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Jczech · Nov 10, 2005, 09:29 AM // 09:29

A while back, I picked up a wand off a collector for one of my characters. Nothing fancy, but effective nonetheless. I'm pretty sure a few people are familiar with this:

A couple weeks ago, I picked up another one (+5 energy always is a very nice bonus for any caster, damage is pretty much pointless), and found it had been changed to this:

Then yesterday, I picked up a third one, only to find out it had changed yet again:

I know it's probably a moot point, but I'm dumbfounded as to why it was changed. An item that nobody would ever use for attacking, and most would probably avoid alltogether, has had its combat abilities changed twice. Was 3-4 damage too "uber"? Is 10% less damage going to make any difference on such a low damage weapon? Why the hell did it need changing in the first place?

My brain just can't fathom why it was changed at all, or why it was changed again. So my question to all - it's a weak newbie wand from Ascalon, and yet it was changed. Could someone come up with an explanation?

lyra_song · Nov 10, 2005, 10:16 AM // 10:16

im guessing its "Nerf every +5 energy unconditional one handed weapon out there" month.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Nov 10, 2005, 10:52 AM // 10:52

I call it a...
keep that guy on fire for the whole duration of that hex...
the one where they start on fire everytime there hit with fire dmg...
whole group of ppl be like attacking with that wand...
oh yeah that hex with that other hex where a new condition hurts them...

TAKE THAT GLINT.

Former Ruling · Nov 10, 2005, 12:07 PM // 12:07

I think they stack all those dmg-10% on there so some people would think it stinks cuase of that - even though its the only collecter Wand I know of that has an inherent +5 energy always.

Jczech · Nov 11, 2005, 11:46 AM // 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

I call it a...
keep that guy on fire for the whole duration of that hex...
the one where they start on fire everytime there hit with fire dmg...
whole group of ppl be like attacking with that wand...
oh yeah that hex with that other hex where a new condition hurts them...

TAKE THAT GLINT.

Yeah, the only combat use I can see it having is to trigger Mark of Rodgort. But my question still remains, why were the "pointless" mods on it changed? Did A.Net think changing the "pointless" mods would make it any more/less better? It's just one item I can't figure out.

Too bad I can't ask the person who changed it.

Racthoh · Nov 11, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Actually my warrior uses it, not for the purpose of triggering Mark of Rodgort but to build up adrenaline against certain foes.

Lasareth · Nov 11, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Surely the +25% against Charr must account for something

lyra_song · Nov 12, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Look at it today

Ard Wen · Nov 12, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19

Its another attempt to reduce the power of nukers

LOL

Ensign · Nov 12, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Actually all 3 of the 4-7 damage versions are still available. The collector only offers one of them per visit, you can re-zone to reset him and get the one you want.

Are there any other collectors out there that work like this? He's the only one I know of.

Peace,
-CxE

Jczech · Nov 12, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Look at it today

Sheesh, can't they just pick one and be happy with it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

Actually all 3 of the 4-7 damage versions are still available. The collector only offers one of them per visit, you can re-zone to reset him and get the one you want.

That just makes even less sense. Why would anyone take the 3rd (or 1st) 4-7 damage wand, when they can just rezone a few times and get one with slightly less damage, but better overall?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

Are there any other collectors out there that work like this? He's the only one I know of.

Peace,
-CxE

I doubt there could be many more like him, if this is really the case. Most later collectors are either armour or perfect 20/20 offhands, 15% while whatever, or bonus hp while something. A few collectors in the Kryta area have +15 -1 regen items, or bonus to a skill and some HP. Ascalon seems to be the only area with very unique (and rather weak) items. Maybe one day we'll see more dynamic collectors everywhere, where their items rotate between different mods on PvP items and some versions that are unique in name and/or image and stats.

Now I'm wondering if there are more like him as well. Time to go romping around Ascalon.

lyra_song · Nov 12, 2005, 05:57 AM // 05:57

Yes Ascalon has some of the WEIRDEST weapons in the game, imo.

Nov 10, 2005, 09:29 AM // 09:29	#1
Jczech Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/	What's the point? A while back, I picked up a wand off a collector for one of my characters. Nothing fancy, but effective nonetheless. I'm pretty sure a few people are familiar with this: A couple weeks ago, I picked up another one (+5 energy always is a very nice bonus for any caster, damage is pretty much pointless), and found it had been changed to this: Then yesterday, I picked up a third one, only to find out it had changed yet again: I know it's probably a moot point, but I'm dumbfounded as to why it was changed. An item that nobody would ever use for attacking, and most would probably avoid alltogether, has had its combat abilities changed twice. Was 3-4 damage too "uber"? Is 10% less damage going to make any difference on such a low damage weapon? Why the hell did it need changing in the first place? My brain just can't fathom why it was changed at all, or why it was changed again. So my question to all - it's a weak newbie wand from Ascalon, and yet it was changed. Could someone come up with an explanation?

Nov 12, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#10
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Actually all 3 of the 4-7 damage versions are still available. The collector only offers one of them per visit, you can re-zone to reset him and get the one you want. Are there any other collectors out there that work like this? He's the only one I know of. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Nov 10, 2005, 10:16 AM // 10:16	#2
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	im guessing its "Nerf every +5 energy unconditional one handed weapon out there" month.

Nov 10, 2005, 10:52 AM // 10:52	#3
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	I call it a... keep that guy on fire for the whole duration of that hex... the one where they start on fire everytime there hit with fire dmg... whole group of ppl be like attacking with that wand... oh yeah that hex with that other hex where a new condition hurts them... TAKE THAT GLINT.

Nov 10, 2005, 12:07 PM // 12:07	#4
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	I think they stack all those dmg-10% on there so some people would think it stinks cuase of that - even though its the only collecter Wand I know of that has an inherent +5 energy always.

Nov 11, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#6
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	Actually my warrior uses it, not for the purpose of triggering Mark of Rodgort but to build up adrenaline against certain foes.

Nov 11, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50	#7
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Surely the +25% against Charr must account for something

Nov 12, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#8
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	Look at it today

Nov 12, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19	#9
Ard Wen Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Haz Team Profession: W/Mo	Its another attempt to reduce the power of nukers LOL

Nov 12, 2005, 05:57 AM // 05:57	#12
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	Yes Ascalon has some of the WEIRDEST weapons in the game, imo.