Wherefore art thou, Uber PvP Guild?!?! - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

entropy · Sep 10, 2005, 03:08 PM // 15:08

The thing is most good people are arrogant a perfect example is what happened to the u.s. basketball team in the olympics. They didn't even make it to the final round i believe. The people were all all-stars but they just did not work well with each other.

Warskull · Sep 10, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

I also found one of the problems is what guilds people try to join. You regularly see people running around asking to join a PvP guild. However they say they will only join top 200 or 100 guild or they have to be an officer. Too many people fail to see if it is the "uber" PvP guild why do they need you? They are already "uber." The attitude of a lot of players who want a PvP guild is rather ridiculous. As a result there is a large recruiting gap. You have top guilds who seek out top players to occasionally fill their ranks. Then you have newbie guilds recruiting anyone they can get. The guilds in the middle tend to sparingly recruit because they don't want to deal with all the people who complain about their guild rating upon joining and then promptly quit.

People fail to realize there are a lot of good players without rank 3 and outside the top guilds.

Maagus · Sep 11, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Running huge PvP oriented guild is hard. It is much more easier (when focused on PvP) to be in a guild with 10-12 active members. You know each other, you are used to everyone??s style of playing, it is much more easier to coordinate.

Shadow Devil · Sep 12, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

I also think Anet doesn't put much effort in helping putting guild together. When you want to join a guild, you either have to run around in the game, asking ppl if you could join theirs, or go to an independant fan-site looking a guild.
The guild list in this web-site isn't all that helpfull unless you either already have the name of the guild you are interested in joining or have a lot of spare time on your hands and are really bored. But most of the guilds on that list have already burned out. And most of them are american, so if you do not play on american times, you're pretty much wasting your time checking that list out.

Most guilds are just one of those small guilds with 10-20 members where the members are in the guild just for the sake of being in a guild. Every player with a few plat coins can create a guild and invite members. A lot of ppl with no leader skills create a guild, thinking of getting bigger but has no ideas on how to archieve that goal, thus remaining small, archieving nothing, with some active members that find random teams in Tomb and Pve and go to competition arena's. So even as the guild itself is in-active, some of the members still are.

It is impossible to see of that cool cape and guild tag behind that skilled player you teamed up with is either just for show or really means something. And there is always the chanse that its a neighberhood friends exclusive group.

All Anet does is creating a guild ladder that has guild name and tag on it. And that ladder is full of people that dont have the same playing time and time zone as you, exclusive groups and other certain requirements (language, religion, rank ect.) you need to join and have a good time.
Normal players need a little help getting into a good guild, a quick way to filter out all those useless, inactive guilds and find the perfect guild for you. Than there will be a uber guild for all the types of people.

OverlordTyrael · Sep 13, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Raiddinn Beatdropper

Xen of Onslaught is one such guild.

They/we can field 3 teams at the same time half the time.

A lot of them/us, myself included, have over 400 skills and pretty much all the unlocks unlocked, 100k+ faction, rank 1-7ish, yada yada.

The reason most guilds arent like this though, probably has to do with logistics, when you have 4 guilds swapping people can be a pain, most of us changed guilds something like 30 times during the PVPX without doing any smurfing, we just had to change that often due to people logging on and off the people had to switch to other subguilds because thats where the people were that were closest to making the next full team.

Also, when there are 100 people in a guild, say 25% of which are online in a normal week day in prime time, thats 25 people, and most of the time they would all prefer to GVG, which means you have to start doing GVG rotations, and a lot of people end up standing around doing nothing for a while, either that or sacrificing and going to HOH.

Raiddinn Beatdropper
Tsunamii Starshine
Penney Belladonna
Worthless Player

Didn't XoO fragment and split up? With BR, we're really happy with what we got. We normally have enough to field one PvP team in HoH all the time, and that team wins often

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Divine Elemental · Sep 13, 2005, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by OverlordTyrael

Didn't XoO fragment and split up? With BR, we're really happy with what we got. We normally have enough to field one PvP team in HoH all the time, and that team wins often

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No they didnt

only 1/5 of XoO

and i swear i havent tombs wit u yet OverLord ^_____^ ur mostly offline even on weekends :'(

OverlordTyrael · Sep 13, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Yeah, I don't tombs much, though I play comp arenas as much as possible and team arenas all the time. I'm usually on for 1 hr on weekends and right after school on weekdays (pacific time zones) and I'm basically just trying to finish getting everything unlocked now. The new update makes getting a faction in random arenas a breeze, so I've basically just been playing smiter in randoms for the past week or so. I don't think I've tombed with you either. The reason for this is probably because it takes so damned long to get an HoH group together, or by the time I get on, and group is already in there. Would like to play together with ya sometime though

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d4nowar · Sep 13, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

They are called Sissy Boys and War Machine.

Sissy Boys, Thundercats, Bravo Squad - all basically just sB.

War Machine, War machine pride, War machine force - all War Machine.

PWN/OwN has had two Tombs groups going at the same time, but we like to have the 8 best players at the time playing in Tombs or GvG.

OverlordTyrael · Sep 14, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11

I didn't know Thundercats was part of sB, but now that I think about it, I'm not surprised either. I just don't keep track of that kind of stuff. I knew Bravo Squad was the same as Sissy Boys though. Are there any top 30 European only guilds?

Rieselle · Sep 14, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Oh, ok. So regarding sB and other such big/famous-ish guilds, how do people get into them? I'd have thought they'd get a lot of people asking to join, and be fairly selective.

War Machine is all-korean? Or am I mistaken?

Knight of Eternal Darknes · Sep 14, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27

War Machine is still around they're up in the rankings now, seems like they've always been consistent

secretsmg · Sep 14, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

thundercats is not a part of sB. They have a guild where they smurf together called thunder boys.

Divine Elemental · Sep 15, 2005, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Rieselle

Oh, ok. So regarding sB and other such big/famous-ish guilds, how do people get into them? I'd have thought they'd get a lot of people asking to join, and be fairly selective.

War Machine is all-korean? Or am I mistaken?

Skill wise
i have a friend in sB who is rank 3-4 ^_^
its skill not rank

KuTeBaka · Sep 15, 2005, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by secretsmg

thundercats is not a part of sB. They have a guild where they smurf together called thunder boys.

are you sure? They always seem to be tombing together.

-z|o- · Sep 15, 2005, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by KuTeBaka

are you sure? They always seem to be tombing together.

Sectretsmg is correct.

Rieselle · Sep 15, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Divine Elemental

Skill wise
i have a friend in sB who is rank 3-4 ^_^
its skill not rank

But let's pretend I have the skillz. I dont see any way for them to notice me, nor I to contact them. I've never seen any of those people in the game, or even if I did, I probably wouldnt have spotted their guild tag so easily.

I guess it's a problem that GW has, but how do you "members of the pvp community" do it? Do you like, all hang out in international Tombs district 4 or some other secret club that noobs like me arent told about? :P

-z|o- · Sep 15, 2005, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rieselle

Do you like, all hang out in international Tombs district 4 or some other secret club that noobs like me arent told about? :P

You are right on the money with international districts.

Also irc channels and ventrilo.

romO · Sep 19, 2005, 02:57 AM // 02:57

yeah XoO is nuts when it comes to getting pvp and gvg groups together. if you want mass pvp talk to them ^^. like was said, they arent the best guild (we flawlessed them in gvg last night =P but i must say they arent bad and you would do much good developing your skills with a guild like that.

Divine Elemental · Sep 19, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by -z|o-

You are right on the money with international districts.

Also irc channels and ventrilo.

pretty much
i keep track of my friends within friends list im very sure zlo knows who i was talking about
and i cant agree more to romo

banishd · Sep 19, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

international districts suck now.

Sep 10, 2005, 03:08 PM // 15:08	#21
entropy Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: N/W	The thing is most good people are arrogant a perfect example is what happened to the u.s. basketball team in the olympics. They didn't even make it to the final round i believe. The people were all all-stars but they just did not work well with each other.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#22
Warskull Site Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [out]	I also found one of the problems is what guilds people try to join. You regularly see people running around asking to join a PvP guild. However they say they will only join top 200 or 100 guild or they have to be an officer. Too many people fail to see if it is the "uber" PvP guild why do they need you? They are already "uber." The attitude of a lot of players who want a PvP guild is rather ridiculous. As a result there is a large recruiting gap. You have top guilds who seek out top players to occasionally fill their ranks. Then you have newbie guilds recruiting anyone they can get. The guilds in the middle tend to sparingly recruit because they don't want to deal with all the people who complain about their guild rating upon joining and then promptly quit. People fail to realize there are a lot of good players without rank 3 and outside the top guilds.

Sep 11, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#23
Maagus Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Pilsner Urquell Guardians [PUG]	Running huge PvP oriented guild is hard. It is much more easier (when focused on PvP) to be in a guild with 10-12 active members. You know each other, you are used to everyone??s style of playing, it is much more easier to coordinate.

Sep 12, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43	#24
Shadow Devil Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: none	I also think Anet doesn't put much effort in helping putting guild together. When you want to join a guild, you either have to run around in the game, asking ppl if you could join theirs, or go to an independant fan-site looking a guild. The guild list in this web-site isn't all that helpfull unless you either already have the name of the guild you are interested in joining or have a lot of spare time on your hands and are really bored. But most of the guilds on that list have already burned out. And most of them are american, so if you do not play on american times, you're pretty much wasting your time checking that list out. Most guilds are just one of those small guilds with 10-20 members where the members are in the guild just for the sake of being in a guild. Every player with a few plat coins can create a guild and invite members. A lot of ppl with no leader skills create a guild, thinking of getting bigger but has no ideas on how to archieve that goal, thus remaining small, archieving nothing, with some active members that find random teams in Tomb and Pve and go to competition arena's. So even as the guild itself is in-active, some of the members still are. It is impossible to see of that cool cape and guild tag behind that skilled player you teamed up with is either just for show or really means something. And there is always the chanse that its a neighberhood friends exclusive group. All Anet does is creating a guild ladder that has guild name and tag on it. And that ladder is full of people that dont have the same playing time and time zone as you, exclusive groups and other certain requirements (language, religion, rank ect.) you need to join and have a good time. Normal players need a little help getting into a good guild, a quick way to filter out all those useless, inactive guilds and find the perfect guild for you. Than there will be a uber guild for all the types of people.

Sep 13, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37	#27
OverlordTyrael Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: #amplitudestudios Guild: Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Profession: W/Mo	Yeah, I don't tombs much, though I play comp arenas as much as possible and team arenas all the time. I'm usually on for 1 hr on weekends and right after school on weekdays (pacific time zones) and I'm basically just trying to finish getting everything unlocked now. The new update makes getting a faction in random arenas a breeze, so I've basically just been playing smiter in randoms for the past week or so. I don't think I've tombed with you either. The reason for this is probably because it takes so damned long to get an HoH group together, or by the time I get on, and group is already in there. Would like to play together with ya sometime though .

Sep 13, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09	#28
d4nowar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/	They are called Sissy Boys and War Machine. Sissy Boys, Thundercats, Bravo Squad - all basically just sB. War Machine, War machine pride, War machine force - all War Machine. PWN/OwN has had two Tombs groups going at the same time, but we like to have the 8 best players at the time playing in Tombs or GvG.

Sep 14, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11	#29
OverlordTyrael Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: #amplitudestudios Guild: Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Profession: W/Mo	I didn't know Thundercats was part of sB, but now that I think about it, I'm not surprised either. I just don't keep track of that kind of stuff. I knew Bravo Squad was the same as Sissy Boys though. Are there any top 30 European only guilds?

Sep 14, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42	#30
Rieselle Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Profession: E/Rt	Oh, ok. So regarding sB and other such big/famous-ish guilds, how do people get into them? I'd have thought they'd get a lot of people asking to join, and be fairly selective. War Machine is all-korean? Or am I mistaken?

Sep 14, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27	#31
Knight of Eternal Darknes Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cali Guild: Cerebral Assassins[Assn] Profession: W/E	War Machine is still around they're up in the rankings now, seems like they've always been consistent

Sep 14, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#32
secretsmg Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: The true North Guild: In'Visus Exsilium	thundercats is not a part of sB. They have a guild where they smurf together called thunder boys.

Sep 19, 2005, 02:57 AM // 02:57	#38
romO Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago Guild: Idiot Savants [iQ] Profession: Mo/	yeah XoO is nuts when it comes to getting pvp and gvg groups together. if you want mass pvp talk to them ^^. like was said, they arent the best guild (we flawlessed them in gvg last night =P but i must say they arent bad and you would do much good developing your skills with a guild like that.

Sep 19, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#40
banishd Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Ivy League [IVY] Profession: Mo/	international districts suck now.