Changing Profession - Guild Wars Forums

Axle_Fieshe · Oct 07, 2005, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Can i still change my profession if I am only LVL14 (but i am ascended).....

Kamatsu · Oct 07, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50

As long as your ascended your current level doesn't matter at all.

As long as your Ascended and can complete the relevant quest's to open up the secondaries for switching.. your free to switch.

Zenny · Oct 07, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

How can you be Lv14 and be Ascended? From experience, ascending instantly makes you Lv20 reguardless of what level you are. You did fight the 'Doppleganger' and won right?

As for changing professions. You can only change your sub-profession after you're ascended and done required quest for that sub-prof in Seeker's Passage, Heroe's Audience, or Destiny's Gorge.

There is no limit to changing your sub, and you'll keep the skills you already learned if you wanted to go back.

Savio · Oct 07, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Zenny

How can you be Lv14 and be Ascended? From experience, ascending instantly makes you Lv20 reguardless of what level you are. You did fight the 'Doppleganger' and won right?

Some people like the challenge or whatever of Ascending at low levels. And since Ascending gives you a flat xp gain of 50k now, you don't necessarily jump to lvl 20.

Axle_Fieshe · Oct 07, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by Zenny

How can you be Lv14 and be Ascended? From experience, ascending instantly makes you Lv20 reguardless of what level you are. You did fight the 'Doppleganger' and won right?

As for changing professions. You can only change your sub-profession after you're ascended and done required quest for that sub-prof in Seeker's Passage, Heroe's Audience, or Destiny's Gorge.

There is no limit to changing your sub, and you'll keep the skills you already learned if you wanted to go back.

i am experienced with ascension, I have done it 3 times before. And like Savio said you just get 50,000 experience no matter wat.

Zenny · Oct 07, 2005, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I've ascended 5 times back before the change, sure didn't help me

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Originally Posted by Savio

Some people like the challenge or whatever of Ascending at low levels. And since Ascending gives you a flat xp gain of 50k now, you don't necessarily jump to lvl 20.

Oh ya, I know people love the challenge. I didn't think they removed the instant to Lv20, just added 50,000 as a bonus. Any reason to replacing it with the 50,000 exp because I don't understand it?

Axle_Fieshe · Oct 07, 2005, 06:43 AM // 06:43

probly just to stop a lot of ppl from rushing the game. didn't affect me tho, i just got a farmer to help me and i am level 17 now

Kamatsu · Oct 07, 2005, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Zenny

Any reason to replacing it with the 50,000 exp because I don't understand it?

I believe because there were quite a number of people getting level 1-3 chaarcters rushed to the desert and ascention to get an instant level up to level 20. I don't believe they had ever intended for that particular event to happen.. As to whether or not this was abusive or was abused or whatnot.. *shrugs* don't ask me as I honestly don't know.

Caelus The Fallen · Oct 07, 2005, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Also, people who ascended at lvl20 felt that they weren't getting any reward from it previously, whereas the 50,000XP is worth a few skil points to them.

coolsti · Oct 07, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Last night while forming a group to help a friend through Thirsty River mission, there was a player with a level 5 Ranger looking, no begging, to become a member of a group to do the mission.

I don't think anyone wanted him in their group, because of his low level. He sounded quite desperate. At any rate, we wouldn't take him.

LordMahal · Oct 07, 2005, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Now thats why low level people have such a bad opinion of higher level persons. Then when that person reaches 20 they snub all the lower level people the way you did them. Regardless of level, I have found all players to be productive in someway... even as shields. You have to give these lower lvl guys a chance, you might be shocked at the results. Furthermore, helping out a bit doesnt cost you anything. I cant count the times Ive been in a group of 6 or 8, and half the group left, and we still did the mission. So whats the difference if you have half a group or a full group with one lower level person?

coolsti · Oct 07, 2005, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Sorry, but this is the way I wish to play, and I really don't care if others feel this is unfair or not. I don't believe in running, and I don't wish to play the game in teams which have party members who have been run. The fact that this player was looking to join the mission as level 5 is a true indication that the character was run to Thirsty River, or at least was run through a lot of the game, or at the very least has skipped over a lot of the game. Apparently this view is shared by many others, at least all the others in the party I was in last night at Thirsty River.

This has nothing to do with any kind of snobbery because of my character being at such a higher level. Not at all! I just don't like people who get run. I have great respect for low level characters, but only if they are willing to work to reach a higher level. And I don't consider it work if one gets run to the doppelganger and gains a high level because of the 50000 XP for that one quest. If this person wants to run through the game and skip all the pre-desert stuff, that's fine with me, but I don't feel obligated to have him in my party.

But other than that, it is simply not in my interest to enter a difficult mission like Thirsty River with someone who is at such a low level. I would rather take a henchy.

Axle_Fieshe · Oct 07, 2005, 10:59 AM // 10:59

i once had a lvl 7 in my group and he died less than any other player in the group xD but then we all lost on one of the last groups

LordMahal · Oct 07, 2005, 11:40 AM // 11:40

"I have great respect for low level characters, but only if they are willing to work to reach a higher level."

Didnt anybody ever tell you everything you say after the "but" contradicts everything before it? The statement I made was not directed at any one person. I said that only to bring up a point. At some point everybody needs help in this game. If we all keep this attitude of, Im not helping cause you are low level, or because you were ran here, how would any of us get anywhere? NEVER forget, we were all once "noobs", and needed help and maybe even a runner at one point. And that mission, thirsty river, is overrated. The last 6 or 7 missions in the game are the easiest. By the way, we are way off topic here, and thats mostly my fault...

coolsti · Oct 07, 2005, 11:56 AM // 11:56

Ok, Lord Mahal, let me say it really clearly so you can understand it:

I am not helping any low level player who obviously has been run to where they currently are in the game.

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Originally Posted by LordMahal

At some point everybody needs help in this game. If we all keep this attitude of, Im not helping cause you are low level, or because you were ran here, how would any of us get anywhere?

I would never refuse to help anyone because they were low level. I just don't feel like helping this guy out because he was obviously run to the desert. If he finds he can't get any help "because he was ran here" then he has the option to map back to the start of the game and develop his character in the lower levels.

And I also have the right to choose who I wish to team with for a quest or a mission, and characters that are 10 levels or more below me are not on the list, but neither are rushers, leavers or anyone arrogant, egostic and unfriendly.

LordMahal · Oct 07, 2005, 01:35 PM // 13:35

OMG, we are going into a fight about peoples rights.... What is happening in this world. Next thing you will bring up is abortion or religion... geez... Was only making a point and suddenly I am violating your constitutional rights. I think you need a time out. Nobody was suggesting that you MUST do anything. I was only hoping that by helping others the playing environment would improve...And an "I just" is the same as "but". I would help, but (I just), dont like lower level people. See.

Savio · Oct 07, 2005, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by LordMahal

OMG, we are going into a fight about peoples rights.... What is happening in this world. Next thing you will bring up is abortion or religion... geez... Was only making a point and suddenly I am violating your constitutional rights. I think you need a time out. Nobody was suggesting that you MUST do anything. I was only hoping that by helping others the playing environment would improve...And an "I just" is the same as "but". I would help, but (I just), dont like lower level people. See.

Sigh...you don't understand at all, do you? This isn't about some new fresh-from-Pre-Searing lvl 5 newbie, this is about some lvl 5 who was deliberately run to Thirsty and was begging for people to take him on the quest. Levels aren't an absolute sign of competency or skill rating; to get a character past Ascension at a low level takes some skill, and that player was clearly not skilled if he had to beg for a team. coolsti is fine with helping those that just came out of the Academy, just not those with second or third characters who get rushed and then expect to be helped.

Axle, just checking, did you change your secondary? I wouldn't think a low level affected anything, but just making sure.

coolsti · Oct 07, 2005, 01:45 PM // 13:45

No, we aren't getting into a fight. I hate fights. Did you notice the smilely at the end of my previous post

LordMahal · Oct 07, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06

I dont smile...

Say, have you ever been to Germany...? Ive never been to Denmark, is the food good there? (now we are totally off the topic)

Oct 07, 2005, 02:31 AM // 02:31	#1
Axle_Fieshe Banned Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Changing Profession Can i still change my profession if I am only LVL14 (but i am ascended).....

Oct 07, 2005, 09:59 AM // 09:59	#11
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	Now thats why low level people have such a bad opinion of higher level persons. Then when that person reaches 20 they snub all the lower level people the way you did them. Regardless of level, I have found all players to be productive in someway... even as shields. You have to give these lower lvl guys a chance, you might be shocked at the results. Furthermore, helping out a bit doesnt cost you anything. I cant count the times Ive been in a group of 6 or 8, and half the group left, and we still did the mission. So whats the difference if you have half a group or a full group with one lower level person? Last edited by LordMahal; Oct 07, 2005 at 11:37 AM // 11:37..

Oct 07, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50	#2
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	As long as your ascended your current level doesn't matter at all. As long as your Ascended and can complete the relevant quest's to open up the secondaries for switching.. your free to switch.

Oct 07, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56	#3
Zenny Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Moa Birds [MB] Profession: Mo/N	How can you be Lv14 and be Ascended? From experience, ascending instantly makes you Lv20 reguardless of what level you are. You did fight the 'Doppleganger' and won right? As for changing professions. You can only change your sub-profession after you're ascended and done required quest for that sub-prof in Seeker's Passage, Heroe's Audience, or Destiny's Gorge. There is no limit to changing your sub, and you'll keep the skills you already learned if you wanted to go back.

Oct 07, 2005, 06:43 AM // 06:43	#7
Axle_Fieshe Banned Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/W	probly just to stop a lot of ppl from rushing the game. didn't affect me tho, i just got a farmer to help me and i am level 17 now

Oct 07, 2005, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#9
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	Also, people who ascended at lvl20 felt that they weren't getting any reward from it previously, whereas the 50,000XP is worth a few skil points to them.

Oct 07, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59	#10
coolsti Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denmark	Last night while forming a group to help a friend through Thirsty River mission, there was a player with a level 5 Ranger looking, no begging, to become a member of a group to do the mission. I don't think anyone wanted him in their group, because of his low level. He sounded quite desperate. At any rate, we wouldn't take him.

Oct 07, 2005, 10:59 AM // 10:59	#12
coolsti Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denmark	Sorry, but this is the way I wish to play, and I really don't care if others feel this is unfair or not. I don't believe in running, and I don't wish to play the game in teams which have party members who have been run. The fact that this player was looking to join the mission as level 5 is a true indication that the character was run to Thirsty River, or at least was run through a lot of the game, or at the very least has skipped over a lot of the game. Apparently this view is shared by many others, at least all the others in the party I was in last night at Thirsty River. This has nothing to do with any kind of snobbery because of my character being at such a higher level. Not at all! I just don't like people who get run. I have great respect for low level characters, but only if they are willing to work to reach a higher level. And I don't consider it work if one gets run to the doppelganger and gains a high level because of the 50000 XP for that one quest. If this person wants to run through the game and skip all the pre-desert stuff, that's fine with me, but I don't feel obligated to have him in my party. But other than that, it is simply not in my interest to enter a difficult mission like Thirsty River with someone who is at such a low level. I would rather take a henchy.

Oct 07, 2005, 11:40 AM // 11:40	#14
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	"I have great respect for low level characters, but only if they are willing to work to reach a higher level." Didnt anybody ever tell you everything you say after the "but" contradicts everything before it? The statement I made was not directed at any one person. I said that only to bring up a point. At some point everybody needs help in this game. If we all keep this attitude of, Im not helping cause you are low level, or because you were ran here, how would any of us get anywhere? NEVER forget, we were all once "noobs", and needed help and maybe even a runner at one point. And that mission, thirsty river, is overrated. The last 6 or 7 missions in the game are the easiest. By the way, we are way off topic here, and thats mostly my fault...

Oct 07, 2005, 01:35 PM // 13:35	#16
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	OMG, we are going into a fight about peoples rights.... What is happening in this world. Next thing you will bring up is abortion or religion... geez... Was only making a point and suddenly I am violating your constitutional rights. I think you need a time out. Nobody was suggesting that you MUST do anything. I was only hoping that by helping others the playing environment would improve...And an "I just" is the same as "but". I would help, but (I just), dont like lower level people. See.

Oct 07, 2005, 01:45 PM // 13:45	#18
coolsti Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denmark	No, we aren't getting into a fight. I hate fights. Did you notice the smilely at the end of my previous post

Oct 07, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06	#19
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	I dont smile... Say, have you ever been to Germany...? Ive never been to Denmark, is the food good there? (now we are totally off the topic)