How do I properly extract this Superior Rune of Vigor? - Guild Wars Forums

st3ady · Nov 07, 2005, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Hey there,

I realize this is probably a n00b question but I have gotten this far without a clear idea on how to properly extract runes. Sometimes I have tried and gotten nothing but wooden planks, and that sucks! I asked around and people said that you have a greater chance when America has favor, and you find out by going to the Temple of Ages. But there still is a chance you might get materials.
I found this beauty today, I have been planning on buying one but this is just great! I just hope I don't mess up the extraction.

So what should I use on this? Expert Salvage kit? should I buy a superior salvage kit?

Any help is much appreciated, thanks!

unienaule · Nov 07, 2005, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Just Expert Salvage. If you do that you will get runes every time out of blue/purple/gold armor. You can't get runes out of white armor.

Avari Zi · Nov 07, 2005, 10:47 AM // 10:47

You use an Expert Salvage Kit to extract runes, anything less and you will get those "wooden planks". Congrats on the Superior Vigor.

Savio · Nov 07, 2005, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Superior Salvage Kits are the same as Expert Salvage Kits, except Superiors have more uses. So yeah, an Expert Salvage will work just fine.

RTSFirebat · Nov 07, 2005, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by unienaule

Just Expert Salvage. If you do that you will get runes every time out of blue/purple/gold armor. You can't get runes out of white armor.

Not every single time... there is still a very minor chance that you still get wood or something and not the rune. But its only a minor chance. Happens even when making use of a Expert Salvage Kit.

st3ady · Nov 07, 2005, 11:02 AM // 11:02

thank you guys so much for the quick reply!
thanks for clearing up the difference between the superior and expert salvage kits!

Savio · Nov 07, 2005, 11:09 AM // 11:09

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Not every single time... there is still a very minor chance that you still get wood or something and not the rune. But its only a minor chance. Happens even when making use of a Expert Salvage Kit.

I could've sworn an update a few months back changed that. You get the rune upgrade always from an enemy rune, but not always from your equipped armor.

Found it (Update ??? Wednesday, June 15):

Quote:

Improved expert salvage kits so that they always successfully salvage a rune from monster-dropped armor that contains a rune. There is still a chance of destroying a rune when using a salvage kit to try to retrieve it from your own armor.

I've just never seen it myself, even though I salvaged runes for months before I realized minor runes still in armors sell for more at the merchant.

Former Ruling · Nov 07, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Thats weird..Cuase I to have gotten Crafting materials from a rune filled enemy armor (it was only a minor though)...and its been way after June, I only started playing a few weeks ago.

I suppose they may have nerfed their own fix?

Carinae · Nov 07, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Savio

I could've sworn an update a few months back changed that. You get the rune upgrade always from an enemy rune, but not always from your equipped armor.

Found it (Update ??? Wednesday, June 15):

I've just never seen it myself, even though I salvaged runes for months before I realized minor runes still in armors sell for more at the merchant.

Well, it's still bugged, cause I lost a Sup Fire yesterday while Exp Salvaging it.

Xion · Nov 07, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

it happens, i've lost a few major vigors and absorbs, as well as a few superior runes that are worth abit at the trader

wiz12268 · Nov 07, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12

If you expert salvage BEFORE identifying, I think it increases your chances, if not guarantess success. I have NEVER lost a rune when I salvaged first, and ided second.

I have lost some, but I don't ID anymore before salvaging. So not sure if it ws fixed, or depends on the order in which you do it.

FFF_WarRaven · Nov 07, 2005, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Savio

Superior Salvage Kits are the same as Expert Salvage Kits, except Superiors have more uses. So yeah, an Expert Salvage will work just fine.

True, but your paying an extra 400 for the convience of 1 slot where as you can buy 5 and get 25 more for the same price, most of my travels id just buy a few expert, rather than spend the 2k on a super kit, 400 a pop extra can addup a lot.

Plus depending on where you picked up certain items it's not worth using an expert on certain items to get materials, like certain armors will always turn to tanned hide or iron ingots, and an expert kit will only give you the same amount or 1 extra to the pile.

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Tactical-Dillusions · Nov 07, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

And you never get wood planks from armours.
It's always tanned hide, bolts of cloth, linen, silk, leather, fur, steel, iron or a rune.
Collars, vestments and robes are armours too.

Young Hero · Nov 08, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by wiz12268

If you expert salvage BEFORE identifying, I think it increases your chances, if not guarantess success. I have NEVER lost a rune when I salvaged first, and ided second.

I have lost some, but I don't ID anymore before salvaging. So not sure if it ws fixed, or depends on the order in which you do it.

Wish I would have read this earlier.Lost two superior Vigors after identifing and expert salvaging.
Instead of a Superior I got Major's, both times

This almost caused me to "give up the game"

unienaule · Nov 08, 2005, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Ummmm, well, it's happened before in games that I've had amazing luck and people hated me because of it, but.... I gotta say... I think when you lose runes you must have accidentally used regular salvage. I have never lost a rune, and I attribute this to never having a regular salvage kit, so there is no possible way I can accidentally regular salvage it.

Oh, and just because an armor is gold, it doesnt mean it is a superior rune. Armors will never salvage to a lower quality of rune once you identify them.

Lasareth · Nov 08, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50

I'll run through the quick truths of runes and enemy armor salvaging:

-After one of the past updates, you will always get the rune through expert salvage. This is always the case, 100% of the time, whether the object is unIDed or not.
-The rune, if follows by the general trend of unidentified items, is predetermined before identifying.
-Identification has nothing to do with salvaging, or which rune you get. It simply (and surprisingly enough) identifies your rune.

Often, identifying before salvaging is a good thing. Sometimes, you'll end up with a 50g rune on a 460g gold armor, in which case selling the armor is higher profit.

Arturo02 · Nov 09, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

wow nice drop!

Former Ruling · Nov 09, 2005, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

I'll run through the quick truths of runes and enemy armor salvaging:

-After one of the past updates, you will always get the rune through expert salvage. This is always the case, 100% of the time, whether the object is unIDed or not.
-The rune, if follows by the general trend of unidentified items, is predetermined before identifying.
-Identification has nothing to do with salvaging, or which rune you get. It simply (and surprisingly enough) identifies your rune.

Often, identifying before salvaging is a good thing. Sometimes, you'll end up with a 50g rune on a 460g gold armor, in which case selling the armor is higher profit.

Other Truths:
1) I haven't bought a normal salvage kit since Yak's bend.

2) I HAVE LOST RUNES - and got crafting material instead.

And no I'm not thinking about some Before June time (before the update quoted) because I didn't even play this game in June - I got the game alittle over a month ago.

My thoughts is that they Nerfed their own update. It isn't uncommon or strange.

Lasareth · Nov 09, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35

You still can get crafting materials from expert salvaging player armor... In all my time and all my salvages (more than 30, at least, since the update) I still have yet to unsucessfully remove a rune from an enemy armor with an expert salvage kit.

nightrunner · Nov 09, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39

If you don't know how to salvage runes and you've already got a Sup Vigor, then you're REALLY lucky O_o

I played ~500 hours before I found my first Sup. Absorb, and I was farming for them on purpose

Nov 07, 2005, 10:35 AM // 10:35	#1
st3ady Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/E	How do I properly extract this Superior Rune of Vigor? Hey there, I realize this is probably a n00b question but I have gotten this far without a clear idea on how to properly extract runes. Sometimes I have tried and gotten nothing but wooden planks, and that sucks! I asked around and people said that you have a greater chance when America has favor, and you find out by going to the Temple of Ages. But there still is a chance you might get materials. I found this beauty today, I have been planning on buying one but this is just great! I just hope I don't mess up the extraction. So what should I use on this? Expert Salvage kit? should I buy a superior salvage kit? Any help is much appreciated, thanks!

Nov 07, 2005, 10:47 AM // 10:47	#2
unienaule I dunt even get "Retired" Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Just Expert Salvage. If you do that you will get runes every time out of blue/purple/gold armor. You can't get runes out of white armor.

Nov 07, 2005, 10:47 AM // 10:47	#3
Avari Zi Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2005	You use an Expert Salvage Kit to extract runes, anything less and you will get those "wooden planks". Congrats on the Superior Vigor.

Nov 07, 2005, 10:49 AM // 10:49	#4
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Superior Salvage Kits are the same as Expert Salvage Kits, except Superiors have more uses. So yeah, an Expert Salvage will work just fine.

Nov 07, 2005, 11:02 AM // 11:02	#6
st3ady Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/E	thank you guys so much for the quick reply! thanks for clearing up the difference between the superior and expert salvage kits!

Nov 07, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14	#8
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Thats weird..Cuase I to have gotten Crafting materials from a rune filled enemy armor (it was only a minor though)...and its been way after June, I only started playing a few weeks ago. I suppose they may have nerfed their own fix?

Nov 07, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#10
Xion Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Goda Vos Profession: R/Me	it happens, i've lost a few major vigors and absorbs, as well as a few superior runes that are worth abit at the trader

Nov 07, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#11
wiz12268 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Guild: Men In Black	If you expert salvage BEFORE identifying, I think it increases your chances, if not guarantess success. I have NEVER lost a rune when I salvaged first, and ided second. I have lost some, but I don't ID anymore before salvaging. So not sure if it ws fixed, or depends on the order in which you do it.

Nov 07, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09	#13
Tactical-Dillusions Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grimsby, UK Profession: R/	And you never get wood planks from armours. It's always tanned hide, bolts of cloth, linen, silk, leather, fur, steel, iron or a rune. Collars, vestments and robes are armours too.

Nov 08, 2005, 11:48 PM // 23:48	#15
unienaule I dunt even get "Retired" Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Ummmm, well, it's happened before in games that I've had amazing luck and people hated me because of it, but.... I gotta say... I think when you lose runes you must have accidentally used regular salvage. I have never lost a rune, and I attribute this to never having a regular salvage kit, so there is no possible way I can accidentally regular salvage it. Oh, and just because an armor is gold, it doesnt mean it is a superior rune. Armors will never salvage to a lower quality of rune once you identify them.

Nov 08, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#16
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	I'll run through the quick truths of runes and enemy armor salvaging: -After one of the past updates, you will always get the rune through expert salvage. This is always the case, 100% of the time, whether the object is unIDed or not. -The rune, if follows by the general trend of unidentified items, is predetermined before identifying. -Identification has nothing to do with salvaging, or which rune you get. It simply (and surprisingly enough) identifies your rune. Often, identifying before salvaging is a good thing. Sometimes, you'll end up with a 50g rune on a 460g gold armor, in which case selling the armor is higher profit.

Nov 09, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02	#17
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	wow nice drop!

Nov 09, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35	#19
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	You still can get crafting materials from expert salvaging player armor... In all my time and all my salvages (more than 30, at least, since the update) I still have yet to unsucessfully remove a rune from an enemy armor with an expert salvage kit.

Nov 09, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39	#20
nightrunner Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Profession: W/Mo	If you don't know how to salvage runes and you've already got a Sup Vigor, then you're REALLY lucky O_o I played ~500 hours before I found my first Sup. Absorb, and I was farming for them on purpose