-Monk-Ranger-Elementalist-Necromancer-Mesmer I've noticed that many ppl start with the warrior class and makes characters along this line. If I'm right the next fad will be Mesmers. (They are 25% of the population in pre-searing already! i made one preemptively) I'm a bit sad that the necromancer is just beggining to rise in popularity. I made a Necromancer as my first character that I liked alot but no one wanted me in their group so I deleted her T_T. And made myself a Monk. I just can't play warrior. it's just too simple for me to play with. But monk requires strategy and energy management so it's very testing.

Sep 29, 2005, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#17
Naprius Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: mtricht Guild: Limburgse Jagers Profession: W/Mo	i had a nice necro too but i have deleted him coz i wasnt accepted into groups

Sep 29, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36	#19
Yukito Kunisaki Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Profession: W/N	All the more reason why W/N owns Necro skills are just tooooo good and with OR without soul reaping, you can put together quite a dangerous battle system, though as a necro primary, I'd always get at least 9 soul reaping due to the ability to spell spam...

Sep 29, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41	#20
Divine Elemental Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Your House Guild: I Used To Own [ IUTO ]	IWAY? Orders / Tainted Necs Yes although Yukito the old Sissy Ka did use what u used as weaken rmor / rigor